Do you honestly have fun as a F2P in 20-24 battlegrounds?

[C O T U S]

Cotus, what was the point of making this thread? To dispute a claim i made earlier? I already told you the majority of f2ps still enjoyed bgs and if they choose to do arena on the side or whatever else have you then that's their choice and theirs alone.

Honestly if you don't like BGs anymore then that's fine but leave others and their decisions to themselves. No one wants to argue or dispute what they want to do for fun so just leave it alone.

well shoot, i guess since you told me that the majority of people still enjoy F2P BGs, i should have just realized that you speak for everyone who plays F2P and not bothered to make this thread. do you guys even re-read your posts after you write them, before you post, to make sure that they don't sound ridiculously stupid?

not only this, but your quote was that most reasonable people enjoy them, not a majority. it's on the first page of this thread, if you somehow forgot. we're at 57-43 right now, which is certainly a majority, but not anywhere near a large enough majority where i would consider it to speak for the entire group of people who plays F2P.

that's less than 6 people out of 10 who are having a good time every time they queue up for BGs as a F2P. please, enlighten me as to why this is insignificant and does not warrant exploring other options for F2P pvp.

and NO, i am not going to stop fucking posting constructive things on this forum just because it makes you angry because it forces you and others to confront reality. what the hell is wrong with you? i don't give a shit if you don't like my thread. if you don't like it, don't post in it! if you like BGs, fuck off and play your BGs! clearly, there are more than a few of us who want to do something else, and i want to let these people know that they're not alone and that with a little effort, they can have more fun too.

 

[verh]

well shoot, i guess since you told me that the majority of people still enjoy F2P BGs, i should have just realized that you speak for everyone who plays F2P and not bothered to make this thread. do you guys even re-read your posts after you write them, before you post, to make sure that they don't sound ridiculously stupid?

not only this, but your quote was that most reasonable people enjoy them, not a majority. it's on the first page of this thread, if you somehow forgot. we're at 57-43 right now, which is certainly a majority, but not anywhere near a large enough majority where i would consider it to speak for the entire group of people who plays F2P.

that's less than 6 people out of 10 who are having a good time every time they queue up for BGs as a F2P. please, enlighten me as to why this is insignificant and does not warrant exploring other options for F2P pvp.

and NO, i am not going to stop fucking posting constructive things on this forum just because it makes you angry because it forces you and others to confront reality. what the hell is wrong with you? i don't give a shit if you don't like my thread. if you don't like it, don't post in it! if you like BGs, fuck off and play your BGs! clearly, there are more than a few of us who want to do something else, and i want to let these people know that they're not alone and that with a little effort, they can have more fun too.

It would seem stupid if their post was hypocritical or wrong, but based on the last time i checked the polls " Yes" was winning despite the bias.

 

[rsq]

Anything I am good at is challenging and therefore an indication of my innate skill. Anything I am not good at is clearly RNG-based which only bads participate in.

Sorry to respond so late to this but that is absolutely NOT what I am insinuating. When one types "arenas, anyone?" in chat there are often people who are intimidated. There's been mention to that numerous times in this thread. People sometimes whisper me and ask if they can come and learn because they have never done them before. In my post I was simply saying we should find ways to demystify arenas so that we can do them more often.

And to be frank, look at the characters in my signature. Clearly I fucking love battlegrounds - even F2P BGs - I have over 25k hks spread among my 20s. I just have been enjoying them less because of the abundance of people rolling op classes. At one point, I could play around with a less FotM class and still top the charts. Now, there are too many 24s and hunters/paladins to contend with; it's not as fun as I once experienced.

I'm simply trying to seek support for an alternative to battlegrounds. I'm not supporting elitism or trying to make people enjoy their experience less.

 

[zaxxo1]

well shoot, i guess since you told me that the majority of people still enjoy F2P BGs, i should have just realized that you speak for everyone who plays F2P and not bothered to make this thread. do you guys even re-read your posts after you write them, before you post, to make sure that they don't sound ridiculously stupid?

not only this, but your quote was that most reasonable people enjoy them, not a majority. it's on the first page of this thread, if you somehow forgot. we're at 57-43 right now, which is certainly a majority, but not anywhere near a large enough majority where i would consider it to speak for the entire group of people who plays F2P.

that's less than 6 people out of 10 who are having a good time every time they queue up for BGs as a F2P. please, enlighten me as to why this is insignificant and does not warrant exploring other options for F2P pvp.

and NO, i am not going to stop fucking posting constructive things on this forum just because it makes you angry because it forces you and others to confront reality. what the hell is wrong with you? i don't give a shit if you don't like my thread. if you don't like it, don't post in it! if you like BGs, fuck off and play your BGs! clearly, there are more than a few of us who want to do something else, and i want to let these people know that they're not alone and that with a little effort, they can have more fun too.

