My logic is that the rules we're playing with is the same as the rules in RBGs and Arenas, last I checked there was no restriction on racials or gear, but there is on consumables. This is as simple as I can make it for you. My original standing was that RBGs and Arenas are see as the greatest demonstration of skill in WoW when it comes too pvp, so why allow something that isn't used in those settings? There is an obvious reason these things are banned there, and why they shouldn't be banned in a mirroring game type of RBGs is beyond me.
There is more than just those two reasons, and as an example I'll say mine. I want the competitive type of games found in endgame pvp, in the lower level brackets. I have my 85s, I have Arenas and RBGs on them, I see no reason not to extend that level of play into another bracket. I'm not expecting everyone to agree to these rules, these are simply justifications as to why we ban specific consumables. I would love to hear debates about how people think something like minor magical resistance potions should be allowed.
The 20-24 bracket is like any other twink bracket, it's going to change, people are going to come in looking for challenging games, and we'll be there. Finding people to premade is not a concern of mine, there will always be someone to play. I have no intention of leaving this bracket anytime soon, in fact my goal is to invite more people from other brackets, 19s, 70s, etc., to make either 20s or 24s, and make it so the competition isn't as stale as it is atm.
Well, thats all well and dandy Kratos. What you still dont understand is that twinking is VERY different to RBGing and Arenas. ITS NOT LEVEL 85, ITS LEVEL 24!! Firstly, lets go though what you have very neatly and intelligently said my learned friend. You stated in your first paragraph that racials can be used in RBGs and certain consumables are not and how RBGs are the greatest example of skill in PvP. Again, 24 twinks DO NOT do Rated Battlegrounds!! There is nothing you can do to change that! Even if you tried your little elitist heart out.
Your second paragraph states how you want the "competitaveness" of high end RBGs etc. in the lower brackets. Why? You said you have your 85s and you do PvP on them so why do you want to drag all of that down to a low level bracket? Then you say that it is a justification on why your "guild" or should I say small group of microphallus players (you might wanna google that one) can ban the use of consumables in your 5v5s. Nobody will ever comply with your stupid restricting rules. Playing a twink is all about having fun, pwning higher levels and noobs, and TO GET AWAY FROM THE END GAME. Also at 85 characters have DOZENS more abilities and CC's to use. In the 24s only a handfull have remotely similar utility.
Your third paragraph stated that the 24 bracket will always change. Who are you? Barack Obama? You then say people are GOING to look for competitive games. There is a HUGE difference between competitive and fun. Once people join your guild they are likely to leave a) because of lack of activity
b) you don't help your fellow guildies in any way, shape or form
c) You make your guild seem so awesome when it really has under 20 members, 2 of which log on once a day. The rest are nowhere to be found.
Finding people to premade should be a concern of yours mate, after all aren't you a premade guild? Oh, that's right you're too good to look for games, you'll just let the lower guilds beg you to even set foot in the same bg. Furthermore, there will be hardly anybody for your guild to play because anyone with a right mind will see how dodgy this guild can be.
You then go on about inviting other people from other brackets. the 19 bracket is sooooo f*cked right now because of guilds like controlled consumables. Just look around on TI. The 70 bracket is slowly dieing out and with the release of MoP it will become the most unbalenced bracket we will ever see for example, in MoP, ele shamans can crit for 17k at level 70. Thats a one shot.
In your last sentence you comented on how stale the 24 bracket is. It is only stale because of guilds like you putting rediculous rules in their games in order to gain the edge. If you want to do premades against other guilds, play by their rules, play fair, and have fun.
This is why Controlled Chaos putting rules on bging is total BS and has to stop.
Broken please dont delete this post as it is on topic, it is a reply to Kraptos' post
Love ya bro <3
