DDoSing revealed
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Myrm
Legend
DDOSing was against the rules of the first Twink Cup, the precedent was set there.
Donteventrii
OG
The rule being during the TC, or in 19/29 pug matches?
Apnea
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Kincaide
Legend
Speaking strictly as an outside observer, and not in any way as a representative of Twink Info, I would offer that perhaps the most important consideration for the organizers of the Twink Cup, at this point, is that their tournament is clean. If some people DDoS'ed other people in the past, in non-prize-pool games, that's one thing, and the community can deal with that as it sees fit (and it sounds like it is, so far.) But if someone DDoS'es someone else during the tournament, then and only then can the tournament be said to be corrupt, or corrupted, or whatever else you want to throw in there.
Perhaps as a yellow-name I should just steer a wide path around the whole topic, but, I just want to make a helpful suggestion to you guys that perhaps you might consider separating the issues of what people have done in the past, from the issue of what people might do in the future, specifically during the tournament. The analogy of the bank robbery is sound enough... only, in the past it was someone swiping a beer out of your fridge, let's say. You can be mad at him for that, but you can't necessarily extend from that incident that therefore, he is going to knock over this money-stuffed armored truck that's due to come around in a week. The armored truck company shouldn't necessarily be concerned over who swiped whose beer a few weeks ago, but rather be concerned with how they can keep their truck delivery secure.
Just saying, if people are mad at other people for things they've done in the past, don't necessarily jump to the punishment of barring them from the Twink Cup, or from Twink Info. Those past in-game transgressions are another matter, and I think it's going to make a mess of things to try to conflate those incidents with any real, serious fraudulent actions in the future.
Edit: I see Myrm had already replied while I was typing this, and basically said the same thing. So there's that.
Perhaps as a yellow-name I should just steer a wide path around the whole topic, but, I just want to make a helpful suggestion to you guys that perhaps you might consider separating the issues of what people have done in the past, from the issue of what people might do in the future, specifically during the tournament. The analogy of the bank robbery is sound enough... only, in the past it was someone swiping a beer out of your fridge, let's say. You can be mad at him for that, but you can't necessarily extend from that incident that therefore, he is going to knock over this money-stuffed armored truck that's due to come around in a week. The armored truck company shouldn't necessarily be concerned over who swiped whose beer a few weeks ago, but rather be concerned with how they can keep their truck delivery secure.
Just saying, if people are mad at other people for things they've done in the past, don't necessarily jump to the punishment of barring them from the Twink Cup, or from Twink Info. Those past in-game transgressions are another matter, and I think it's going to make a mess of things to try to conflate those incidents with any real, serious fraudulent actions in the future.
Edit: I see Myrm had already replied while I was typing this, and basically said the same thing. So there's that.
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imacheeser
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Looks like youre defending this cause half these guys play on your team, sucks to play with cheaters.
Kincaide
Legend
This is obviously an extremely important issue in you guys's community, and it's going to raise some very serious emotions, I understand that and I don't want to stifle this necessary dialogue y'all are having, but I will ask that everyone please, please, try to keep the language PG-13. If you can do so, then it'll be so much easier for the staff to let you have your needed discussions without stepping in and editing and stuff that we don't really want to have to do. Thanks and love.
imacheeser
Legend
Looks like HB needs new teammates, sucks playing with cheaters mate.
yet only 1 person has been doing it on the regular. gg
treess
Grandfathered
now i do not have much of a say i would guess in this, but as someone who plays most nights and have been doing 19s since vanilla, i believe that this all happened a while ago and the main people being accused are no longer participating in DDosing, Now i am a religious person and believe in the ability to repent and if they are willing to stop and it no longer happens then i really dont see the problem with them playing in the tournament as long as this doesnt keep happening.
imacheeser
Legend
Before the pole was removed I saw 17 for no and 4 for yes. So with that being said I believe the community has spoken.
Apnea
Legend
What's to say they won't keep doing it? Is there any way to verify that? Their word is good enough for you? Something about once a scumbag, always a scumbag? Sorry, this isn't The Vatican and good faith isn't going to fix things. Is there even any way to find who's done it if someone gets knocked off via DoS during the Cup games?
clarification
Legend
Why are you so eager to have them punished as soon as possible? Your posts make it look like it is your goal to hurt team HARVEST rather than to find a just solution for this problem.
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