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Hi everyone, I'm working on a 49 warrior right now and researching my options for 2h weapons. I understand conventional wisdom favors Executioner's Cleaver in this bracket, and I agree that it's a strong contender, but there are a lot of strong contenders, so I thought I'd share my notes on the subject.
I'm curious to hear what people who have played warriors in the bracket have to think about the 2h options. I ran a lot of these through the wowhead calculator, and I'm not sure how precise that is, but it did come up with some unexpected results.
[Edit 10-20-19]: The formulae below were all previously based on Vanilla WoW weapon damage, pre-normalization (oops). I've revised all the calculations to reflect normalization, and I've also changed the calculations to reflect the full damage range.
All of the examples below assume our warrior has 650 attack power. These values are normalized weapon damage, meaning this formula is what gets used for instant attacks. If a weapon has Strength, the formula will be adjusted accordingly.
The formula for normalized instant attack damage is:
(AP/14) * Normalized Weapon Speed (3.3 for 2h) + Base Weapon Damage.
Here are the damage ranges I came up with.
Executioner's Cleaver
((696/14)*3.3) + [127-191] = 291-355
Expected Mortal Strike Damage: 401-465
Expected Mortal Strike Crit: 802-930
Normal Attack Range: 315-380
DPS: 91.48
Soulkeeper
((650/14)*3.3) + [141-213] = 294-366
Expected Mortal Strike Damage: 404-476
Expected Mortal Strike Crit: 808-952
Normal Attack Range: 317-390
DPS: 92.94
Glowing Brightwood Staff:
((650/14)*3.3) + [127-191] = 280-344
Expected Mortal Strike Damage: 390-454
Expected Mortal Strike Crit: 780-908
Normal Attack Range: 270-335
DPS: 97.65
Stoneslayer:
((650/14)*3.3) + [133-200] = 286-353
Expected Mortal Strike Damage: 396-463
Expected Mortal Strike Crit: 792-926
Normal Attack Range: 313-381
DPS: 89.05
Kang the Decapitator:
((650/14)*3.3) + [136-205] = 289-358
Expected Mortal Strike Damage: 399-468
Expected Mortal Strike Crit: 798-936
Normal Attack Range: 302-372
DPS: 93.72
Resurgence Rod:
((650/14)*3.3) + [139-209] = 292-362
Expected Mortal Strike Damage: 402-472
Expected Mortal Strike Crit: 804-944
Normal Attack Range: 315-386
DPS: 92.15
Rockpounder:
((660/14)*3.3) + [126-190] = 281-345
Expected Mortal Strike Damage: 391-455
Expected Mortal Strike Crit: 782-910
Normal Attack Range: 300-365
DPS: 89.77
The Judge's Gavel:
((650/14)*3.3) + [122-187] = 275-340
Expected Mortal Strike Damage: 385-450
Expected Mortal Strike Crit: 770-900
Normal Attack Range: 279-342
DPS: 91.36
Executioner's Cleaver ranks 4th in normalized weapon damage in the bracket as far as I can tell, behind Stoneslayer, Resurgence Rod and Soulkeeper. It also ranks 4th in top-end white damage.
The 1% Hit on EC is good, but with the results being so much closer together than I was expecting between damage ranges, there are a lot of different utilities to work with here for different purposes. The biggest possible difference in a mortal strike CRIT at the top-end range of all these weapons is only 52 damage--and that's before damage mitigation from armor. That's less than 6 stamina.
Another variable to consider is axe spec vs. sword & mace spec, or skipping all three specs in favor of other talents and wielding a staff.
Just some general information for other number dorks who want to puzzle over the best options. Obviously, mileage will vary here by class and spec.
I'm curious to hear what people who have played warriors in the bracket have to think about the 2h options. I ran a lot of these through the wowhead calculator, and I'm not sure how precise that is, but it did come up with some unexpected results.
[Edit 10-20-19]: The formulae below were all previously based on Vanilla WoW weapon damage, pre-normalization (oops). I've revised all the calculations to reflect normalization, and I've also changed the calculations to reflect the full damage range.
