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summoned my 50 to outlands and been testing on the raging colossus mobs around the red crystal in hellfire since they are 63 mobs, use my 85 dk to grab it and then slap it once and let hunter auto shoot it


Test with 15.78% hit:
#1: 35 auto shots with 1 miss (2.9% miss rate)
#2: 55 auto shots with 3 miss (5.5% miss rate)
#3: 44 auto shots with 2 miss (4.3% miss rate)

Test with 17.10% hit:
#1: 53 auto shots with 0 misses (looks promising)
#2: 43 auto shots with 0 misses (oddly enough a fel reaver walked into my dk as he was sitting holding aggro lol)
#3: 78 auto shots with 0 misses (had a 2nd raging colossus walk into the mix)

Test with 16.44% hit:
#1: 56 auto shots with 2 miss (3.6% miss rate)
#2: 97 auto shots with 2 miss (2.1% miss rate)(grabbed a 2nd mob from near by to prolong the testing)
#3: 40 auto shots with 0 miss (0% miss rate)

so from my testing on lvl 63 mobs for hunters it looks like we need 17% hit (think stats are rounded down) either way if they arent 17.1% hit provided 0 misses in 174 shots where 16.44% hit had 4 misses in 193 shots.

this is all assuming raid bosses in AQ and MC will be lvl 63 mobs for us
 
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Maybe someone who knows more about hunters can help explain this but it seems to me like Screeching Bow - Item - World of Warcraft would be the BIS if you dont need the hit rating. Changes my range from 461-541 to 531-533. I know its a slower weapon i lose 1 dps off it but wouldnt the speed be beneficial to steady shot? and the damage is very consistent.
 
Sammy said:
OR. you could take an 85 and a 50 into an actual raid and test the hit %s there. Ive let the bosses in AQ beat on my 85 prot pally for sometime before i get skeered.
The best testing would come from the actual mobs, eh?
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if raid bosses scale to the lvl that is there this wouldnt work since with an 85 there holding aggro the boss would be an 88 hit/dodge wise
 
Rehab said:
Maybe someone who knows more about hunters can help explain this but it seems to me like Screeching Bow - Item - World of Warcraft would be the BIS if you dont need the hit rating. Changes my range from 461-541 to 531-533. I know its a slower weapon i lose 1 dps off it but wouldnt the speed be beneficial to steady shot? and the damage is very consistent.
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can you provide a link to your new armory page? old one dont work anymore, curious to what gear you have

stupid rivendare wont drop his gloves or cloak ...



with a bit of gear swapping i figured out a survival hunter needs 50 haste to get their explosive shot to the magical 1.66 cast time, now to see if i can reach that with 17%hit as well, this is where the screeching bow may come in handy for the haste on it
 
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Rehab said:
Rehabxx @ Daggerspine - Game Guide - World of Warcraft

I believe that's bis for the 28% hit with screeching bow. Has it been confirmed if we only need 17%? If so I have a lot to change lol
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i tested it on 63 mobs in hellfire but that is assuming the raid bosses will be 63s for us, myself im gearing my hunter for 17% hit 50 haste and as much crit and agi i can get

will go test it myself today in aq40 or MC but not sure i will get reliable results using an 85 to hold boss aggro

Baron FINALLY dropped the mail gloves with hit, but still no sign of the cloak with haste but i have had enough of him for now

felwood, searing gorge and burning steppes quests done, well done enough to get the blue reward i was after in each zone

why does every drop have to be off the last boss in a zone? lol ring from tribute run in DM and cloak from baron, bah! lol

MOLTEN CORE TESTING w/ 17.10% hit

*had to be summoned in since quest to be attuned is a lvl 55 required

test 1: Gehennas: 19 auto shots 0 misses (random target shadow bolt killed me)
test 2: Garr: 277 shots 2 misses (0.7% miss rate) odd indeed but none the less looking good
test 3: Shazzrah: 20 shots 0 misses (random teleport and arcane explosion killed me) theme seems to be i need a healer for testing lol
test 4: Baron Geddon: 47 shots 0 misses (only targeted once for living bomb or test would of been much shorter lol)
test 5: Golemagg: 5 shots 0 misses (death to random firebolts)
test 6: Golemagg: 59 hits 1 miss (1.7% miss rate) healer buddy fail ended test early

test 7: Golemagg
* 365 auto shots 1 miss (0.3% miss)
* 170 steady shots 0 misses
* 147 explosive shot (dot) 0 misses
* 27 kill shots 1 miss (3.7% miss )
* 83 Sepent sting (dot) 0 misses
* 27 arcane shots 0 misses
*17 improved serpent sting 1 miss(5.9% miss)

Summary 836 shots and dot ticks with a total of 3 misses, all done with 17.10% hit and my 85 DK tanking the mob with the help of 85 shadow priest to bubble and heal my 50 hunter to keep him alive. so i dont think a hunter needs much more hit then 17% perhaps 18% at the most. but Golemagg's fire dot was hitting my 50 hunter for 1500ish and he has 4k hp with Fort. My dps wasnt real impressive either with it ending at 180.3 dps (NO PET EITHER) but i spent a good 10 min just auto shooting of the 15 min battle.
 
