BLACK MAGIC for horde rogue! OP OP OP!

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glancealot

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BLACK MAGIC IS PROVEN TO PROC VERY OFTEN BY ONE OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, SO GET IT AND ENJOY IT BEFORE IT GETS NERFED



just to put it into perspective of how OP black magic is at 49.



legendary set bonus:



it's a proc of about the same proc chance, 10 second MORE internal cool down (45 seconds vs black magic's 35 seconds), and it means 28.53% speed increase at 70 (well, you gotta be at least 70 to use the set).



yet at 49, all we need is to put blackmagic on offhand, we will get a 31.7% speed increase when it procs, which is better than the legendary set bonus, and it will be up more often because of a shorter internal cool down.



so i was replying to drayner's thread and i was linking black magic from wowhead and i noticed something in the comments...



quoted from wowhead:



I'm currently using this on 3rd dagger on my rogue, it procs from poisons in 1 second and has 35second cooldown. Possibly new use for weapon swap addon? im currently just using 2 weapon swap macros to proc this and continue with 2 berserkings.

edit: this effect only procs from 1 weapon when having 2 black magics



so basically...if you put black magic on this or this and use it as an offhand, and your poison procs from your offhand will trigger the 10 second long godly 250 haste proc every 35 seconds...



THIS. IS. INSANE.



to explain 250 haste rating in english:



that's equivalent to 32% faster attacking speed. meaning:



if you hemo with thrash



your mainhand attacking speed will drop from 2.7 to 2.05...
 
to explain 250 haste rating in english:



that's equivalent to 32% faster attacking speed. meaning:



if you hemo with thrash



your mainhand attacking speed will drop from 2.7 to 2.05...
 
ok, i made up my mind, if they ever fix twink queues, i am transferring my 49 rogue to horde because this enchant is too godly to not have!!!
 
Triple-post. Skillful. Anyhow, if you feel that it's worth not having 65AP or Berserking on it, it up to you :)
 
Tetrica said:
Triple-post. Skillful. Anyhow, if you feel that it's worth not having 65AP or Berserking on it, it up to you :)
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people that put 65AP on those weapons can't think straight.
 
Sparhawk said:
move to ruin, they're active again
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not gonna spend $25+$30 just to be able to play once a week...
 
+65 AP is the highest attack power you can stack on an OH, unless something's changed since I've been gone.



Berzerking just plain sucks proc wise.
 
No, 65 AP is indeed the highest OH AP. For a Rogue, you get 42 from a Monkey Ribby, 46 from an Agi Ribby.
 
Alkaholic said:
Any explanation of why Black Magic on a rogue offhand which has less chance to proc for haste is a good thing?
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from what i read on wowhead, the up time is almost 100% (when it's not on internal cool down)
 
Taitaih said:
In PvE... sure this would (probably) work.



In PvP... hell no.
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so mongoose works in 40-49 pvp, yet this enchant that procs more, gives you 32% faster attacking speed, in a bracket where rogues switch to thrash blade and spam hemo when they can't ambush/5 point evis, doesn't work.



nvm, looking at your 80 rogue i now understand how much you know about the rogue class...
 
Have fun with 2 x internal cd from first switching to that weapon and then back again. Also TI got a edit function on post's, use it.
 
glancealot said:
so mongoose works in 40-49 pvp, yet this enchant that procs more, gives you 32% faster attacking speed, in a bracket where rogues switch to thrash blade and spam hemo when they can't ambush/5 point evis, doesn't work.



nvm, looking at your 80 rogue i now understand how much you know about the rogue class...
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I'd love to hear what you gleaned from my armory that would allow you to assume as you always do.
 
Ur lock has a 77% win ratio in WSG, FAIL, u should have @ least 80% if u're any good.



Ur rogue has only won 70% of ur WSGs and return 3 flags/game compared to the great Glancelot's 64% WSG win ratio and 1.9 flag/game. Oh wait...



LOL @ using haste in PvP at 49, what are u gonna do, auto attack them to death?
 
A 50% win ratio would be ideal because it would show that most games have been evenly matched which could also mean high quality games too.
 
if the proc chance is indeed that high (assuming using crippling on offhand), you get a 30% speed boost every 35 seconds, this would be hands down the most OP enchant in 40-49.



however, i need someone to test out the proc chance to see if it does indeed "always proc within one second of attacking".
 
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