Define Crutch???

[Oasis]

If youre losing to rogues as a priest youre just not as good of a priest as you think you are. Dont misunderstand, Ive always known you werent as good of a priest as you think you are, but this should confirm it to everyone else. I dont think I ever saw Kidneypopper lose to a rogue, you clearly need to get on his level :/

I'm sorry but I can't hear you over EASILY being the best 1v1 priest. Maybe once you beat me in a 2s, your voice will reach me.

 

[Oasis]

I woke up today and played a bit of poker, then hopped on the Xbox and played some Star Ocean. After my fiancee gets home, we're going to head out to the movies and go out to eat on the town.



Any other topics youd like to talk about that are completely unrelated to the current discussion?

How is me giving an example of you saying I crutched on what you deemed as a superior 2s comp, not related to you mocking people who complain about unfair advantages?

 

[Khanodruid]

Stay on topic? Thanks. Fo sho the high skill level gathering bugged profs were definitely OP and crutched on too often.

People are calling things in this thread 'crutches' that are easily obtainable by them, yet they CHOOSE not to spend the time and effort to do so. Then they ask others to 'come down to their level' to fight on 'even ground'.

Yeah, I don't think the "twink" without AGM or LB even deserves to have a fight on his low level. People use them to win, so I suggest anyone without go get it and start winning too or don't complain. Going back to what Lindenkron said earlier, good twinks shouldn't hold back on their superiority to meet the needs of an undergeared/insufficient twink.

 

[Missboom]

Only because it was taken to an extreme. The principle is exactly the same. People are calling things in this thread 'crutches' that are easily obtainable by them, yet they CHOOSE not to spend the time and effort to do so. Then they ask others to 'come down to their level' to fight on 'even ground'.

Try getting AGM on elune... Fun stuff.

 

[Khanodruid]

Try getting AGM on elune... Fun stuff.

Try with no main Even better shit

 

[Falaris]

How is me giving an example of you saying I crutched on what you deemed as a superior 2s comp, not related to you mocking people who complain about unfair advantages?

I never said you 'crutched' on anything, is english not your first language or something? I said that Shaman/Priest should never lose to Rogue/Hunter. Its not like I was 'blaming' you for playing shaman/priest, the only thing that would be stupid is if someone bragged about beating Rogue/Hunter as Shaman/Priest, which of course you did anyway.

 

[Falaris]

I'm sorry but I can't hear you over EASILY being the best 1v1 priest. Maybe once you beat me in a 2s, your voice will reach me.

You say youre far and away the best #1 1v1 priest (lol wtf is that anyway, only 19s would say something along the lines of 'best 1v1 priest'), yet in the same thread you acknowledge that you cant beat the best rogues. Meanwhile theres another priest out there, who has definitely proven he is an elite priest, who doesnt lose to rogues. Yeah bro, your logic is irrefutable. Keep bragging about Shaman/Priest vs Rogue/Hunter lol, guess you have to get your wins somewhere.

 

[Zuty]

Zuty, I disagree with the idea that a crutch is something you randomly can have access to in game. I would want to point out it is more like something you have to use to win in a given situation, IE crutching on something. I can win without the pistol, or anything else you mentioned, but if I cannot win without using them, I would be crutching on them.

You can win without an AGM, Pistol, Travel Form, or anything. Another player having that over you does not mean they win; they just have a much greater chance of winning. Crutches aren't anything new, they sure as hell aren't limited to WoW, and they are present anywhere and you shouldn't be looked down upon for playing the game. You using a crutch doesn't mean your opponent should scoop (that's gamer term for 'give up and start over. IE. Scoop up all the cards/game pieces and start the game over.'); you still need to work for your win and having something that gives you the edge is not only part of any game, but it's a part of life.



People cry about losing and they find any reason they can to justify their lose, but as soon as that person wins they make themselves out to sound like the fucking greatest person in the world. Just play the damn game.



~Zuty

 

[Kushington]

This thread did not deserve nine pages of comments.

