Mazurati said:
I have black magic in my OH and it procs very often
thanks.
and taitaih, that's the logic proof you asked for
and,
let me tell you what you are doing wrong taitaih
there are about 3 levels of understanding the rogue's role in WSG
1, killing.
this stage is easy to get to, you basically try to kill as many opponents as possible, when you are able to kill 10~20 opponents on average per death, you are certainly contributing, but this doesn't necessarily help your team win as you are not focused on the game objective.
i have never been in this stage as i always play to win. winning to me is EVERYTHING.
2, locking down enemy healers/killing enemy flag carrier/supporting your own flag carrier and picking up flag when he dies.
even though this might not sound too hard on paper, it is rare to see good rogues that do these. i was at this level for about 50,000 kills until i reached the next stage.
3, leading the team to victory in games where it's almost impossible to win.
after a while, with the help of the implemented flag carrier debuff, 20 min (later 25min) timer, i realized that, no matter how hard i try, if i simply just do those stated in 2, it won't help me win some of the hard games, for example, when my opponent has a 20k paladin FC and a full time healer, and a much much stronger team than my team, i simply cannot turn the tide around as a rogue. i probably could if i were another class, but i am a rogue.
then i realized something, i could do more, way more than just those stated in 2.
i am gonna use an example to explain what i mean.
1, about 1 min into the game, i knew i was in for a hard fight. alliance whole team got wrecked and not a single horde died once.
2, 2 min into the game, i knew basically what kind of person was behind every horde player. tenkay/mournhold/jibus were all geared out 78~79's that simply zoned in wsg to "own". aevian is the only player that's trying to win, and he is a 79 20k hp paladin. undeadly(priest) is a full time healer.
3, 3 min into the game, aevian picks up flag, horde entire team with him simply because they killed all the alliance and therefore they had nothing else to do. do i go after aevian? no, that would be pointless.
4, so i pick up horde's flag after two of our FC died miserbly in midfield when they decided it's fun to run into the group of horde returning. i zigzag'd my way to alliance base, told the only good player bluthunder (healer) to follow me, we moved around alliance base, when there were too many for us to handle, i would simply run to GY, around the fence or to the far west end, with 100% speed sprint and 5 min preparation, cloak of shadow, i was able to stay alive for a very very long time, eventually i gave the flag to Ainey, a 79 druid, told him to stay at our graveyard and tried to get aevian myself.
5, not surprisingly, i didn't even get to aevian when horde quickly demolished ainey and aevian captured flag, 1-0.(looking back, i probably should have held onto the flag until death)
6, i sapped aevian who just captured flag. as soon as horde flag spawned, i picked it up. tunnel boots + sprint, got to our base faster than horde could react, i gathered the good players with me, and we sat in our flag room without capping for a very long time until we couldn't hold off the attacks anymore. and i capped.
5 min left.
6, now horde sudenly realized that they might lose this game, they came to our base full force, picked up our flag. what did i do? i didn't do a Kamikaze and slow their FC because that wouldn't have delayed him long enough. i went to their base, picked up their flag, and hid in the corner up their ramp,
i told my teammates to come to horde ramp and i survived. in the final minute, if things went bad, i was
ready to blow sprint/cloak of shadow, evasion and parachute off(works like a charm when there are like 6~7 hordes all packed below that corner), i have 19000 health so i would have earned another 40 sec ~ 60 seconds (15 seconds parachute falling, evasion + backpedal for 15 seconds, cloak + trinket+ another 15 sec sprint, and another evasion before they can finally get me.
ok basically, what i am trying to say is, there are many things you can do. for example:
1, i try to identify the good players on horde side, taunt them(oh there are many ways to do that, if you want, i can make a specific post explaining what tiny things you can do to p1ss people off) and make them angry, and use that to my advantage. (when people are angry, they act stupid and their actions are very easy to predict)
2, i encourage my teammates, i report afk's, i tell them specifically what to do politely.
3, hiding spots, there are so many hiding spots in both alliance/horde base, fence jumping, fence hogging
4, and many more, that's it for now, i am probably gonna make a separate thread about how to win WSG's if there is enough interest