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Lazybum said:
Summary 836 shots and dot ticks with a total of 3 misses, all done with 17.10% hit and my 85 DK tanking the mob with the help of 85 shadow priest to bubble and heal my 50 hunter to keep him alive. so i dont think a hunter needs much more hit then 17% perhaps 18% at the most. but Golemagg's fire dot was hitting my 50 hunter for 1500ish and he has 4k hp with Fort. My dps wasnt real impressive either with it ending at 180.3 dps but i spent a good 10 min just auto shooting of the 15 min battle.
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Interesting, suppose I can just grab some haste gear and go for around 17%hit and as we do the runs/aq if more is needed I have it available.
 
Rehab said:
Interesting, suppose I can just grab some haste gear and go for around 17%hit and as we do the runs/aq if more is needed I have it available.
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think the helm alone is 4% some hit, first thing i would replace, myself going to get the epic gnomish ones

http://www.wowhead.com/item=23829 (50 agi 21 stam 28 crit )

nice haste neck from searing gorge and a nice haste belt from burning steppes only things you have to do like 20 some quests to get them, that and baron has a haste cloak he can drop but refuses to drop it for me lol
 
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Lazybum said:
think the helm alone is 4% some hit, first thing i would replace, myself going to get the epic gnomish ones

Gnomish Battle Goggles - Item - World of Warcraft (50 agi 21 stam 28 crit )

nice haste neck from searing gorge and a nice haste belt from burning steppes only things you have to do like 20 some quests to get them, that and baron has a haste cloak he can drop but refuses to drop it for me lol
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Engineering hit trinket -> sunken temple haste trinket works out pretty well too :p also probably going to change weapon to 2x Eater of the Dead - Item - World of Warcraft or Monstrous Glaive - Item - World of Warcraft probably go with the 1h since its 8agi vs 3haste and it's looking like I'll have no trouble getting plenty of haste.
 
hmm 2x eater isnt a bad idea at all, think i will use the BOA trinket since its same amount of haste with a minor heal every time something dies that would give xp, suppose i could try for the one from ST since i will be in there trying for the 1h'ers. i need to get back to work on my professions since i need to lvl enchanting then skinning yet and my first aid as well.

these Stratholme Militia Shoulderguard - Item - World of Warcraft may not be a bad item to watch for on the AH if they still drop

good to see i have someone else to compare notes with while trying to gear my 50 hunter, wish others were more active too so we could get alot of info out there for the other classes
 
Lazybum said:
hmm 2x eater isnt a bad idea at all, think i will use the BOA trinket since its same amount of haste with a minor heal every time something dies that would give xp, suppose i could try for the one from ST since i will be in there trying for the 1h'ers. i need to get back to work on my professions since i need to lvl enchanting then skinning yet and my first aid as well.

these Stratholme Militia Shoulderguard - Item - World of Warcraft may not be a bad item to watch for on the AH if they still drop

good to see i have someone else to compare notes with while trying to gear my 50 hunter, wish others were more active too so we could get alot of info out there for the other classes
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Yea I still need to level my skinning more not looking forward to having to skin lvl 65+ mobs as a level 50 though lol going to have to dual box to kill stuff probably. As for the shoulders I'm not crossing my fingers to see those anytime soon with wowheads listed drop rate :p. Also can use Skul's Fingerbone Claws - Item - World of Warcraft. in place of the hit variant although I had no trouble getting 20% haste with 2x eaters now debating if i want to get crit or haste to replace more hit. And yea it's nice comparing with someone else incase you miss something hopefully others are doing it too.
 
Rehab said:
Also can use Skul's Fingerbone Claws - Item - World of Warcraft. in place of the hit variant .
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think you have as much luck getting the boe shoulders as you would in finding this guy let alone getting him to drop the gloves lol

as for getting haste or crit i would go crit, crit has always been hunters #1 stat and more haste would only be good if you can get your steady shot down to a 1.25 cast so you can fit 4 in between your ES cooldown, other wise would stay around 50 ish so its at 1.66 cast

im almost done i think with my gear few items i want to change yet

low hit ring to the one from dm tribute run
weapon to 2x eater (have)(took 4 runs, first 2 he dropped the mace)
chest to epic one from ring of law ...... lol
cloak to hit one from ring (have)
trinket to crit one from enchanting (have)
trinket to haste one from ST (have)(forgot it was from quest so 100%)
last but not least current goggles to the epic gnomish ones

3 items left to get =)
 
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