EU+US Class Trinkets

The only thing we know for certain is that Blizz hasn't confirm that they no longer drop. However, we DO know that the "near guaranteed" loot drop that you used to create the Class Trinket no longer drops. The actual Trinkets themselves are still on his loot table but at an amazing 0.12-0.46% drop rate or close to it. That means you could farm it weekly on (12) Toons for all of Legion an still never see one drop.
 
DeLindsay said:
The only thing we know for certain is that Blizz hasn't confirm that they no longer drop. However, we DO know that the "near guaranteed" loot drop that you used to create the Class Trinket no longer drops. The actual Trinkets themselves are still on his loot table but at an amazing 0.12-0.46% drop rate or close to it. That means you could farm it weekly on (12) Toons for all of Legion an still never see one drop.
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I was reading some comments about this. One guy said the actual trinkets never dropped from the boss, they always came from the token. Was that the case or no?
 
norcal313 said:
In WoD it was a token.
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This. But meow, it's suspected it comes from bonus roll. However it was likely patched/ very low drop chance. It's pretty much like relics. So rare that we can't be sure if they are removed or not
 
Veechard said:
This. But meow, it's suspected it comes from bonus roll. However it was likely patched/ very low drop chance. It's pretty much like relics. So rare that we can't be sure if they are removed or not
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So it was only available from the token before and now you guys think they removed the token and patched in a very low drop chance? Just because of the wowhead % you are seeing?
 
Hashbrowns said:
So it was only available from the token before and now you guys think they removed the token and patched in a very low drop chance? Just because of the wowhead % you are seeing?
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They are listed as 2 different ID's. The ones from the Token aren't the same Game ID as the ones via low drop %. That means it's highly likely Blizz did in fact add them when removing the Token.
 
DeLindsay said:
They are listed as 2 different ID's. The ones from the Token aren't the same Game ID as the ones via low drop %. That means it's highly likely Blizz did in fact add them when removing the Token.
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Can you get me those item IDs?
I'm digging in the API now, for http://www.wowhead.com/item=124514/seed-of-creation it says :

"itemSource": {
"sourceId": 70443,
"sourceType": "VENDOR"
},

This looks like the token one.
 
I'll post the whole thing, looks like they have a chance at a socket, which is pretty cool

