DDoSing revealed

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Alexandriya said:
Okay. imma just put my 2 cents in on this as i'm a person of interesting in this crap. i did 1 thing. 1 and that was goof and give 1 thing out. yes i feel like an ass and such but i didnt touch anyone or anything. i havent logged into a booter. i havent even thought about it really. yes i did know the information but it was given out to many others. so i guess i'll take my fault in this.
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If I drive someone who robbed a bank, am I not guilty by association?
 
did i not say i'll take my fault in this. ofc im guilty by association. and i cant do anything about it. but i'm putting it out there that i was in it and knew about it. could i stop it? ofc not. but i did my best to not be a part of it except the 1 fuckup.
 
Donteventrii said:
In the real world, you can't enact statutes making something illegal and punish them after the incident. If you want to make that a rule going forward, then it needs to be established beforehand.

No, he shouldn't be banned from TC. Stop calling for it; it clutters the thread. If you agree, like the post that originally called for it.
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This is already illegal lol
 
Alexandriya said:
did i not say i'll take my fault in this. ofc im guilty by association. and i cant do anything about it. but i'm putting it out there that i was in it and knew about it. could i stop it? ofc not. but i did my best to not be a part of it except the 1 fuckup.
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have to say ty you actually stepped up and admit it then hats off to you .
 
My vote, if you participate with those bad kids in the sandbox you go down with those bad kids in the sandbox. you decided to be apart of that group by helping and you shouldn't be excluded alex.
 
Donteventrii said:
In the real world, you can't enact statutes making something illegal and punish them after the incident. If you want to make that a rule going forward, then it needs to be established beforehand.

No, he shouldn't be banned from TC. Stop calling for it; it clutters the thread. If you agree, like the post that originally called for it.
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While you and I are mostly amicable and usually agree, this isn't one of those times. This isn't the real world, the website doesn't follow in the steps of any modern governments or systems of law, so applying judgments based on those caveats are irrelevant. The parallel between what happens in the real world and what happens here with regard to retroactive punishment doesn't exist.

There's absolutely no sense of legality implied anywhere here whatsoever. These guys are members of the community and if the community feels they should be punished for their actions, then let it be so. They're scumbags and deserve whatever may come to them.
 
imacheeser said:
My vote, if you participate with those bad kids in the sandbox you go down with those bad kids in the sandbox. you decided to be apart of that group by helping and you shouldn't be excluded alex.
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i'm not excluded. i even SAID i was in on it.
 
Godcomplex said:
fortunately it isnt on the community to make this decision. at least if the punishment means exclusion from the twink cup.
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You mean the same community who funded the cup, the community who donated cash and time spent promoting the cup, the community who's spent time organizing and practicing to get teams together for the cup? Right.

It would be an incredible disservice to the people who helped make this possible to not be able to weigh in on any sort of action taken against the people responsible for this.
 
Godcomplex said:
90% of the community didnt fund anything. if we went by the amount of contribution then livingforce, myrm, myt and arkant had the last word and certainly not the people in this thread. the community hasnt organized anything yet in terms of the twink cup, only myrm.
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You're splitting hairs here to try and drive home some unknown and seemingly irrelevant point. The fact is that the Twink Cup is a community event, organized for the community and with a large share of help contributed by the community.
 
So, was living sharing his login info with Alex, is that how he was able to access living's acct? I'm just curious if the login info for the TI mod account was stolen, or was it given willingly.

You'd think that once TI found out that one of their mods accounts was used to harvest IP's, they would AT LEAST fucking PM all of the people mentioned by name in those conversations, to give them a warning that TI has made their personal IP available for DDoS attacks.

So many scumbags, on so many levels.
 
Shaket said:
So, was living sharing his login info with Alex, is that how he was able to access living's acct? I'm just curious if the login info for the TI mod account was stolen, or was it given willingly.

You'd think that once TI found out that one of their mods accounts was used to harvest IP's, they would AT LEAST fucking PM all of the people mentioned by name in those conversations, to give them a warning that TI has made their personal IP available for DDoS attacks.

So many scumbags, on so many levels.
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now to clear this up. i did none of this. he asked me to make his signature one night before he went to bed. i dont even know how to get ip's from this website.
inwhich he changed his info when he woke up the next day.
 
Godcomplex said:
90% of the community didnt fund anything. if we went by the amount of contribution then livingforce, myrm, myt and arkant had the last word and certainly not the people in this thread. the community hasnt organized anything yet in terms of the twink cup, only myrm.

also last i checked one of the offenders made a major contribution to the prize pool.
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So tell him to take his money and shove it where the sun does not shine. Otherwise the tournament is corrupt.
 
Any fucking cunt that wants to take shots at my niggas gonna have to come through me, if i dont tear you to shreds the auzzies will!

Yo... but for real though idk why this is big news to anyone... this has been brought up about 2-3 weeks ago, i even made a public podcast about what has happened in the 19 community involving ddos. The only player to my knowledge that continuously hits people offline at this point is Barb, and people should not be talking out of their ass if they are not informed
 
Apnea said:
The parallel between what happens in the real world and what happens here with regard to retroactive punishment doesn't exist.
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There is a parallel. However, we can explore it a bit more if you don't see the connection. The rule of law stems from the social contract. You draw your conclusion that they broke the social contract of the community. In that vein, you still can't inact retroactive penalties for breaking the social contract if there is no precedent action > consequence established.

Apnea said:
It would be an incredible disservice to the people who helped make this possible to not be able to weigh in on any sort of action taken against the people responsible for this.
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What have the bandwagon haters done this far?
What if you were LF, MYT, or Arkant and wanted to play with Skeezin. If the community wanted to ban him, wouldn't you want your money back?
 
I think this is an issue that will be best handled collaboratively by the community. The information is now out and people can make informed decisions about who they want to associate with. Each person accused is free to make their case as Alex has, and if their crimes are too heinous to be forgiven in the eyes of the community then it should be the community collectively that decides to exclude them. I don't like seeing people get DDOSd, I wish people would stop doing it, but I don't think it's right for me to act as arbiter in this case. The community needs to set its own standards and enforce them collectively.
 
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