Goodbye to all the 24s who plan on quitting after 5.2

[R Prime]

This 20-24 animosity will go away in a few months.

Thank gawd - it's played out like Earl's burnished pally transmogs.

 

[Mialo]

inb4: mialo jumps ship back to 29s. predicted here 1st!

Why would I want to do that? It was boring... Farming even the good ones with a 29 SP.

 

[Blinka]

There will be a some that leave bracket cause they cant dominate like they have before true. I think there will be even better games in this bracket and possibly other brackets. This may influence myself and others to return to low level twinking for competitive games.

 

[M.u.R.e-]

cant really see how this will change the difference...a 24 rogue with endgame enchants vs a 24 rogue with trial enchants....the first 1 will beat the latter 80% of the time, EVEN if the trial enchanted one opens up with ambush,because the 4 stats/52 agil, 225 profs,



The only reason you see 24 locks and mages hit alot and being viable is because they have around 61 spellpower coming from enchants alone,while the trial ones are stuck with 3 intellect....is it THAT hard to grasp the concept?

I can actually see trial spriests being viable having mind blast/plague. A 150spellpower spriest hit me for 700 mindblast, i suspect best inslot 20 priests have like 170SP.

 

[Oniyui]

The only reason you see 24 locks and mages hit alot and being viable is because they have around 61 spellpower coming from enchants alone,while the trial ones are stuck with 3 intellect....is it THAT hard to grasp the concept?

I'm pretty sure everyone on this forum grasps the concept you putting on the table. The concept you seem to be missing is it's not the damage we're rejoicing about. It's hit cap. Every 20 has experienced awful times where you're getting that spriest or pally just about ready to die, they start to cast their heal-to-full in a single gcd spell, and you throw in your interrupt at them and it just whiffs, starting the fight pretty much where it was before. On my sham before I stacked spirit, largely regarded as the most useless stat, sacrificing a gooood chunk of hp and intellect to do it... I would get thunderstorms at LM where 3-4 lucky 24s would /chuckle at me because NONE of them got tossed. I'd have times protecting an fc on the roof and the enemy team sends in their 24 premade to come burst the fc down... catch 3 of them off guard and tstorm- and they just walk right through it like nothing happened. Lvl 20 mages and locks may not hit like 24s still, but now they'll be able to disable them consistently for a good amount of time with polymorph and fear. Every time a 20 misses a 24, it's like a 24 got a free trinket. I'm sure you can understand how OP the human racial is for giving them a 2 minute cd on mobility trinkets in this game, well 20s have been playing with the disadvantage where 24s are getting a free virtual trinket in just about every engagement. Now they are losing that, and more pressure from 20s will come down on them, irregardless of how much damage 24s will still do.

Also, this thread is largely about dominate mind. The ability caps at lvl 23 for 20s. It's something most 24s haven't even had to deal with. Now, it not only can be used on them, it's hit capped against them, and Izac will be coming down on alllllll of you.

 

[c[_]]

Also, this thread is largely about dominate mind. The ability caps at lvl 23 for 20s. It's something most 24s haven't even had to deal with. Now, it not only can be used on them, it's hit capped against them, and Izac will be coming down on alllllll of you.

this takes me back to the old mana burn argument. if people can't LoS, interrupt, or CC a 6month cast time, they deserve to be hit with it.

 

[iaccidentallytwink]

it's played out like Earl's burnished pally transmogs.

ahahaha

 

[Oniyui]

this takes me back to the old mana burn argument. if people can't LoS, interrupt, or CC a 6month cast time, they deserve to be hit with it.

The cast time on dom mind is also being reduced in 5.2

And yes, 24s do deserve to be hit with it. :]

 

[c[_]]

24s do deserve to be hit with it. :]

reported for troll bating. stay OT please.

 

[Oniyui]

reported for troll bating. stay OT please.

How is that troll baiting or off topic? The original post is a list of 24s that deserve to get hit with it in Izac's POV. 24s haven't been getting hit with it since 5.0 come out. They deserve to get hit with every spell in the bracket, or do exactly as mister iaccidentallytwink argues- choose and avoid it. Blizzard, by endorsing this change, is in agreement.

So get back on topic you troll. Your post NOT reported.

 

[c[_]]

How is that troll baiting or off topic? The original post is a list of 24s that deserve to get hit with it in Izac's POV. 24s haven't been getting hit with it since 5.0 come out. They deserve to get hit with every spell in the bracket, or do exactly as mister iaccidentallytwink argues- choose and avoid it. Blizzard, by endorsing this change, is in agreement.

posting something like that in this section will make tempers flare, and incite personal insults.

So get back on topic you illiterate..

like this one. reported.

 

[Oniyui]

posting something like that in this section will make tempers flare, and incite personal insults.

Personal insults against whom? There's nothing personal about it. The only people who'll get offended by a statement by that are people with way to much a sense of entitlement for paying for the game. 24s still have every spell from 21-24 that they are entitled to because they levelled from 21-24. To have a tier 1 talent choice have no effect on them at all occurs in every leveling bracket, brackets players pay to play in, garners a sense of entitlement that was never deserved. Players should be entitled to use the spells in pvp they chose to spec, and Blizzard's actions support that. The restriction for +3 levels only is still in effect in PvE.

It's nothing personal. Nobody got offended when Blizzard cracked down on addons like oqueue's original functionality. Petitioned maybe, but not offended. Nothing was taken personally when blue posts were directly attacked players looking to premade vs pugs and bots, and suggested going into rated pvp. Why would anyone take it personally that Blizzard has openly backed a change that enforces the idea that pvp will be more balanced across the board and no longer agree with players that feel entitled to faceroll players 4 levels under them?

