Lovely fella, can't even get my name sorted out.. Well, yes, I seem to be confused, when I hear from some fellas that you wanted a real BG. I said fine, how many do you think we'll get, and said person told me you'd promised them 15. If this hurt your feelings, Then I'm as sad as one can get. I've been in many a threads, and I rarely do any pvp on my Paladin, although I do from time to time on my hunter/mage. And I think you've mistaken the raiding at 60, with raiding at 100, my dear chap! We rarely get 20 peeps, and if we do they're barely geared. In other words, we're doing raids with aprox 12 people. I can understand the "using phone" part can be rather disturbing. It sure as hell is for us, with such a grammar made by a phone, but I can assure you there's no need in using bad language around a page where, as far as I know, some are still children. And yes, we all agree with you, let's get the bracket going, but surely you must understand that baby steps are the way to go. Force recruit people for pvp (Not balanced at all), when most of them want to do the raids, is just plain stupid, innit'? Yes, I admire your lust to get the bracket going in pvp, but as of yet, the urge for it ain't there. One real BG now and then (1-2 times a week) is alot better than once or twice a year, so by all means, do get the BG's going, but don't expect too much..