Define Crutch???

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Grabco said in a post " Someone should start a thread defining What a Crutch accually is"



Well... Here we go!





Crutch... What is the definition of this word?



People have different views on what it is.



Im not 100% either but in my opinion a crutch is something you rely on to gain a situational advantage, which isnt exclusive to your class



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When people say " You Crutch on travel form Brah" I dont believe this is crutching at all, This is an ability which comes with the class you are playing



On the other hand If you dump speed pots every second, do every terrain jump or chow down a gigantic feast which gives the "Well Fed" Buff, i believe this is a crutch cuase it is not a class specific ability/talent. They are items/ perks which gives you an edge in the field of play



Id like to see what other people think a "crutch" is



Discuss and debate :D
 
Hotbot said:
it is not a class specific ability/talent. They are items/ perks which gives you an edge in the field of play
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So you're saying anything that is not a class/race specific talent or ability is a crutch? Like AGM, Lifeblood, BoA's, and bandages? No, none of these are crutches. Yes they are perks, but almost everyone can agree that they are not unfair. They are easily accessible and you not having them is your own fault. I can't stand it when people duel, one person wins because he popped AGM or Lifeblood (which the other person doesn't have) and the loser says "You crutched on Lifeblood." It is NOT a crutch, it is part of the game. Terrain jumps/exploits are also now part of the game, and I don't give one shit if anyone runs around and escapes by doing crazy jumps.



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If you refuse to fight when you can't use all your non-class/race specific abilities, that IS a crutch. Relying on these goodies, using them to win because you can't win without them is a crutch.
 
HA I beat you Lindenkron, look at post times :)
 
crutch

1. A staff or support used by the physically injured or disabled as an aid in walking, usually designed to fit under the armpit and often used in pairs.

2. A forked leg rest on a sidesaddle.

3. A device used for assistance or support; a prop: a mnemonic crutch.

4. The crotch of a person or an animal.

5. A forked device or part.



#4 is particularly applicable to twinks
 
@Scrounger, I already considered posting that, had it copied and all. But it was just that bit too lame for me.

@Khanodruid, L2Simplify things. "Twinking is a crutch" shouldn't be 10 lines that is tl;dr :p
 
lindenkron said:
@Scrounger, I already considered posting that, had it copied and all. But it was just that bit too lame for me.
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that's why I added the clever commentary and here's one more . . .



"caressing my crocheted crutch with my crooked crutch is clearly crutching"
 
An example of a crutch is like my 60s T3 Dreadnaught.... Thats right im not afraid to admit it.
 
Yeah, but considering this is the third post I've seen about crutches in the last few days, I decided to type my post as if talking to a child so I was very over-explanatory and I tried to get my point across as best as I could.
 
Leaving the hilarity aside



I think in the WoW community, crutch can be defined as an exploit, unusual gimmick, or very difficult to obtain gear / enhancement that allows a player with mediocre or worse gear and/or skills to successfully complete PvE content or successfully compete in PvP - particularly if the player would be unable to do so otherwise.
 
Scrounger said:
Leaving the hilarity aside



I think in the WoW community, crutch can be defined as an exploit, unusual gimmick, or very difficult to obtain gear / enhancement that allows a player with mediocre or worse gear and/or skills to successfully complete PvE content or successfully compete in PvP - particularly if the player would be unable to do so otherwise.
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In vanilla when we first started twinking, only the best players had AGM. Oh wait, we were all crutching :)
 
Lotatotems said:
An example of a crutch is like my 60s T3 Dreadnaught.... Thats right im not afraid to admit it.
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not really...yea t3 is unobtainable, but dreadnaught isnt very good imo

now a rogue or dps class with t3...perhaps. but then again, they had the initiative to get the gear during BC while other people sat on their asses
 
Scrounger said:
Leaving the hilarity aside



I think in the WoW community, crutch can be defined as an exploit, unusual gimmick, or very difficult to obtain gear / enhancement that allows a player with mediocre or worse gear and/or skills to successfully complete PvE content or successfully compete in PvP - particularly if the player would be unable to do so otherwise.
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This is 100% how I would define it. If you stop using skill because you can rely on gear no one else has, or complete reliance on skills others cannot obtain, purely in game. Then you are crutching. It is the need for something other people do not have to make you better then them, the reason some might take offense to the term, is crutching limits your skill level and the acceptance other players may have given you as a good player. At 19s even small things can be seen as crutches because there are so few skills and abilities its much easier for little things to give you a big edge.



For example there is no weapon that will make you completely overpowered in 80 pvp compared to what everyone else has, but the kaluak fishing pole will make you near invincible at 19s. Thats probably why the term is not strewn about as often in wow. Almost every skill and piece of gear is obtainable by everyone, because the game designers understand pvp balance. Not that its an easy thing to make happen, but at least they understand it.



Defining crutch differently then the quote here may be an attempt by yourself to convince yourself you don't crutch. Pretty much everyoe who twinks will crutch in some way, especially as there is no real value to doing it outside of the pvp fun. You do it for yourself and blizz doesn't care, so abusing things is the nature of this bracket. In almost any other bracket wall jumps would be seen as a bug, or as crutching, but in this niché people have made it ok. Its just one example of how differences of opinion may seek to redifine word use to fit its own world image.



This definition is the same one I have seen used for many many different games.
 
Stabbedurazz said:
I agree with you mostly besides the fact that i believe a crutch is more of something that is not class specific, and takes no skill I.E. fish feast. An example on something that isnt a crutch in my opinion is jumps, they take skill and practice to do and if you have not learned them its your fault.
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The 19 bracket is going to pretty much be the only place where people say that terrain exploits are not a crutch.
 
When someone says something is a 'crutch' that means it supports, props, or sustains something. In WoW terms, a 'crutch' would be anything that someone might use to get an advantage over others. Whatever it might be that they use to support them self, without it, they would fall. Pretty much anything in the game can be a 'crutch' at a given time.



Code: 
Crutch

— vb

5.     ( tr ) to support or sustain (a person or thing) as with a crutch
 
Falaris said:
The 19 bracket is going to pretty much be the only place where people say that terrain exploits are not a crutch.
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Considering some jumps are exclusive to certain races, I'd say it's an exploit. I don't know understand why Blizz hasn't addressed these issues, seems like it would take no time to fix.



Priorities I guess.
 
I agree that it is situationally dependent and therefore subject to an almost endless debate.



In a land of cripples, there are no crutches - just walking aids.



or from the other side of the coin



In the land of twinks, there are no crutches - just AGMs, jumps, and crusader enchants - oh my.
 
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