EU+US Addressing a Common Issue before we Populate

Turtle

Turtle

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So I thought I'd make a thread about a common issue the 20's section has while this website doesn't have a lot of traffic; Having less people to argue with is better. More productive ideas and how to go about these things can get done with less opinions (i know i'm scum)

Now I don't wanna get a bad label on me, i'm not doing this to bring in this idiotic argument onto this website but I do this because I care about our community and this new lovely website.
The issue at hand being the .... Starter and Veteran division that we had back on our previous lives.

So basically, there being 2 types of 20 Twinking the "Veteran" and the "Starter Edition".
On our previous website, we made a sub-section for both Veteran and Starter and gave them labels.
I'm not sure if that's the way we all want to keep things going. I don't really have a preferable opinion, and if both Veteran and Starter don't have to be segregated at all then that would be nice too.

So I just thought i'd lay that down before extreme bias people come that argue their souls out of a such little dilemma (most their pride towards their form of twinking)
I also understand these are such lesser issues and there are bigger things to work on and you guys are doing such a great job at it; so thank you :)
 
Three versions of level 20's actually.
Starter, Veteran and Subscriber
There is no real good reason to segregate level 20's.
In fact, level 20's probably should not be segregated from the 29's. After all, it is the same bracket. As long as the section(s) is/are moderated well, there should be no issues.

As far as arguements go, there is nothing wrong with spirited debates. As long as that is all they are, debates and not turned into personal issues. This is where the moderators need to step in and control the problem posters.
 
Saggybags said:
Three versions of level 20's actually.
Starter, Veteran and Subscriber
There is no real good reason to segregate level 20's.
In fact, level 20's probably should not be segregated from the 29's. After all, it is the same bracket. As long as the section(s) is/are moderated well, there should be no issues.

As far as arguements go, there is nothing wrong with spirited debates. As long as that is all they are, debates and not turned into personal issues. This is where the moderators need to step in and control the problem posters.
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You must have not seen 29s and 20s fight in the previous website
 
Saggybags said:
Three versions of level 20's actually.
Starter, Veteran and Subscriber
There is no real good reason to segregate level 20's.
In fact, level 20's probably should not be segregated from the 29's. After all, it is the same bracket. As long as the section(s) is/are moderated well, there should be no issues.

As far as arguements go, there is nothing wrong with spirited debates. As long as that is all they are, debates and not turned into personal issues. This is where the moderators need to step in and control the problem posters.
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I can agree on not segregating Veterans and Starters. As for the Subscriber, that was honestly just a joke from the beginning and waste of attention, it basically portrayed a Veteran, there are minor things like a Subscriber can I guess create things that are above 100 profession level and a Veteran cannot, but in honesty that was usually just covered by a reply on how to take advantage of your subscription.

HOWEVER, I noticed a very interesting and unique layout of these "Brackets" in the selection page of our Forum Section.
There is things like 19, 29, 39, and 59.... and just these single number brackets and then you have 70-79 80-89...
Some brackets are segregated from others and such

I don't really agree on combining the 20-29 together... Sure they are the same brackets but total different concepts at hand. This actually would make sense if we didn't have the F2P aspect... we could jut be another bracket like 10-19 or 70-79 w/e; However, like I said these are 2 different concepts of XPOff, 29 is just another end-level to a bracket and a average XPOff concept; While in the other hand 20 XPOff is more complex and dives into things such Guides on how to achieve the best things for a a F2P account and even how to get and set up a Veteran account.

This is just my opinion of course, the 20-29 idea isn't that bad; It just be less ideal for finding the correct information on a specific section that you are looking for

Ps: lmao im trying to hard to replace the word "twinking" with "xpoff"
 
Turtle said:
I can agree on not segregating Veterans and Starters. As for the Subscriber, that was honestly just a joke from the beginning and waste of attention, it basically portrayed a Veteran, there are minor things like a Subscriber can I guess create things that are above 100 profession level and a Veteran cannot, but in honesty that was usually just covered by a reply on how to take advantage of your subscription.

HOWEVER, I noticed a very interesting and unique layout of these "Brackets" in the selection page of our Forum Section.
There is things like 19, 29, 39, and 59.... and just these single number brackets and then you have 70-79 80-89...
Some brackets are segregated from others and such

I don't really agree on combining the 20-29 together... Sure they are the same brackets but total different concepts at hand. This actually would make sense if we didn't have the F2P aspect... we could jut be another bracket like 10-19 or 70-79 w/e; However, like I said these are 2 different concepts of XPOff, 29 is just another end-level to a bracket and a average XPOff concept; While in the other hand 20 XPOff is more complex and dives into things such Guides on how to achieve the best things for a a F2P account and even how to get and set up a Veteran account.

This is just my opinion of course, the 20-29 idea isn't that bad; It just be less ideal for finding the correct information on a specific section that you are looking for

Ps: lmao im trying to hard to replace the word "tinkering" with "xpoff"
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Are people saying tinkering now ? Tf did everyone just like find new words to say
 
Are you honestly stating you want to segregate a subscriber level 20 based on what they can craft on their profession level in Warlords of Dreanor WoW? You are joking, right?
If a subscriber actually chooses to play a level 20 as opposed to a level 29 they are not welcome in the level 20 section. All I have to say to that one is WOW!!
I suppose I might as well shelf my level 20's and roll a couple 29's since I am not welcome here.
 
