Censorship and Butthurt needs to stop

Trialmop · Sep 10, 2015

Myrm said:
I value freedom of speech and information very highly, but I really don't know where this idea that respect and decency is some modern liberal "politically correct" concept comes from. Back in the "good old days" of medieval England you'd be ostracized from your community if you weren't considered "neighborly" enough, and old germanic tribes used to fine people heavily for insulting another man's honor and in many circumstances it was legal to kill someone if they disrespected you. I think the moral degradation of society should be just as concerning to a conservative minded person as any NWO "political correctness" agenda.

The only moderation that I've personally done was to try to clean up the site to apply for adsense, which I've since given up on, to remove midget porn from someone's avatar, and banning someone for 3 days for bumping about a dozen threads that were years old without adding anything constructive. I do agree that some of the moderation has been heavy-handed recently, but I also think some people are abusing the lax policies and that certain areas of the site have gotten out of control. A lot of the time people report people that they're arguing with, there's hostility and insults on both sides so the whole argument gets deleted, then people complain about censorship or biased mods. It seems more like some of you are unhappy that the mods aren't biased.

I have a lot of respect for you [MENTION=9433]Solipsist[/MENTION] but it's almost comical how you're trying to paint yourself as some type of persecuted political dissident because your burn book got deleted. You're not Edward Snowden, you were acting like a gossipy highschool bitch. I agree that competition, banter, rivalries, and even a degree of hostility is healthy, but the purpose of this forum shouldn't be to reenact the movie Mean Girls. And Sketchbag please explain how Mocha's "vendetta" against you had anything to do with you getting an infraction for telling someone to cut themselves.

I think the best way to change behavior isn't through force but incentives, integration, and recognition of an individual's skills and value to the community. I'm sorry that some of the plans for the site are moving slowly, but there have been some pretty major setbacks that are going to make some of my initial goals difficult. If you're lashing out because you're frustrated just know that I'm also frustrated and I'm doing my best to ensure that we all get our place in the sun.

In the future I'm going to ask that moderators don't take action unless there has been a report or a serious violation, ie pornography, personal information, scams, private servers, etc. Profanity itself should not be a reason for deletions or infractions unless it is very excessive.

Took a 12 page thread lol but was worth the answer. Didn't know what all the drama was really about.

imacheeser · Sep 10, 2015

okay lemme be honest ive gotten several of my threads and post removed because I was hurtful, obnoxious, and whatever bullshit. aka laurasia and cipe when I wasn't even being hurtful or obnoxious. I was simply stating the truth about something. Then I get /spit on by cipe who is a moderator and I promise you if I /spit any moderator my post would get removed. All the mods are power hungry and honestly its way passed censorship. They just want the ability to have control over someone else. Its like they are pigs, I mean police officers, they just the thrill to control people. Its honestly insane if anything you should get rid of the current mods, make them plebs because they are plebs.

Remove all the swine. ALL OF THEM!

So in other words, I completely agree, superstylin, cipe, laurasia, roboartist, and more need to be moved completely. The only people saying they shouldn't be removed are mods/admins because we all know pigs take care of their own. I mean look at what super just said, an admin isn't suppose to talk and act in that type of manner and he just went off on solipsist for stating his opinion I mean really?

Please give them the D we don't need em!

Conq · Sep 10, 2015

imacheeser said:
okay lemme be honest ive gotten several of my threads and post removed because I was hurtful, obnoxious, and whatever bullshit. aka laurasia and cipe when I wasn't even being hurtful or obnoxious. I was simply stating the truth about something. Then I get /spit on by cipe who is a moderator and I promise you if I /spit any moderator my post would get removed. All the mods are power hungry and honestly its way passed censorship. They just want the ability to have control over someone else. Its like they are pigs, I mean police officers, they just the thrill to control people. Its honestly insane if anything you should get rid of the current mods, make them plebs because they are plebs.

Remove all the swine. ALL OF THEM!

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Ginn · Sep 10, 2015

Myrm said:
I value freedom of speech and information very highly, but I really don't know where this idea that respect and decency is some modern liberal "politically correct" concept comes from. Back in the "good old days" of medieval England you'd be ostracized from your community if you weren't considered "neighborly" enough, and old germanic tribes used to fine people heavily for insulting another man's honor and in many circumstances it was legal to kill someone if they disrespected you. I think the moral degradation of society should be just as concerning to a conservative minded person as any NWO "political correctness" agenda.

The only moderation that I've personally done was to try to clean up the site to apply for adsense, which I've since given up on, to remove midget porn from someone's avatar, and banning someone for 3 days for bumping about a dozen threads that were years old without adding anything constructive. I do agree that some of the moderation has been heavy-handed recently, but I also think some people are abusing the lax policies and that certain areas of the site have gotten out of control. A lot of the time people report people that they're arguing with, there's hostility and insults on both sides so the whole argument gets deleted, then people complain about censorship or biased mods. It seems more like some of you are unhappy that the mods aren't biased.

I have a lot of respect for you [MENTION=9433]Solipsist[/MENTION] but it's almost comical how you're trying to paint yourself as some type of persecuted political dissident because your burn book got deleted. You're not Edward Snowden, you were acting like a gossipy highschool bitch. I agree that competition, banter, rivalries, and even a degree of hostility is healthy, but the purpose of this forum shouldn't be to reenact the movie Mean Girls. And Sketchbag please explain how Mocha's "vendetta" against you had anything to do with you getting an infraction for telling someone to cut themselves.

