Grow up.

[Dodgeyou]

Anyone who quits playing the game they like to play because of something that happens on this forum is childish. Mocha was mean to me on forums, boo hoo Im going to quit playing 19s... seriously, grow up.
For example. I don't care for several of you on here. You act like asses in game towards others, and act like bigger asses on here, especially when called out on how you act in game. Your arrogance shows your true childishness and ignorance. I still queue when I want to. I don't quit because you said something on here that was not to my liking. That's what an adult does. They look past the things that bother them, and continue to do what they enjoy. Get off Mocha's case, and grow up.

 

[Trialdruid]

And this is why we cant have nice things

instead of pointing fingers stop qq, have respect and make a difference yourself..
If every kid thought this way and had the same level of commitment the bracket would work

In before the whole casual twinks vs gy farming vets arguement bullshit... Just stop and start helping each other and get more players to work with

sure nice competetive games when you have 1x good game every week and 7max. In total

 

[Mocha]

The Mocha hate threads that were made towards me on my first day being Moderator again were the result of a fire that started when the EU kids came to our bracket. It was completely uncalled for and unnecessary. It was my first day back. No accounts would have been touched had hate threads not popped up. Especially this type of discussion was always welcome in PMs but never the forums.

Here's a look at where this came from:

My guildies saw them GY farm EU into inactivity as I had 6 guild members playing EU as queues died.

They came over here and I was excited. I played a game with them and Stavie and immediately was disgusted. It was nothing but calling others garbage and bitching about damage charts.

I was asked to join the GY encampment (as we had not touched the flag) and refused. Was called a "p*ssy" and afterwards was asked to join again. I denied and then was afkd out. This was how it went for the first 3 games I spent with the EU guys.

I took it all out on Stavie and assumed he was part of them. He didn't care for their gameplay either come to find out and I was wrong in assuming that he was like them.

For the next few months it was nothing but getting gy farmed by RT or TL until premade season. Things were fine with Stubs and I. We were premading together for RT.




I joined the guild so the summer pomades against RT could happen. I was asked to, and being the only unguilded / active gfd prot warrior I said I would participate so the games could happen. I understood that RT was about cooperation and formation which came from good leadership. I know how to take orders and I'm not too stubborn not to.

In a premade against ATW Pizza ordered me (FC) to go tunnel. As I did, things collapsed and we ended up losing the game. Pizza immediately said that it was his mistake in ordering me to do so and that I did the correct thing by taking orders. In Skype, Stubs had another attitude.

He called me the shittiest warrior in the bracket. Told me I was a r*tard and asked if someone told me to jump off a cliff would I still do it?

Infuriated I told him that I am here to be a team and take orders from the GM. The entire game we played horribly and were split because our offense kept pushing the wrong way and wouldn't listen. I told Stubs that unlike him I actually am wiling to take orders and play as a team.

The last premade of the summer occurred on August 4th, (21 days before I was asked to step in) and this was right as everyone was quitting due to 5.4 being scheduled to release in september. It was RT vs Underground. 19s didn't have many pugs at all at this time. Too many people were bragging about moving on from 19s. There were no premades between this time and when I became moderator and there were very, very, very few pugs. We could only participate in wpvp.



Let's talk about August when I became moderator once more:

One night I was browsing the forums (August 24th) to find a moderator's irl pictures being spread all over the site saying some very, very hateful garbage. No one was on to handle it. Immediately I reported all of the posts and had them taken care of. Stubs was pissed at me for reporting his posts and there were a few words that were said the evening of towards me.

The next day Shane asked me to moderate because the forums were way out of hand and the CoC was not being enforced. Within hours, a Mocha hate thread was created by Nicozy. I had told him to keep this talk off of the forums and that it did not have any place on Shane's forums. I linked him my inbox and told him to message me.


Here's a quote from me in response to one of the first threads:

Feel free to message me about any issues you may have. The 15-19s section forums is the place to discuss 15-19 twinking information and that alone.

