About These Queue Times...

I don't understand, so was 10-19 not a twink bracket before? I remember having a pretty great time on my 19 MM in wrath :D

I don't know how to paint this out any further for you. While I am sure TWINKS EXISTED before XPOFF TWINK ONLY battlegrounds, there wasn't a TWINK BRACKET, because there would be a mix of levelers. Now if you lock your EXP you face TWINKS ONLY, making it an EXCLUSIVE TWINK BRACKET.

Hopefully it's easily understood now?????????

Again, it's not about whether twinks exist/existed or not. It's about bracket definition.
 
It would basically be insta pops once enough people were queuing
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As someone who was regularly in his premades those games were mostly boring as hell compared to 19s after the separation. And WSG (a way better bg than AB/EOTS) would never pop and when it did it was mostly one-sided games.
If most of those games were boring as hell then you must be depressed
 
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Sadly, as the bracket ages many don't have time to queue at the peak times anymore, hence the slow decline of the bracket, while when it was for retards who liked farming lvler's have moved to the less competitive scene lvl 20s. Although the addition of xpoff brackets being separate has made the bracket more enjoyable when queues do occur, and the increased quality has derived into better players improving. This exact same thing happened in the introduction of cataclysm but those free to play accounts only lasted 10 days if I recall correctly, hence nothing really farm able and had to make the players at the 19 bracket improve or join endgame.

But, with the constant ability to play for free, many will simply just prefer the easier and less skillful option, because these are the kind of people that demand an easy mode on darksouls. Tough times create tough people, eventually or even with a large sum of money dropped into say twink cup, could arise with more players wanting something better. I promise that if any somewhat decent lvl 20 played a organised wargame they'd enjoy it far more than any pug, and they'll notice this eventually.
 
Can we just acknowledge that a lot of the people who wanted the brackets separated are the ones not queing after they got what they wanted? I’m dumbfounded that you guys still aren’t grasping the equation.

Let’s say x= queing random bgs against levelers
Y= twink premades in random bgs vs other twink premades
And z= wargames of twinks vs twinks.

These are all completely different things, none of which are removed when the brackets are merged... but when they are separated you miss x and y and only leave z. So why is it even logical to think that having only z is better than x+y+z? We fall back into this mentality of twinks thinking they are just the gods of lower levels, you’d rather have you and your 3 buddy’s that do nothing but talk down to each other and put off new players than culture and encourage new players to join your brackets through random bgs and other interactions. Why do some people fall off on this idea that twinking has a high barrier to entry? It really doesn’t, anyone willing to put the work in can do exactly what we do everyday.
 
So you are implying that before 8.1.5, twinking did not exist? That's funny, this site and twinking are quite a bit older than that!
No. I am telling you that between legion-8.1.5 a twink bracket did not exist.

I don't understand, so was 10-19 not a twink bracket before? I remember having a pretty great time on my 19 MM in wrath :D
Good for you. Most of wotlk also had twink brackets.
 
Imagine getting offended because someone said “you have autism lmao.” That isn’t toxic.
its definitely toxic but if u stop playing because ur offended by people who say stuff like that thats the sad part
 
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The only reason 20-29 is active since cata is that it allows you to prey on FTP/Vets. Most vets that are being created today don't want a competitive environment.
 
No. I am telling you that between legion-8.1.5 a twink bracket did not exist.


Good for you. Most of wotlk also had twink brackets.
But there were levellers in the brackets of WOTLK too, so surely 10-19, 20-29 etc weren't twink brackets because xp could not be toggled off?
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The only reason 20-29 is active since cata is that it allows you to prey on FTP/Vets. Most vets that are being created today don't want a competitive environment.
I Q vet to get quick queues and ruin poor kids.
 
I don't know how to paint this out any further for you. While I am sure TWINKS EXISTED before XPOFF TWINK ONLY battlegrounds, there wasn't a TWINK BRACKET, because there would be a mix of levelers. Now if you lock your EXP you face TWINKS ONLY, making it an EXCLUSIVE TWINK BRACKET.

Hopefully it's easily understood now?????????

Again, it's not about whether twinks exist/existed or not. It's about bracket definition.

Sorry I don't understand, I was under the impression that there were twink brackets before 8.1.5. That's why this website has always had 10-19, 20-29, 30-39 bracket-sorted subsections, for discussions of twinks to their relevant twink brackets.
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Wrath is when bgs started granting xp and the xpoff brackets became a thing http://us.battle.net/wow/en/game/patch-notes/3-2-0
Yeah, the first year of wrath had no exp in bgs.

Also, I could swear I was against levellers in bgs for most of Cata, or were the other players really that inferior? Did off/on brackets get re-merged for a while in Cata? My memory is foggy.
 
Sorry I don't understand, I was under the impression that there were twink brackets before 8.1.5. That's why this website has always had 10-19, 20-29, 30-39 bracket-sorted subsections, for discussions of twinks to their relevant twink brackets.

Being a twink in a bracket doesn't automatically make the entire bracket a twink bracket. However, having a bracket that's "twink only" makes it a twink bracket. Are you trolling, or? >.< Also, this website is from like 2015 (XPOFF specifically, not talking TI).
 
Being a twink in a bracket doesn't automatically make the entire bracket a twink bracket. However, having a bracket that's "twink only" makes it a twink bracket. Are you trolling, or? >.< Also, this website is from like 2015 (XPOFF specifically, not talking TI).
This website is TI (re-branded because of gay porn connotations on a website for a children's video game) but also yes, you did get trolled.
 
If you do something repeatedly when you are bored af most of the time, then either nothing is fun for you or you got way too much time on your hands.
so being bored with something = serious mental illness? i think you need to educate yourself on what depression actually is.
 
so being bored with something = serious mental illness? i think you need to educate yourself on what depression actually is.
Clinical depression is not all depression lmao. If u just Google the definition ull find the first one is "in a state of general unhappiness or despondency". The second definition is "suffering from clinical depression". Thanks for letting me know you are retarded (not mental retardation) for not knowing things have different meanings. I never said you were clinically depressed.
Also if you keep doing something that is boring without just doing something else, you might have clinical depression and I'd suggest you see a doctor
 
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