Tom Ganks
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Still waiting for conclusive evidence for or against the existence of a toothfairy, lemme know if anyone finds anything.
Church is pointless.
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Conq
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My parents told me it was really them putting the money under my pillow, maybe they were lying to me.
Druiddroid
OG
You're going through the same teenage phase I did, even since then I haven't become more religious, but I do respect religion more and more. You will too, someday. I know you don't believe it now, but it's not full of idiots.
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Vitor Belfort '97 hand speed
Jesus Christ! How has this thread made it past page 1?! I suppose I'm not 100% innocent here, but I digress.
Okay, so, basically Richard Dawkins nailed it. He's on record saying something along the lines of "God has the same status as fairies." We can't 100% disprove either of those two, but we can be 99.99% sure, neither of them exist." There is no compelling evidence in favor of any religion. With that said, while I tend to lean more toward the agnostic side of the argument (because I'm aware that identifying as technically agnostic, sounds like the most reasonable choice), if you actually do believe in some kind of deity, I automatically respect you 3% less for being a silly goose. Same goes for if you choose to smoke. I can't get over that. In my opinion they're both harmful crutches.
Okay, so, basically Richard Dawkins nailed it. He's on record saying something along the lines of "God has the same status as fairies." We can't 100% disprove either of those two, but we can be 99.99% sure, neither of them exist." There is no compelling evidence in favor of any religion. With that said, while I tend to lean more toward the agnostic side of the argument (because I'm aware that identifying as technically agnostic, sounds like the most reasonable choice), if you actually do believe in some kind of deity, I automatically respect you 3% less for being a silly goose. Same goes for if you choose to smoke. I can't get over that. In my opinion they're both harmful crutches.
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Conq
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What if you just smoke Cigarettes once in a while?
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Vitor Belfort '97 hand speed
I suppose you get a bit of a pass for at least using something in moderation, versus being a full-blown dependent. Still, I would ask that you don't. But, I'm not your mom.
Conq
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Yeah I only do it on occasion now tbh, smoked for about 10 years off and on, quitting was so easy for me, whenever I wouldn't have one it wouldn't even cross my mind until it was in my environment.
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Vitor Belfort '97 hand speed
I have sort of the same relationship with junk food. I'll cut it from my diet, then I'll randomly see a package of Chips Ahoy! taunting my taste buds for a few seconds of mouth pleasure. The binge will only last a few days til I realize I'm going a bit off the rails, and acting undisciplined.
Conq
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I feel like i just read my life summarized in a few sentences.
icehawk
The Beast Within
'Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.' [Hebrews 11:1]
'For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities - his eternal power and divine nature - have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.' [Romans 1:20]
spewfeel
Groote Eylandt
How did you deduce that the bible is true? and not the Quran or Bhagavad Gita?
Do you follow your Gods commands word for word?, if so how do you morally deal with;
[Exodus 21:20-21]
“Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.
Do you follow your Gods commands word for word?, if so how do you morally deal with;
[Exodus 21:20-21]
“Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.
Druiddroid
OG
It's about living through Jesus, you have to have faith in order to do so. You don't deduce what is objectively true, you live your life for Jesus. It's a belief and a lifestyle, not a fact. Same for any religion.
icehawk
The Beast Within
I try my best to follow all of God's commands. This world we live in makes it difficult though and we all fail at various times, but I try to do the best I can. Jesus made it so simple for us :-
'The entire law is summed up in a single command: "Love your neighbour as yourself."' [Galatians 5:14]
See, everyone gets hung up on all the various laws and commands that God set out in days gone by. But what it showed humanity was that we were not able to meet God's righteous and holy requirements. We all fall short. And then like sticklers we all get caught up in every little detail. This is exactly how Israel was 2,000 years ago. The Jews were arguing over all the little matters in the law and they missed the entire purpose of why God set the law up in the first place which was to simply love one another. They had missed the simplicity of God's requirements which was to love one another. That is why when Jesus came, He not only fulfilled all the requirements of the law He showed us what love was, even to the point of sacrificing His earthly life to save us. No greater love has a man than to lay down his life for another.
'"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.' [John 3:16]
And, just to answer your question about the law on slaves you quoted from Exodus, if you love your neighbour you wouldn't beat a slave in the first place. Back when Exodus was written, slaves were part of every day life in most cultures of the time so it was dealing with the sinful nature of harsh masters. To be honest there are probably some places in the world today that still endorse slavery
. On the topic of slavery it is also written :-'Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not men, because you know that the Lord will reward everyone for whatever good he does, whether he is slave or free. And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favouritism with him.' [Ephesians 6:7-9]
You treat any man as you would yourself. Didn't Jesus say do onto others as yourself? If that's true, then do you like to be beaten with a rod? Answer that question and you'll know how the master was to treat the slave.
Problem we have is man abuses power and authority.
telle
fella
...And, just to answer your question about the law on slaves you quoted from Exodus, if you love your neighbour you wouldn't beat a slave in the first place. Back when Exodus was written, slaves were part of every day life in most cultures of the time so it was dealing with the sinful nature of harsh masters. To be honest there are probably some places in the world today that still endorse slavery
'Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not men, because you know that the Lord will reward everyone for whatever good he does, whether he is slave or free. And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favouritism with him.' [Ephesians 6:7-9]
You treat any man as you would yourself. Didn't Jesus say do onto others as yourself? If that's true, then do you like to be beaten with a rod? Answer that question and you'll know how the master was to treat the slave.
Problem we have is man abuses power and authority.
I think you may have missed his point...
Shaket
Legend
18 minutes for the summons, not bad. Probs would have been faster if you'd said the name 3 times. Still, made for a nice segue.
Tom Ganks
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A moment of silence for all of the time people are spending researching bible verses only to have them skipped over.
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Vitor Belfort '97 hand speed
Damn. You are deep. But on the real tho, keep my name out yo mouth. I'll send my goons after you, punk.
Conq
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Srs
Legend
Sure, but a faith based on Pascal's Wager is no faith at all — its just hedging your bets — and just another form of "fence sitting". So to say one believes in God, while at the same doubting His very existence, much less his son's, and the veracity of the very book that would prove his existence, seems very wrong.
This is where I'm at. Now, I still feel like there's room for doubt in a believer (many of the great philosophers were Christian). That is, doubt does not necessarily make one a non-believer. However, I feel like there should be some seed of faith that is more than just a "Meh. I guess in theory, he could exist, so why not believe?".
I'm still waiting for the One True God to fill me up with the spirit, but so far, nothing.
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Zuro
Somalian Pirate Crew
Wow.. get ur definitions from spewfeel please, hes right. The ignorance on the topic of proof and atheism is astounding. I am sorry you were probably raised a christian and ur still not seeing the truth... I am a lifelong atheist, but I'm sure you will claim babies are agnostics. the worst argument... prove god doesn't exist. It instantly becomes crystal clear what your problem is. You haven't been thinking hard, and I'm sure you're still biased towards the religious pov. I have no proof of my superpower to magically change people's minds over the internet, to not believe in it would be illogical, same goes for all my other superpowers like teleportation... Hmm it's a 50/50 who knows, can you prove I can't change your mind?
Maybe not today,
Tomorow perhaps
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One question to @Conq yes or no
Do you believe that god exists?
Not what you know, what you believe.
Maybe not today,
Tomorow perhaps
The day after
Next week
One question to @Conq yes or no
Do you believe that god exists?
Not what you know, what you believe.
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