Irrelevant of whether or not I (or anybody) agrees or disagrees with you, I believe the best way to get people into arenas is not by appearing intimidating, and annoying/rude. Please try and keep this a friendly community, and cut back on offending people, and saying offensive things. I am not insinuating your views are wrong, or that this is a 'bad' thread, but you aren't helping your own cause in any significant way.
~Zaxxo

 

[Klinda]

well shoot, i guess since you told me that the majority of people still enjoy F2P BGs, i should have just realized that you speak for everyone who plays F2P and not bothered to make this thread. do you guys even re-read your posts after you write them, before you post, to make sure that they don't sound ridiculously stupid?

not only this, but your quote was that most reasonable people enjoy them, not a majority. it's on the first page of this thread, if you somehow forgot. we're at 57-43 right now, which is certainly a majority, but not anywhere near a large enough majority where i would consider it to speak for the entire group of people who plays F2P.

that's less than 6 people out of 10 who are having a good time every time they queue up for BGs as a F2P. please, enlighten me as to why this is insignificant and does not warrant exploring other options for F2P pvp.

and NO, i am not going to stop fucking posting constructive things on this forum just because it makes you angry because it forces you and others to confront reality. what the hell is wrong with you? i don't give a shit if you don't like my thread. if you don't like it, don't post in it! if you like BGs, fuck off and play your BGs! clearly, there are more than a few of us who want to do something else, and i want to let these people know that they're not alone and that with a little effort, they can have more fun too.

Well obviously based on your poll results, along with the daily activity of the bracket on both sides in numerous countries, as well as the comments in this thread, we can obviously reach the conclusion that the majority of f2ps do enjoy bgs. Honestly Cotus, if the Majority of the people in this bracket didn't enjoy BGs would this bracket be as active as it has been since f2p became permanent?

This bracket is expanding rapidly and no one can deny that. I'm not saying that BGs are the only things people can do but i could arguable say that BGs are the biggest part of the f2p experience along with the community. You are right though, i should have said the Majority instead of reasonable so i'll give you that.

You also said that the poll results so far were 57-43 then you go onto say

that's less than 6 people out of 10 who are having a good time every time they queue up for BGs as a F2P. please, enlighten me as to why this is insignificant and does not warrant exploring other options for F2P pvp.

Are you saying that for everyone or only those 47?That's a very small number since it doesn't reflect the large number of f2ps in this bracket currently. Honestly if those 47 don't enjoy Bgs they have plenty of other options to explore as you pointed out. If they choose to explore those options that's fine but if they don't oh well i guess.


And i'm assuming the underlined wasn't directed at me since i don't recall saying any of that.

 

[Yde]

clearly, there are more than a few of us who want to do something else, and i want to let these people know that they're not alone and that with a little effort, they can have more fun too.

I actually think it's great that you posted the poll. Disregarding the scientific value of the poll*, both it and the thread do show very important issues. Never mind the relation between the number of people having fun and the number of people not having fun. There are over 21 people not having fun at all, and many posters said that over time the fun they derived from BGs became lessened immensely. I think it's great that you are promoting alternatives like arena and world pvp! Continue being constructive!

That said, and please don't be offended, maybe if you weren't so terribly angry all the time, and a bit less insulting to those disagreeing with you, some people would possibly be less intimidated when offered the option to learn to arena? Your post to Klinda appeared quite rude to me.




*The poll is laden with wording, response and non-response bias and thus sadly has no scientific value if one wants to know the relation of people having fun to people not having fun. Example for non-response bias:

i don't give a shit if you don't like my thread. if you don't like it, don't post in it! if you like BGs, fuck off and play your BGs!

I'm pretty sure some people didn't like or care about your thread and didn't vote, that might skew the results.
But as I said, I think the significance here is not the relation but the number of people not having fun at all, which is sad, as a game is meant to be a rewarding diversion.


EDIT: Well, shoot, both zaxxo and Klinda are wearing haste sets. ^^

 

[2x12=?]

i been on ap all day, all i've seen is the same 6-7 guys spamming f2p chat looking for games thats clearly not the majority of the sever, never mind the bracket.

any outsiders looking at this thread go make an account and take a look if you want proof.

oh and remember, this poll is over 2 continents not just US.

 

[Yde]

i been on ap all day, all i've seen is the same 6-7 guys spamming f2p chat looking for games thats clearly not the majority of the sever, never mind the bracket.

Actually I was on AP earlier until I dc'd, and I thought there were quite a few games going on? I think the 'spamming' is just normal talk to coordinate teams forming.

 

[C O T U S]

this thread is NOT ABOUT ARENA. i'm not going to bother responding to specific posts anymore. is arena in the original post of this thread? is arena in the poll? how many times, and by how many people, does this need to be posted until you people figure it out? there are other threads promoting arenas. if you don't like arenas, and want to flame people for promoting them, go post there!

i don't care if you're offended by me calling you out for making stupid posts! if you don't like it, stop making stupid posts! or better yet, just stop posting in this thread, since all you're doing is whining at me! there is no reason for someone who is happy BGing to be posting in this thread, except to get butthurt because other people apparently do not like BGs as much as you (and this would affect your BGing how.....?)

i want to do things other than BGs, other people want to do things other than BGs, and there is nothing that you people can do about it. tough shit. don't worry, i don't think that this thread is going to "steal" anyone away from your battlegrounds, and even if it does, never fear - there will be plenty more 24s and backpedalling hunters to fill up those empty slots! one thing that we can all agree on is that 20-24 battlegrounds aren't going to be lacking players anytime soon!

