BLACK MAGIC for horde rogue! OP OP OP!
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glancealot
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Alkaholic said:
when did i comment negatively about his 49 lock?
his rogue tho, 1 cap every 13 games is quite bad, it makes it even worse that he played probably 80% of those 88 games as a 75+ semi-twink.
and the fact that he only assaulted only 22 flags in (at least) 15 AB games as a rogue.
i would say my 64.27% winning ratio as a 70 weighs more than his 70.45% as a 75+ twink. and on top of everything, his rogue is poorly geared considering that he hit 80 about 2 month ago.
glancealot
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this guy is what i consider a skilled player, (yes he is a hunter but if he played a rogue, i would expect his flag return to double and his flag capture to drop, and his winning ratio to drop also):
Warsong Gulch flags captured 1400
Warsong Gulch flags returned 1648
Warsong Gulch battles 1509
Warsong Gulch victories 1244
Warsong Gulch flags captured 1400
Warsong Gulch flags returned 1648
Warsong Gulch battles 1509
Warsong Gulch victories 1244
Taitaih
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You assume that I actually play my rogue at 80... which is a very poor assumption since my twinks are pretty much geared to the teeth, I'd have just an easy of a time gearing my rogue at 80 if I wanted to. I think your so called logic is failing at the moment.
I started BGing at 71 in the bracket and continued all the way to 80. Didn't play that many ABs, but I did AV quite a bit and WSG the most. Why exactly would I be inclined to attempt to capture a flag in WSG when prot warriors, paladins, and druids are common in the bracket and I actually play my PROPER objective, which is locking down healers and killing flag carriers when their healers are down. I excel at it, and I'll let the people with tank gear handle the flags.
By my win ratio and the fact that I returned a huge chunk of flags, I think that my method is doing just fine. You can fault my fail 80 gear all you want, but I'm still hit capped for raids (actually over hit for raids), and expertise capped as well.
Keep making all the assumptions you want, I was rocking 70-79s at level 71 in questing blues.
I started BGing at 71 in the bracket and continued all the way to 80. Didn't play that many ABs, but I did AV quite a bit and WSG the most. Why exactly would I be inclined to attempt to capture a flag in WSG when prot warriors, paladins, and druids are common in the bracket and I actually play my PROPER objective, which is locking down healers and killing flag carriers when their healers are down. I excel at it, and I'll let the people with tank gear handle the flags.
By my win ratio and the fact that I returned a huge chunk of flags, I think that my method is doing just fine. You can fault my fail 80 gear all you want, but I'm still hit capped for raids (actually over hit for raids), and expertise capped as well.
Keep making all the assumptions you want, I was rocking 70-79s at level 71 in questing blues.
Alkaholic
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So even though he had 3 flag returns every game, which any sane person would conclude that he was on the EFC most games, it's irrelevant? Where did u deduce that he played a semi twink?glancealot said:
U do realize that rogues have more than one task right? The can assault flags or they can just kill people assaulting the flag. I'd really like to see ur "RULES TO A GOOD ROGUE"...glancealot said:
Again, where did u get this 75+ twink idea? Further, most of ur games were below 70, u just started this 70 twinking. There's threads here and on pwndepot where ur rogue is a stam 69 twink. I highly doubt u're going into any BG's other than AV anymore. I think it's hilarious that every time someone is pointed out w/ better "stats", u throw in another assumption. Balroy's stats is cause he only runs w/ twinks. Taitaih must have been a 75+ twink. I swear u crack me up...glancealot said:
glancealot
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Alkaholic said:
what?
and i hit 70 before the whole achivement/statistics system came out...
so ya...every game recorded is in 70-79. and i don't play AV nearly as much as other BG's...
glancealot
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Taitaih said:
1, where does it say 74? why crop it down to where we can't see your level?
2, alliance dominated...what's your point?
and here is me, a 70 carrying 78~79's against much stronger teams.
who is the better player? you be the judge.
Zalélol
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glancealot said:
It's cute that you think becuase someone can click a flag fast means he is a good player.
FYI that record shows that hunt goes into melee range just to click the flag, I.e not doing his max damage on the efc just to be able to click the flag.
GG.
P.s I as a rogue(at any bracket) would let someone else fc unless I have prep up or something, every class but maybe locks would make a better fc unless you have CD's. Also you're hardly a good player if you rush to the flag and take it over the 10k hp tank just to get a an extra cap on your record.