Saggybags said:
Are you honestly stating you want to segregate a subscriber level 20 based on what they can craft on their profession level in Warlords of Dreanor WoW? You are joking, right?
If a subscriber actually chooses to play a level 20 as opposed to a level 29 they are not welcome in the level 20 section. All I have to say to that one is WOW!!
I suppose I might as well shelf my level 20's and roll a couple 29's since I am not welcome here.
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I'm sorry if I didn't make my self clear...I said the whole subscriber thing was a joke... that was the least of my whole statement....I shouldn't have even included the professions... hell not even the subscriber thing....
If you have a level 20 xpoff toon with Starter/ Veteran edition, you will find the help/info you need on the 20 xpoff section.... anything else regarding outside of that bubble can go to 29 or 20-29 w/e section plays off; seems its just 20 and 29 right now
 
Turtle said:
I'm sorry if I didn't make my self clear...I said the whole subscriber thing was a joke... that was the least of my whole statement....I shouldn't have even included the professions... hell not even the subscriber thing....
If you have a level 20 xpoff toon with Starter/ Veteran edition, you will find the help/info you need on the 20 xpoff section.... anything else regarding outside of that bubble can go to 29 or 20-29 w/e section plays off; seems its just 20 and 29 right now
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Just say twink it's so annoying no 1 owns the word bro why change your vocabulary over a website
 
Gokku said:
Just say tink it's so annoying no 1 owns the word bro why change your vocabulary over a website
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Google t i n k and see what happens. That is why TI couldn't get adsense
 
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Gokku said:
Just say tink it's so annoying no 1 owns the word bro why change your vocabulary over a website
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I know it might be annoying at first, but the word it self is the reason TI couldnt achieve adSense afaik, after we have achieved adSense (Hopefully) we can take a second look at the word.
 
I believe and feel that the bracketing has been done right now. Cheers. 20-29 main with subsections for the 2 other playstyles in this bracket! Well done!! On TI it just felt like a mess. XPOff feels like its been driven by people who can drive.. keep going!
 
20-29, and maintain mutual respect. If I'm not mistaken, that's a "rule" on this forum. Seems reasonable that if you can't figure it out at this point, you may as well give up.
 
I really dont see how the f2p/veteran/29s are a problem atm and I will tell you why. At TI I admit having free to play and veterans in the same forum was.... ye one hell of a brawl, yet it felt to clumsy having 3 forums for the same bracket essentially. I really dont see a problem in having a 20-29 forum with 2 sub-sections for Free to Play and Veteran players as they essentially goes under the 20-29 bracket.

And of course we try listent to all your arguments :) Nothing is set in stone ever when it comes to the community, this website should develop as the community develops, but lets try at least and see if this way of handling the 3 forums will work out:)
 
Shamatix said:
I really dont see how the f2p/veteran/29s are a problem atm and I will tell you why. At TI I admit having free to play and veterans in the same forum was.... ye one hell of a brawl, yet it felt to clumsy having 3 forums for the same bracket essentially. I really dont see a problem in having a 20-29 forum with 2 sub-sections for Free to Play and Veteran players as they essentially goes under the 20-29 bracket.

And of course we try listent to all your arguments :) Nothing is set in stone ever when it comes to the community, this website should develop as the community develops, but lets try at least and see if this way of handling the 3 forums will work out:)
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The reason it is "one hell of a brawl" is because people let become that way. If the players the the 20-29 bracket act mature about issues, instead of childish, we shouldn't have problems or brawls.
 
Gokku said:
You must have not seen 29s and 20s fight in the previous website
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Actually, I did see them "fight". I have seen 19's fight as well. All levels of twinkz fighting as opposed to debating.
I also saw them turn it into personal issues that had absolutely nothing to do with WoW. That sort of thing does not belong on a gaming forum. People that break a website's CoC should be properly reprimanded no matter who they are or how long they have been a member of said website.
 
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How it is set up right now is great. But as people start to migrate over from TI and use this website more we will see.

There has always been a major conflict between the 20s and the 29s, even more of one then there is between the F2Ps and the Vets. Personally I could care less as I play all three types every now and then.
 
I do like this set up better than the last one, the only thing that could go wrong would knowing were exactly to post.
Like should we keep everything involving 20-29 in the general section and specifically ONLY things that portray to Vet/F2P in those sections.

If there's a thread involving all 20s... and we don't have the tags "All" "Starter" "Veteran" then we should post it in the 20-29 section correct?
 
It used to be liked this on TI. A 20-29 section and a subsection for trials underneath.
And deservingly so, Starters got their own section in Cata during their heyday. Only recently, did all hell break loose with all the subsections and subsubsections. It was quite ludicrous.
 
@Turtle. Everything I post will be going into the Veteran section, meaning how that is what I spend majority of my time playing. Now when it comes to events such as premade, maybe WPvP, ect. I will put it in the section I'm running the event for.

I don't know if that makes any sense, but I would just post in the section you play the most unless it involves more to one of the other sections.
 
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