 

[pilgrim]

People cry about losing and they find any reason they can to justify their lose, but as soon as that person wins they make themselves out to sound like the fucking greatest person in the world. Just play the damn game.



~Zuty

Its because I am one of the greatest Fucking people in the world, ask me about it any fucking time



And eww phsycial games attract way too many gross people to be around. Knowing that that Uber nerd on vent is 5000 miles away is what enables me to keep playing. If I had to look at, or listen to their sorry selves to play, I would have to quit. :0

 

[Hotbot]

Wow, People have taken to this post well

 

[stickymitten]

Kidneypopper is damn good, so is Oasis. Nice argument yo

 

[Oasis]

You say youre far and away the best #1 1v1 priest (lol wtf is that anyway, only 19s would say something along the lines of 'best 1v1 priest'), yet in the same thread you acknowledge that you cant beat the best rogues. Meanwhile theres another priest out there, who has definitely proven he is an elite priest, who doesnt lose to rogues. Yeah bro, your logic is irrefutable. Keep bragging about Shaman/Priest vs Rogue/Hunter lol, guess you have to get your wins somewhere.

I've beaten every rogue I've encountered. What I am saying is that the rest of the "best priests" would get slaughtered by the best rogues(post lb/discovery of spirit weapons). As for that 2s, a combat specced rogue and a hunter easily have enough damage to win a few games due to the insane burst they bring(assuming you stayed on people better, and weren't popped out of stealth in each of the two valor games(I remember thinking "I bet this stupid rogue is right here"....and each time you got psychic screamed out). Anyway, KP or whoever would almost undoubtly get perfected by rogues like Zenocide or Oneshot...however, you can believe what you want.

 

[lindenkron]

Stick on topic guys.



Crutches, not who is the best PvPer/What combo is best. Such a topic could go on forever, since it's an subjective opinion. Hence why all the "Best of" threads are being deleted.



Best regards,

 

[Falaris]

I've beaten every rogue I've encountered. What I am saying is that the rest of the "best priests" would get slaughtered by the best rogues(post lb/discovery of spirit weapons). As for that 2s, a combat specced rogue and a hunter easily have enough damage to win a few games due to the insane burst they bring(assuming you stayed on people better, and weren't popped out of stealth in each of the two valor games(I remember thinking "I bet this stupid rogue is right here"....and each time you got psychic screamed out). Anyway, KP or whoever would almost undoubtly get perfected by rogues like Zenocide or Oneshot...however, you can believe what you want.

Youre right, between Psychic scream and Earthbind clearly a rogue should be able to beat through a priests HP/AGM before the CD on psychic scream/EB is back up rofl. Youre just desperate for wins 'undoubtly', so you brag over wins that are blatant countercomps.



Agree (sort of) with Link that this thread shouldve been deleted from the start.

 

[Falaris]

I've beaten every rogue I've encountered. What I am saying is that the rest of the "best priests" would get slaughtered by the best rogues(post lb/discovery of spirit weapons). As for that 2s, a combat specced rogue and a hunter easily have enough damage to win a few games due to the insane burst they bring(assuming you stayed on people better, and weren't popped out of stealth in each of the two valor games(I remember thinking "I bet this stupid rogue is right here"....and each time you got psychic screamed out). Anyway, KP or whoever would almost undoubtly get perfected by rogues like Zenocide or Oneshot...however, you can believe what you want.

19s are not suited to combat res sets. And the top handful of rogues would dominate the top handful of priests in 1v1s(without res).

Does not compute

 

[Oasis]

Youre right, between Psychic scream and Earthbind clearly a rogue should be able to beat through a priests HP/AGM before the CD on psychic scream/EB is back up rofl. Youre just desperate for wins 'undoubtly', so you brag over wins that are blatant countercomps.



Agree (sort of) with Link that this thread shouldve been deleted from the start.

I'll have to not type at 5am anymore, for fear of my undoubtedly's. Anyway, yes...hunter/rogue can rip a priest apart in a matter of seconds.

 

[ninedash]

Crutch: whatever reason the opposing player can think of as to why you won and they didn't - even though all gear/profs/enchants are available to everyone.