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Yea this is a thing with the US project personaly I dont wont to turn down any classes just because they are unviable for specific roles, however on the issue of Pally tanking there are certain factors that makes them unviable.
In my mind the things that make a good tank at 50 are, Health, Passive Damage Reduction, Armor, Avoidance in that order.
Warriors have a decent amount of all of these, they have high health, crazy passive damage reduction (25%), Best armor due to plate, and gaining parry through streangh gives them suitable avoidance.
Paladins however have to deal with 2k less hp than warriors buffed which is a huge amount to 50s, they lack passive damage reduction (I cant rememebr but I know they get 15% at level 64 so theyre passive at 50 is either 10% or 0%), Theyre armor is about the same as warriors which is around 50% due to using leather gear to get all the hp from certain item slots like the helm slot. And finaly their avoidance, again this is similar to warriors. Overall from testing conducted in AQ warriors are being hit for 2.5k a meele attack, Im not going to do all the maths and your welcome to do it and prove me wrong but from what iv seen paladins are being hit for 4k a meele attack. However another big part of PvE is teh crazy burst some guy can do which account up to 7k on a warrior in less than half of a second. This would defeintly be a 1 shot on Paladins.
 
Aseelken I believe its time for a <Fifty> lecture, at level 50 being hit by 60+ mobs the chance that they will crit you is actualy 0% this is becuase there is a 100% chance that they will crushing blow (150% base damage) you. So this base resistence to crit is unnesicary.
 
Just a little update to the Health part of Paladins, warriors get a 15% bonus to health, Paladins get 25%, however paladins dont get access to gnomish op trinks so overall the hp is very similar but warriors will still have more hp in full BiS gear.
 
Swagmaster Oncilla up in this thread. Main tank for Fifty. Hit me up if you need help, I'm the best tank that's ever lived.
 
Current state of this guild is actually a bit unknown.
It was going really good, people was leveling and other were gearing and running dungeons.
But the last days, or last week, it has been a lot less active tbh. I have been online regularly, but I don't see them on either the 50 or their Real ID.. so school/work must be pushing on at the moment, I don't know.

It is pushing me a little, and I have a lot to do at the moment. As soon as I can get everyone together fast again, I'll try to make the first team.

TO EVERYONE IN FaP :)D:D:D) come online, or pm me some info pls ;)
specially you, egmoller!
 
I recommend also everyone in guild add me real id.
cbsdem@gmail.com

This will be awesome, when we get first team up and running.
Going to the forest to shoot some films for a project, but when I get home I will try to orginaze this up, team 1 incoming.
 
Current state of this guild is actually a bit unknown.
It was going really good, people was leveling and other were gearing and running dungeons.
But the last days, or last week, it has been a lot less active tbh. I have been online regularly, but I don't see them on either the 50 or their Real ID.. so school/work must be pushing on at the moment, I don't know.

It is pushing me a little, and I have a lot to do at the moment. As soon as I can get everyone together fast again, I'll try to make the first team.

TO EVERYONE IN FaP :)D:D:D) come online, or pm me some info pls ;)
specially you, egmoller!
I am atm farming AH to get my future gear sets, monk is atm @ lvl 46 and I might lvl it to 50 this weekend :)
 
I'm telling you right now, you HAVE to have warrior tanks. Although you guys are knock-offs of us, you could still do extremely well. You guys just don't have the option to really be particular yet as you're just starting.
 
I'm telling you right now, you HAVE to have warrior tanks. Although you guys are knock-offs of us, you could still do extremely well. You guys just don't have the option to really be particular yet as you're just starting.
I also recommend you change the guild name to Greater Value.
 
Take it back now Oncilla, recent patch changes have lets say..... made every trash hit for half their damage, in Pandaria blizzard made classic raids hit 100% more damage, they have now removed this.... what that means are pally tanks are viable again as well as druid tanks... but disc priest dps is not viable :)
 
Take it back now Oncilla, recent patch changes have lets say..... made every trash hit for half their damage, in Pandaria blizzard made classic raids hit 100% more damage, they have now removed this.... what that means are pally tanks are viable again as well as druid tanks... but disc priest dps is not viable :)
BM monks viable?
 
You can add me too if you want, i'm on doomhammer
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Brew Master monks are good tanks at 50, but they have crap hit so you will only be hitting 30% of the time at most. This is due to dodge/parry being at around 70% even if you manage to reach hit cap. I have a BM Monk and personaly their tanking has no problems, they cant get evasive brew because auto attacks dont crit on raid mobs at such a high level. Apart from that and the hit they are fine, if it was 2 days ago I would have suggested you play a Warrior but since everything in Classic Raids now hit half damage anything could be viable.
 
Brewmasters don't generate aggro. I steal aggro from these in about two hits. #WarriorLyfe
 

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