Ofc I would get the flag if the efc was coming up and I'm like the only guy there but I would drop it for a more able'ed class as soon as they turn up.
"who is the better player? you be the judge. "
Well a good player does not compare screen shots from a random wsg to prove how skilled they are.
>.>
glancealot
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so, show me one SS where you carry your teams. if you don't have one, please come to realization that you are not as good(at rogue) as you think you are
you probably play very well on your lock, that's why you play your locks way more than your rogue, we all tend to prefer doing what we are good at.
you probably play very well on your lock, that's why you play your locks way more than your rogue, we all tend to prefer doing what we are good at.
glancealot
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Taitaih said:
lol...now really?
you really think you, as a 74 rogue (as you stated, probably was actually 79 anyways) at any rate, could have topped the chart in a 70-79 BG if the enemy team was remotely competitive?
i am guessing horde had horrible players and you just farmed mid with help of a full time healer.
and you were probably mutilate or killing spree too, which shows how bad you are at the rogue class (mutilate is horrible in PuG BG's, you probably rape uncompetitive players, but against any half good horde team, subtlety is much much more effective)
glancealot
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Alkaholic said:
well, my partner was pushing on his 80 because its the first week of S8, which is important, so i just invited randoms to queue with (and told them they don't need to join when the queue pops) to get my 10 games in...
so games went like this...
and i do that very often as last season he sometimes skipped a week all together...after all, he values 80 more than 70.
please only take my partner's winning ratio (he signed on his 70 for half an hour while his level 80 3vs3 team took a dinner break last night and we went 5-0) and our MMR (which is 2200+ right now, but will improve to at least 2500+ as we play more games, he only plays enough to get points a week so our MMR is climbing slowly) seriously
Alkaholic
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You do realize u're a rogue and not a prot warrior/druid flag carrier, RIGHT?!?!?!glancealot said:1, where does it say 74? why crop it down to where we can't see your level?
2, alliance dominated...what's your point?
and here is me, a 70 carrying 78~79's against much stronger teams.
who is the better player? you be the judge.
A rogue only having 5 kills in a BG is HORRIBLE! Ur class is a damage dealer. Getting speed buff, popping sprint, prep, sprint, speed buff is NOT skill. U have 10 kills in a game where u have 3 flag returns, I'd have to assume u were just faster to click the flag than anyone else while other people did the killing. Clicking flag != skill...
glancealot
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Alkaholic said:
so i should have tried to rape the entire horde team in a 70-79 BG as a 70 rogue when they were demolishing all of my other 9 teammates?
simply put: if you were playing my rogue, you wouldn't have helped alliance win the game.
even if you played like me, you still couldn't have because you aren't as good
edit: say that SS where the top horde player is ingloriius (79 rogue with 5 flag returns), to score, i had to do way more than "Getting speed buff, popping sprint, prep, sprint, speed buff "
Taitaih
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How do you figure that I play my locks WAY more than my rogue? Seriously, would love to hear this one. I'm guessing you're looking at the number of games played? Take maybe one or two seconds to think that maybe I played my rogue quite a bit before they began keeping track... hmm?
Mid is exactly where I sit. Mid is where I can spot flag carriers coming from either ramp, GY, or tunnel, and if I need to... cover both their ramp and tunnel where they will enter to their base. My prerogative is staying AWAY from my teammates, because that's usually the least likely place for FCs to run. I do the exact same thing on my lock when I'm not FCing. Mid is my bitch, and I'm happy to admit that.
You can keep posting your mediocre games where Horde were "dominating" and you won by "carrying" your team. They're just that impressive.
Mid is exactly where I sit. Mid is where I can spot flag carriers coming from either ramp, GY, or tunnel, and if I need to... cover both their ramp and tunnel where they will enter to their base. My prerogative is staying AWAY from my teammates, because that's usually the least likely place for FCs to run. I do the exact same thing on my lock when I'm not FCing. Mid is my bitch, and I'm happy to admit that.
You can keep posting your mediocre games where Horde were "dominating" and you won by "carrying" your team. They're just that impressive.
Alkaholic
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Then again, we can't all get outplayed by rogues w/ half our gear, stats, enchants, etc.
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