- Glowing Brightwood Staff: 127-191 Damage, 3.1 speed, 51.29 dps, 15 stam, 9 spirit
- Kang the Decapitator: 136-205 Damage, 3.6 speed, 47.36 dps, 560 damage bleed over 30 seconds
- Soulkeeper: 141-213 Damage, 3.8 speed, 46.58 dps, 26 spirit
- Resurgence Rod: 139-209 Damage, 3.8 speed, 45.79 dps, 5 HP/5
- The Judge's Gavel: 122-187 Damage, 3.4 speed, 45 dps, chance to stun for 3 seconds
- The Rockpounder: 126-190 Damage, 3.7 speed, 42.7 dps, 5 str, 2% crit
- Stoneslayer: 133-200 Damage, 3.9 speed, 42.69 dps, chance to increase damage by 10 for 8 seconds
- Executioner's Cleaver: 127-191 Damage, 3.8 speed, 41.84 dps, 23 str, 1% hit
All of the examples below assume our warrior has 650 attack power. These values are normalized weapon damage, meaning this formula is what gets used for instant attacks. If a weapon has Strength, the formula will be adjusted accordingly.
The formula for normalized instant attack damage is:
(AP/14) * Normalized Weapon Speed (3.3 for 2h) + Base Weapon Damage.
Here are the damage ranges I came up with.
Executioner's Cleaver
((696/14)*3.3) + [127-191] = 291-355
Expected Mortal Strike Damage: 401-465
Expected Mortal Strike Crit: 802-930
Normal Attack Range: 315-380
DPS: 91.48
Soulkeeper
((650/14)*3.3) + [141-213] = 294-366
Expected Mortal Strike Damage: 404-476
Expected Mortal Strike Crit: 808-952
Normal Attack Range: 317-390
DPS: 92.94
Glowing Brightwood Staff:
((650/14)*3.3) + [127-191] = 280-344
Expected Mortal Strike Damage: 390-454
Expected Mortal Strike Crit: 780-908
Normal Attack Range: 270-335
DPS: 97.65
Stoneslayer:
((650/14)*3.3) + [133-200] = 286-353
Expected Mortal Strike Damage: 396-463
Expected Mortal Strike Crit: 792-926
Normal Attack Range: 313-381
DPS: 89.05
Kang the Decapitator:
((650/14)*3.3) + [136-205] = 289-358
Expected Mortal Strike Damage: 399-468
Expected Mortal Strike Crit: 798-936
Normal Attack Range: 302-372
DPS: 93.72
Resurgence Rod:
((650/14)*3.3) + [139-209] = 292-362
Expected Mortal Strike Damage: 402-472
Expected Mortal Strike Crit: 804-944
Normal Attack Range: 315-386
DPS: 92.15
Rockpounder:
((660/14)*3.3) + [126-190] = 281-345
Expected Mortal Strike Damage: 391-455
Expected Mortal Strike Crit: 782-910
Normal Attack Range: 300-365
DPS: 89.77
The Judge's Gavel:
((650/14)*3.3) + [122-187] = 275-340
Expected Mortal Strike Damage: 385-450
Expected Mortal Strike Crit: 770-900
Normal Attack Range: 279-342
DPS: 91.36
Executioner's Cleaver ranks 4th in normalized weapon damage in the bracket as far as I can tell, behind Stoneslayer, Resurgence Rod and Soulkeeper. It also ranks 4th in top-end white damage.
The 1% Hit on EC is good, but with the results being so much closer together than I was expecting between damage ranges, there are a lot of different utilities to work with here for different purposes. The biggest possible difference in a mortal strike CRIT at the top-end range of all these weapons is only 52 damage--and that's before damage mitigation from armor. That's less than 6 stamina.
Another variable to consider is axe spec vs. sword & mace spec, or skipping all three specs in favor of other talents and wielding a staff.
Just some general information for other number dorks who want to puzzle over the best options. Obviously, mileage will vary here by class and spec.
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