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I want to join. But why level 50? Old raids require at least level 59 to enter. Don't they? Anyways what is the best way to contact you ? I don't want to leave my real-id email here.
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I want to join. But why level 50? Old raids require at least level 59 to enter. Don't they? Anyways what is the best way to contact you ? I don't want to leave my real-id email here.
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iaccidentallytwink
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Try testing only specials.
A little bit of reading goes a long way.
You can PM me.
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iaccidentallytwink
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We are short on tanks and DPS at the moment. We're still missing a tank (and DPS) for AQ10 as our only other tank seems to have dropped off the face of the earth after hitting 50. Take a look at the first post for chardevs.
Lazybum
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will try again once i have a few more items that are "bis" for this
Falkor
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what dummy were you testing on?
Lazybum
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shoulders and cloak from ring of law check!!! took 20 ish resets to get shoulders but with 2.5 min ish clears not a big deal, and when i hit instance limit for the hour i went and farmed ore to make my engineering boots
testing on "Raider's Training Dummy" skull lvl to me and i assume is suppose to be a raid boss, least i hope i was right in guessing that
Hit: 26.48%
acrance shot : 88 hits 13 misses 12.9% miss chance
auto shot: 126 hits 29 misses 18.7% miss chance
steady shot: 78 hits 9 misses 10.3% miss chance
in my current gear 1 trinket (boa) and 1 ring dont have hit everything else does, no enchants atm but 30 ranged hit rating on my bow
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afk auto shot the lvl 70 training dummy and i had 215 shots 0 misses
afk auto shot the lvl 80 training dummy and i had 163 hits 19 misses just over 10% miss rate
which target dummy should we use to try and test our miss rate for a raid boss?
testing on "Raider's Training Dummy" skull lvl to me and i assume is suppose to be a raid boss, least i hope i was right in guessing that
Hit: 26.48%
acrance shot : 88 hits 13 misses 12.9% miss chance
auto shot: 126 hits 29 misses 18.7% miss chance
steady shot: 78 hits 9 misses 10.3% miss chance
in my current gear 1 trinket (boa) and 1 ring dont have hit everything else does, no enchants atm but 30 ranged hit rating on my bow
updates:
afk auto shot the lvl 70 training dummy and i had 215 shots 0 misses
afk auto shot the lvl 80 training dummy and i had 163 hits 19 misses just over 10% miss rate
which target dummy should we use to try and test our miss rate for a raid boss?
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Falkor
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I think the raid bosses are 63s, but I'm not positive. Cuz usually they scale, so for a 60 they'd be 63, and even of u go back at 70 at clear mc they scale to 3 lvls higher (not hp or dmg, but just their chance to be missed/dodge n parry iirc)....but I think the minimum lvl for classic bosses is 63 instead of u going in at 50 and them scaling down to 53.
If that's right then shooting the 70 target w/ 0 misses means ur over the cap, but idk by how much. you'd have to use the 60 and 70 and find or compute the cap or something. Cuz I think the raiding dummy is 83 no matter what lvl attacks it, instead of scaling down
Could be, but they could also suck. Comparing the warrior tank chardev on front page to one I made a while ago the bear has an edge on hp and armor, and has a decent chunk of dodge....but you can't parry or block and you don't have mastery to help balance that out
i also made the chardev back when the suspected hit cap was way lower so it only has 7% hit and 0 exp, tho this may or may not matter with current threat generation mechanics; tanks haven't really cared about either stat - or at least capping them - for a while afaik
Hopefully y'all keep these toons parked at 50 till after mop comes out whether or not you're successful now. Cuz the spell/talent overhaul and addition of monks could be fun to mess around with in this setting
halahazam
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Hey, I have a few questions about the Shockadin and Elemental Shammy builds.
Now I have twinked a shockadin at 39 and there they tend to go pretty fast out of mana, and seeing that the build doesn't have any spirit on it, Shockadins may have a relatively long downtime, even with Denounce. I see great potential with having the gear from the spriest set up on a holy priest, because spirit plays a big role, notice the talents ''Judgements of the Pure'' and ''Enlightened Judgements''.
Also, where do shamans get hit rating? There are very few hit rating items but still they manage to get so much of it.
Now I have twinked a shockadin at 39 and there they tend to go pretty fast out of mana, and seeing that the build doesn't have any spirit on it, Shockadins may have a relatively long downtime, even with Denounce. I see great potential with having the gear from the spriest set up on a holy priest, because spirit plays a big role, notice the talents ''Judgements of the Pure'' and ''Enlightened Judgements''.
Also, where do shamans get hit rating? There are very few hit rating items but still they manage to get so much of it.
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iaccidentallytwink
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Hey guys. I'm off to Miami today until Monday for the Ultra Music Festival and some clubbing, so I'll be inactive until Monday night at the earliest.
1. I did not take into account anything other than spirit for the Pally chardev. The entire point of them would be for Denounce, I don't find them viable for much else. Fortunately, Denounce is huge for us because of Crushing blows and other mechanics that favor the boss at the level we're raiding at. I'm not going to lie, I have not actively played a Pally at any level. I've leveled one to 70 with all 3 specs, though.
2. Spirit talent; converts 1 SPI -> 1 HIT.
Thanks for your continued wisdom and presence in this thread. You've been very helpful despite not being actively involved in the project. I'll be sure to credit you in our promo AQ10 vid.
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iaccidentallytwink
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Unfortunately for some odd reason the only Classic raid 50s can't enter is BWL, it requires 55.
Falkor
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i havent been able to find anything saying 100% that denounce either does or doesnt effect raid bosses, so might wanna have someone test that out, just to make sure. i know the debuff shows up on a boss just like any other mob/player...but i dont think anyone has gotten definitive proof it cancels a bosses ability to crit
additionally, denounce wont prevent crushing blows as they arent a critical effect, they're just a normal attack at 150% dmg (iirc they can crit tho, making denounce very very nice if it works, b/c fuck getting hit for 300%)
well ty, that'd be legit
i was very interested in making one but i didnt wanna lvl one of my 49s to make an ez one (too much lvlers remorse in the past) and between work, school, and a social life i barely even have time to log on my 80 more than once a week. so even tho 1-50 is ez lvling and the gearing up doesnt seem too hard, i just cant make the commitment atm
edit: just to avoid any possible confusion, on my previous post i meant the raiding dummy is most likely 88 and doesnt scale, not 83...stupid xpac messing me up
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soup is yume
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I wont be able to make it to the first raid, but i should be able to make it to all the rest of the tries.
Lazybum
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more testing today on lvl 70 training dummy with a "of the bandit" goggles on, lost 4.1% hit down to 22.38% and out of 225 shots i missed 8 for a 3.6% miss rate, wonder if i went to outlands and found a lvl 63 mob to shoot if that would be the same as shooting a raid boss in aq or mc.
either way the setup posted for hunters has 28.38% hit i think it was and that seems to be way way too much
either way the setup posted for hunters has 28.38% hit i think it was and that seems to be way way too much