24s are still entitled to their endgame enchants and lvl 21-24 spells. They will no longer be entitled to negate f2p's in-game decisions and strategies without using some demonstration of skilled play.

And yes, that 2nd quote was a personal attack, and why I changed it to something less offensive. You caught me though, so I guess I have to apologize. You may not have fully comprehended the thread or the arguments presented, but perhaps I went too far to call you a complete illiterate for it. However, I was troll baited into making that statement, making the new statement significantly more accurate. I'm not going to spam our good moderators with insignificant reports over it.

 

[Bieberfeverrr]

So what 20s will be boosted to 24 ? these changes confirmed?

 

[c[_]]

Personal insults against whom? There's nothing personal about it. The only people who'll get offended by a statement by that are people with way to much a sense of entitlement for paying for the game. 24s still have every spell from 21-24 that they are entitled to because they levelled from 21-24. To have a tier 1 talent choice have no effect on them at all occurs in every leveling bracket, brackets players pay to play in, garners a sense of entitlement that was never deserved. Players should be entitled to use the spells in pvp they chose to spec, and Blizzard's actions support that. The restriction for +3 levels only is still in effect in PvE.

It's nothing personal. Nobody got offended when Blizzard cracked down on addons like oqueue's original functionality. Petitioned maybe, but not offended. Nothing was taken personally when blue posts were directly attacked players looking to premade vs pugs and bots, and suggested going into rated pvp. Why would anyone take it personally that Blizzard has openly backed a change that enforces the idea that pvp will be more balanced across the board and no longer agree with players that feel entitled to faceroll players 4 levels under them?

24s are still entitled to their endgame enchants and lvl 21-24 spells. They will no longer be entitled to negate f2p's in-game decisions and strategies without using some demonstration of skilled play.

And yes, that 2nd quote was a personal attack, and why I changed it to something less offensive. You caught me though, so I guess I have to apologize. You may not have fully comprehended the thread or the arguments presented, but perhaps I went too far to call you a complete illiterate for it. However, I was troll baited into making that statement, making the new statement significantly more accurate. I'm not going to spam our good moderators with insignificant reports over it.

we all know what you was getting at with the 24 comment and your insulting manner towards me. and the wall of text trying to explain your actions is overkill. i wouldn't expect anything more from someone who doesn't pay there way though.

i'll just put you on my ignore list and let the mods do what they see fit, good day.

 

[Lil]

we all know what you was getting at with the 24 comment and your insulting manner towards me. and the wall of text trying to explain your actions is overkill. i wouldn't expect anything more from someone who doesn't pay there way though.

i'll just put you on my ignore list and let the mods do what they see fit, good day.

You don't like the way oni worded it or think she went back on what she said? Well then I'll clear it up. She hates how ts and every 5th ability misses against 24s and how 24s think they are good because of it. 24s think they are good because they haven't had any real threat from 20s which is 4/5 of this bracket. Those 24 rogues who 1v1 any 20 with one pop of evasion or those 24 reroll Rdruids who get to freecast since all our cc misses.

we all know what you was getting at with the 24 comment and your insulting manner towards me

90% of 24s are bads who crutch and once 5.2 comes out as long as F2P don't lose resil, haste and crit because of scaling I bet alot of the 24s will start jumping ship since there will still be a fair fight. Trials don't need enchants. Let the 24s have those enchants because as long as we can hit ya we will kill ya. Skill>enchants.

i wouldn't expect anything more from someone who doesn't pay there way though.

typical 24 comment lol. Don't worry though if you play US you will start seeing this nobody who doesn't pay there way killing you alot more {;

 

[Allofasudden]

I doubt this will be the change you f2ps seem to think it will be. All that will be better for you is hit rating and hp. Your gear and enchants will still be shit.

 

[Lil]

I doubt this will be the change you f2ps seem to think it will be. All that will be better for you is hit rating and hp. Your gear and enchants will still be shit.

ahem

Trials don't need enchants. Let the 24s have those enchants because as long as we can hit ya we will kill ya. Skill>enchants.

 

[Allofasudden]

meh im not interested in reading an entire post of people bickering back and forth. But the skilled 24's vs the skilled f2ps will still win. But kudos to you lil for sure, you play very well.

 

[c[_]]

You don't like the way oni worded it or think she went back on what she said? Well then I'll clear it up. She hates how ts and every 5th ability misses against 24s and how 24s think they are good because of it. 24s think they are good because they haven't had any real threat from 20s which is 4/5 of this bracket. Those 24 rogues who 1v1 any 20 with one pop of evasion or those 24 reroll Rdruids who get to freecast since all our cc misses.

please dont give me the 24 "crutching" BS. every other f2p is a reroll to what ever op class is out there atm, you know it and i know it.*cough*

90% of 24s are bads who crutch and once 5.2 comes out as long as F2P don't lose resil, haste and crit because of scaling I bet alot of the 24s will start jumping ship since there will still be a fair fight. Trials don't need enchants. Let the 24s have those enchants because as long as we can hit ya we will kill ya. Skill>enchants.

i dont care about your opinion of good or bad. what i will say is i have played 29s for years, where every one was even, so that above all things won't bother me. do you think i like getting in a group with 1.2k hp prots? "where u get dat hat?" haunts me.

also, hunters can easy cap vs 24s. no excuses please.

typical 24 comment lol. Don't worry though if you play US you will start seeing this nobody who doesn't pay there way killing you alot more {;

typical uninformed f2ps comment. 1: i play a 20, 2: i play on AP, 3: WG's?. now...

i pay my way in life[full stop] i dont want to pay other peoples way, then get called names for driving a nice car.

 

[MarzRider]

This is gonna bring team swag back 5.2.

Get ready to rumble.