Curley
OG
I'm most likely just going to use BOA helm and shoulders then just use my gloomshroud. Won't use more hit than I need to.
Assassin's Blade and Talon of Vultros
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I'm most likely just going to use BOA helm and shoulders then just use my gloomshroud. Won't use more hit than I need to.
Curley
OG
Yea it's based off spell crit.
Lejn
Banned
Well, I'd need another weapon to compare it to. But I find it quite hard to believe that no other dagger has the same or higher WEAPON top end than 30, and that's what counts unless they removed normalization without me noticing it.
Curley
OG
Since talon has such a slow speed it would be best for mut and ambush tho. Indisputable BiS. You gain 2 bottom end but lose 1 topend compared to using the BOA resil dagger.
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Curley
OG
I'm talking about from straight special standpoint. In additon, I will hit harder on white hits generally with my Talon over the BOA dagger.
Curley
OG
This IMO is the gear that will end up being BiS.
Helm : BOA one
Neck : Wsg neck
Shoulders : BOA pvp one
Back : Satchel Back bandit
Chest : Gloomshroud
Wrist : Black wolf
MH wep : Talon of Vultros
OH wep : Tail spike
Trinket 1 : Agm
Trinket 2 : Pvp trinket
Ring 1 and 2 : Argas
Boots : Cobrahn's
Legs : Boa
Gloves : Foreman's
Belt : bandit
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Jumpy
Legend
Lejn you crack me up. You all have good points though. Everyone should be taking what has been said here and using that in thought of there own builds. With the variety of enchants it is going to be exciting to see the many different builds. However, if one thing should be clear... Talon of Vultros and Assassin's Blade will be BiS for Assassination spec. That's with normalization and RPPM in thought.
Curley
OG
No point of AB because why gear over special cap? I'm going with heartseeker for the crit and i'm not losing any topend as well. I only lose like 2 OH topend but that wont really matter for mut at all OH doesn't hit very hard.
Curley
OG
Ab is 17-33 1.8 4 agi 3 hit
Heartseeker 1.7 17.85-33.15 3 agi 3 crit 1 hit
tail spike 1.8 17-33 4 agi 3 crit
I'm 99 percent sure vultros bis MH you gain 2 bottom end and lose 1 topend over the resil dagger. Would love your input on that.
Curley
OG
It's a toss up between tail spike or heartseeker. It's between 1 hit or like .1 crit and 2 ap and like 1 topend gain OH which would slightly benefit mut and Off hand hits.
Lejn
Banned
My input: ToV is worse than all of them. How they compete between on each other depends on stat values, I would have to em actual testing for that. Before you tell of something about the total top end, normalized dagger damage is: (weapon dps * weapon speed) + (ap / 14) * 1.7
Only the actual top end on the weapon matters.
Only the actual top end on the weapon matters.
Curley
OG
Then why does my damage go up significantly with a ToV which has 29 topend compared to a Assasins blade if I use in the mainhand. This means that ambush would hit higher with the ToV over the Ab. Am i right? I'm 99 pecent sure. Look at the ambush tooltip and mutilate tooltip its all about weapon damage. Look in the actual characeter pane. The damage goes up with ToV over any other wep because of its speed.