 

[youakim]

Honestly Cotus, if the Majority of the people in this bracket didn't enjoy BGs would this bracket be as active as it has been since f2p became permanent?

Do I have to say it again? The Majority of people play an op as fuck class, be it paladins or hunters it doesnt matter. They revel in their OPness, and its what makes the bracket fun to them. Klinda, you play a Holy Paladin. You roll in the hunter-infested battlegrounds like a pig rolling in mud. This bracket is so active because of all the hunters and paladins that make it not fun to me or the 21 other people that voted No. If the Majority of people weren't part of the problem, then this bracket might be fun to bg in again.

 

[Yde]

Alright. I apologise for using the word arena. It obviously has no place in this thread, which is called

Do you honestly have fun as a F2P in 20-24 battlegrounds?

there is no reason for someone who is happy BGing to be posting in this thread

I will get the fuck out and I will not post my retarded opinion in here again.

 

[rsq]

Also, can we chill out on the insults? This has the potential to be a much more productive, much less offensive thread. (if you ignore the research bias... )

 

[Earlwing]

Also, can we chill out on the insults? This has the potential to be a much more productive, much less offensive thread. (if you ignore the research bias... )

You're asking for a thread started by the most inconsiderate, slanderous person to be insult-free? This thread might actually have some merit if it were approached in a reasonable fashion. Don't expect any thread started by cotus to be productive. Wading through the swamp of sarcasm, and general tones of douche-baggery isn't even worth it. Perhaps someone with healthy social behavior could supersede this thread with something actually worthy of remaining on the front page.

 

[SallyG]

You're asking for a thread started by the most inconsiderate, slanderous person to be insult-free? This thread might actually have some merit if it were approached in a reasonable fashion. Don't expect any thread started by cotus to be productive. Wading through the swamp of sarcasm, and general tones of douche-baggery isn't even worth it. Perhaps someone with healthy social behavior could supersede this thread with something actually worthy of remaining on the front page.

Well said.

 

[2x12=?]

You're asking for a thread started by the most inconsiderate, slanderous person to be insult-free? This thread might actually have some merit if it were approached in a reasonable fashion. Don't expect any thread started by cotus to be productive. Wading through the swamp of sarcasm, and general tones of douche-baggery isn't even worth it. Perhaps someone with healthy social behavior could supersede this thread with something actually worthy of remaining on the front page.

this^^ seems everyone who dont agree with him he insults.

 

[C O T U S]

i'll always be a dick to stupid people - i'll never try to hide it or apologize. if you're going to say idiotic things to me, i'm going to treat you like an idiot. you can consider it inconsiderate, or consider it honest behavior, or both, but it's not going to ever change.

 

[verh]

i'll always be a dick to stupid people - i'll never try to hide it or apologize. if you're going to say idiotic things to me, i'm going to treat you like an idiot. you can consider it inconsiderate, or consider it honest behavior, or both, but it's not going to ever change.

If you ask an opinion based qustion, and you disagree with an answer, that doesn't make anyone stupid. It is ignorant and stupid (ironically) to think that opinions are either right or wrong. Try to be more open minded.

 

[Rhaellia]

Do I have to say it again? The Majority of people play an op as fuck class, be it paladins or hunters it doesnt matter. They revel in their OPness, and its what makes the bracket fun to them. Klinda, you play a Holy Paladin. You roll in the hunter-infested battlegrounds like a pig rolling in mud. This bracket is so active because of all the hunters and paladins that make it not fun to me or the 21 other people that voted No. If the Majority of people weren't part of the problem, then this bracket might be fun to bg in again.

This is funny.

I remember people always saying priests were 'op', and Cotus just posted something recently about how arcane mages were 'the second god-class' (something along those lines) assuming it is true though I would never think that hinders or takes away from your 'skill'. Nor would I de-value you over playing those classes but I understand frustration makes people do and say things in a way that can be mean and, frustrating I don't play a paladin cause it's 'op', I play it cause I like it, it's the only class I've ever really liked. That being said, I will continue to play it.

Do yourself a favor, friend. Relax Don't take this stuff too seriously, don't be afraid to lose, it's a game and you're human. It happens. More importantly, if a paladin is giving you hard time or you need a paladin, I'm right here ;D GIVE ME A CALL. Seriously, don't measure yourself and your value by your skill, you could be the most skilled player ever but it's gonna be your personality that is gonna make you 'viable' ;D Cheesy and bit off-topic maybe, but it works! I can sense a smirk, right now! :O

 

[SallyG]

Just gonna save everyone time Rhaellia... Everything you said is invalid because you play a Paladin.

 

[coolio]

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