I think the best way to change behavior isn't through force but incentives, integration, and recognition of an individual's skills and value to the community. I'm sorry that some of the plans for the site are moving slowly, but there have been some pretty major setbacks that are going to make some of my initial goals difficult. If you're lashing out because you're frustrated just know that I'm also frustrated and I'm doing my best to ensure that we all get our place in the sun.

In the future I'm going to ask that moderators don't take action unless there has been a report or a serious violation, ie pornography, personal information, scams, private servers, etc. Profanity itself should not be a reason for deletions or infractions unless it is very excessive.

To be completely honest Myrm... Not everyone in the twink community grew up in the Stone Age.
Times have changed and this site should also.
Who cares what people have to say over the internet... What ever happened to freedom of speech?
Honestly if someone wants to post their opinion on a website, Why should it get removed when the moderators could post the exact same thing with no conflicts..
These moderators need to stop being power hungry and just play the stupid game like everyone else.

imacheeser · Sep 10, 2015

Solipsist

I think your opinion is an excellent one and im completely on board with what youre saying! ive been a victim of mod/admin misconduct on several occasions and nothing in return happens to them. Im glad youre sheading light on this very serious situation! you got a solider fighting with you!

Ginn · Sep 10, 2015

This website isnt the Judicial System... Its a website about "Twinks" in a computer game...
No offense towards you Myrm, but honestly let the people post what they want.
And tell your moderators to stop trying to be hard asses over the internet.

#IRestMyCase

Jamesb · Sep 10, 2015

Agreeing with Ginn. Mocha gave me an infraction for saying bitch. It's fucking retarded.

Conq · Sep 10, 2015

I mean i'd prefer not to have this site resemble 4chan

imacheeser · Sep 10, 2015

Superstylin said:
My god, you incompetent little shit. Do you have any idea how forums are run? Go to any other WoW related forum and look at how their communities are. The only reason why there is "censorship" here is because of the incredible amount of immaturity of the users on this forum. It really is astounding. The staff's goal is to keep the forums clean and adhere to the rules of the CoC. The rules are set in place to keep a tame atmosphere to promote forum growth and create a welcoming environment. This in turn will hopefully help the forum stay active and grow, which is the ultimate goal.

I'm actually surprised that this thread was created, by yourself none the less. You created a twink ranking thread not too long ago appointing random terms to people, such as "Mangina", faggot, and cunt for ranks. I honestly don't know what the fuck is wrong with you. Do you actually have no understanding what a forum is, and what its purpose is??

I wouldn't mind this forum being a free for all, so I could fucking lay some of these pathetic nerds in their rightful place, but for now there is a CoC(k) that we must all follow.

p.s. I'm generally ok with the use of profanity to get a point across, but the excessive use of it and the use of it directed at other members is not tolerated. I'm also not sure why there has been excessive use of censorship on this site, as I have been gone for the past bit, but hopefully I'll talk to a few of the mods and sort things out.

Hes an admin and weve all gotten infractions for cursing, threads removed for being obnoxious or hurtful, and hes suppose to be held to a higher standard. This is a prime example on why TI has awful mods/admins....GG NO RE

Ginn · Sep 10, 2015

Conq said:
I mean i'd prefer not to have this site resemble 4chan

1st off i have no clue what u mean by 4chan.....
2nd off honestly websites with forums are meant for people to talk shit on each other... Thats the way society works these days

Adapt to it or your gunna have a bad time

Conq · Sep 10, 2015

Ginn said:
1st off i have no clue what u mean by 4chan.....
2nd off honestly websites with forums are meant for people to talk shit on each other... Thats the way society works these days

Adapt to it or your gunna have a bad time

I think you will find that no one complains about my ability to adapt or accuses me of over moderation with any seriousness.

4chan is a site were anything goes, check it out some time. I suggest the /b/ forum if you want the most authentic example.

Ginn · Sep 10, 2015

You guys take this shit way to seriously...
Its a website about World of Warcraft... not a website about the US government...
Even Wikipedia lets you swear... WTF is this

Conq · Sep 10, 2015

Ginn said:
You guys take this shit way to seriously...
Its a website about World of Warcraft... not a website about the US government...
Even Wikipedia lets you swear... WTF is this

No one here is prohibiting swearing at this point unless its extremely excessive, that should have been the case since Myrm got here, watch.

Fuck.

imacheeser · Sep 10, 2015

I make a poll to remove turtle as bracket manager and I get called obnoxious so my thread is removed. I didn't even curse. I just think that some mods/admins take sides and show favoritism towards others and don't give a fuck about the rest of the community. I mean the poll on this thread just recently got removed. I mean if you aren't a mod or an admin you cant get away with anything, but if you are a mod or an admin you can say and do whatever the fuck you want. I say let them all pack sand. GG no RE

Ginn · Sep 10, 2015

Conq said:
No one here is prohibiting swearing at this point unless its extremely excessive, watch.

Fuck.

lol your a moderator... of course you can do what you want and swear when you want with no conflicts...
guarentee my posted are gone by tomorrow and you sayin fuck will still be there

Yde · Sep 10, 2015

Stahp, I'll be like capped again, this is hilarious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8ukak8P2vY

EDIT:

Ginn said:
lol your a moderator... of course you can do what you want and swear when you want with no conflicts...
guarentee my posted are gone by tomorrow and you sayin fuck will still be there

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