{
"id": 124514,
"disenchantingSkillRank": 0,
"description": "",
"name": "Seed of Creation",
"icon": "inv_farm_herbseed",
"stackable": 1,
"allowableClasses": [11],
"itemBind": 1,
"bonusStats": [],
"itemSpells": [{
"spellId": 184876,
"spell": {
"id": 184876,
"name": "Starshards",
"icon": "inv_misc_eye_04",
"description": "Starsurge has a ^0.0800% chance to also trigger Starfall.",
"castTime": "Passive"
},
"nCharges": 0,
"consumable": false,
"categoryId": 0,
"trigger": "ON_EQUIP"
}, {
"spellId": 184877,
"spell": {
"id": 184877,
"name": "Wildcat Celerity",
"icon": "inv_misc_eye_04",
"description": "Increases the duration of Tiger's Fury and Berserk by ^0.2066%.",
"castTime": "Passive"
},
"nCharges": 0,
"consumable": false,
"categoryId": 0,
"trigger": "ON_EQUIP"
}, {
"spellId": 184878,
"spell": {
"id": 184878,
"name": "Stalwart Guardian",
"icon": "inv_misc_eye_04",
"description": "All damage received is reduced by 7 (increased by Attack Power). All damage prevented this way is dealt back to the attacker as Nature damage. This effect cannot absorb more than ^0.0090% of an attack.",
"castTime": "Passive"
},
"nCharges": 0,
"consumable": false,
"categoryId": 0,
"trigger": "ON_EQUIP"
}, {
"spellId": 184879,
"spell": {
"id": 184879,
"name": "Flourish",
"icon": "inv_misc_eye_04",
"description": "Your Rejuvenation and Lifebloom ticks have a ^0.0082% chance to also heal other allies within 15 yds.",
"castTime": "Passive"
},
"nCharges": 0,
"consumable": false,
"categoryId": 0,
"trigger": "ON_EQUIP"
}],
"buyPrice": 1866858,
"itemClass": 4,
"itemSubClass": 0,
"containerSlots": 0,
"inventoryType": 12,
"equippable": true,
"itemLevel": 690,
"maxCount": 0,
"maxDurability": 0,
"minFactionId": 0,
"minReputation": 0,
"quality": 4,
"sellPrice": 373371,
"requiredSkill": 0,
"requiredLevel": 100,
"requiredSkillRank": 0,
"itemSource": {
"sourceId": 70443,
"sourceType": "VENDOR"
},
"baseArmor": 0,
"hasSockets": false,
"isAuctionable": false,
"armor": 0,
"displayInfoId": 0,
"nameDescription": "",
"nameDescriptionColor": "000000",
"upgradable": true,
"heroicTooltip": false,
"context": "raid-normal",
"bonusLists": [1801],
"availableContexts": ["raid-normal", "raid-heroic", "raid-mythic"],
"bonusSummary": {
"defaultBonusLists": [1801],
"chanceBonusLists": [563, 40, 41, 42],
"bonusChances": [{
"chanceType": "STAT",
"stats": [{
"statId": "61",
"delta": 125
}, {
"statId": "62",
"delta": 125
}, {
"statId": "63",
"delta": 125
}],
"sockets": []
}, {
"chanceType": "SOCKET",
"stats": [],
"sockets": [{
"socketType": "PRISMATIC"
}]
}]
},
"artifactId": 0
}
 
I personally deal with the HFC Class Trinkets and the 810 101 Relics the same way. I simply don't worry about them and treat them as they're not obtainable anymore. Sure, it may show they have a drop source and drop rate but nobody ever says they've received one. If they do say they've received one, proof is never shown... so you just have to take their word for it, lol. I'm a strong believer in proof before trust. :)
 
I think it's safe to say they don't drop anymore. With how long Legion has been out and how many HFC mythic clears that must happen each week, we would've seen at least 1 trinket drop by now, either for a twink or a 110 in the raid with them, even with ridiculously low chances.
 
While I also am suspicious about how low the droprate is, I also haven't seen any confirmation on the mount drops, nor have I seen a mount drop myself since Legion launch.
 
Stale said:
While I also am suspicious about how low the droprate is, I also haven't seen any confirmation on the mount drops, nor have I seen a mount drop myself since Legion launch.
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I've seen the Mythic Blackhand mount drop once since Legion launch, now for the Mythic archimonde mount, I haven't seen that one drop.
 
Would anyone be down to try some personal loot runs?? I get that most groups go group loot cause it's 100x better but maybe for just arch try personal loot.. I'm just thinking maybe it's gated behide that for some odd reason.. maybe I could get a couple of mains to run it to arch and than keep lock outs 1 person stays with the lock out and others hop of twinks that just need arch.. it's worth a shot to maybe killing arch about 10 twinks within the hour due to many lock outs to try and see if we can get one of these bad boys to drop
 
jbrooks123 said:
Would anyone be down to try some personal loot runs?? I get that most groups go group loot cause it's 100x better but maybe for just arch try personal loot.. I'm just thinking maybe it's gated behide that for some odd reason.. maybe I could get a couple of mains to run it to arch and than keep lock outs 1 person stays with the lock out and others hop of twinks that just need arch.. it's worth a shot to maybe killing arch about 10 twinks within the hour due to many lock outs to try and see if we can get one of these bad boys to drop
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I've been in a few runs where the leader refused to take it off of personal loot and also they were the type of leader to invite anyone who queued, so naturally we ended up with 20 people every time >_>. Still, no trinkets were seen.
 
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