Message Me

After my civil request was ignored, I had to reiterate:

Closed. If you have any issues about the staff. PM Shane or PM the staff member whom you have a problem with. These are forums used to discuss the information of twinking. We ask that you are positive and constructive in doing so. This is not my website. This is Shane's website and everyone who uses it is doing so because he is kind enough to let us.

Stop causing drama by turning this website which started for Twinking Information into one based on politics.

If you are not going to post any constructive / useful information relevant to twinking don't post.

Before you hit "Submit Reply" or "Submit Thread" ask yourself if your post is:
a) Relevant to twinking in World of Warcraft
b) Constructive in sharing information
c) Friendly in treating others

Trolling is never allowed. Don't do it.

If you are going to troll / flame / argue about topics that are not relevant to World of Warcraft Twinking, do so elsewhere.

If you cannot refrain from breaking the CoC (which has a higher goal of creating a friendly and constructive community who share a love for World of Warcraft twinking) your privileges for using Shane's website will be reduced.

All of these posts are severely off focus and completely irrelevant to ingame twinking. If you are going to attempt to cyber bully, insult, share your feelings towards me, you are free to try to do so in PMs but you should not expect a response.

If you are a troll who cannot be constructive and friendly and post information relevant to twinking you can hate me all you want, but keep it out of these forums.

Problem solved. Case closed.

Here's the quote from Shane that followed my post:

We have been uber lax about the off-topic/pointless/BS threads/posts that have been allowed on this site from Day 1. This is at an end and has been for quite awhile. The issue with our enforcement of the CoC has been summer vacation and the lack of available moderators. We are fixing that.

I know a lot of you have personal vendettas against Mocha. Grow the hell up. He is here to stay. He cares about this community and twinking in general. If you don't like it, I really don't care.

This site is here for information. Not for your trolling/insults.

End of story.

These are the events that followed:

Nicozy makes 2 more threads. I deleted both as that was the proper thing to do and is what Shane instructed me to do.

Derv makes a new thread. I tell him that there is no place for this discussion on the site, and was not banned.

Nicozy makes another thread and Shane locks it and says that any future threads about this will result in bans.

Nicozy makes another thread and is banned for 4 months by Shane because Nicozy "needed time to cool off" in the words of shane.

Vianco starts mouthing off about the ban on Nicozy which is against the CoC so I gave only a 2 day ban.

Stubs bitches me out and went through 2 warnings and 3 infractions before being banned by me for 2 weeks.

Nicozy circumvents his ban which earns him a permaban on his main account.

Stubs comes back bitching me out for Nicozy being indefinitely banned and was banned for 6 months as instructed by Shane.

Stubs circumvents his ban which earns him a permaban on his main account.

Stubs and Nicozy were unbanned when everyone else was by Silin. These members were under close watch.

Stubs bitches me out again and goes through 2 more warnings and 3 infractions before being banned by me for 2 months.

Stubs comes back bitching me out again and being hateful yet again.

This is exactly what happened, how it happened and it bothers me that people still blame moderation for taking action on their posts when they sit here taunting enforcement. It's a 100% fact that had the threads not been created in the first place, there was no reason for me to take action on anyone's account. In addition to that, the threads were never forced to be made and numerous players chose to circumvent their bans. I really did not do much moderating, in fact, a particular thread started out as a sarcastic congratulations and I merely said thank you and the thread went out of control from there on out... Without me even posting anything or doing anything to anyone's account.

I had not banned anyone for the first few days. Shane had done the banning himself. It wasn't until Stubs' 3rd infraction that I did any moderating.




Here is where I am going to hold dear to the requests of the site owner Shane and lock this thread. He doesn't want this discussion on these forums and we all need to respect that.

I have let this thread be carried on and as far as I'm concerned, the only thing being said here is that I killed the entire 19 twinking community. Pretty silly thing to say when it was before I became moderator that our bracket had nearly stopped getting pops and we had to start organizing wargames and wpvp.

Please read and reread this post several times before formulating your response to my inbox.