Sarmlery
Drugs
That isn’t toxic at all. There is no real toxicity in the bracket. Stops being sensitive
About These Queue Times...
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Jojodancer
Veteran
Fact is there were many very good matches before we were separated again. I'm sure the percentages favor twink only bg's but the numbers favor merged. If nothing else you still had something else to do while in search of a good match. Those of us that wanted good matches did what we could to make them happen. If ally was dominating bg's that night we would queue horde and vice versa. As far as coordination, yeah a lot of times it's just chaos. It's much easier to master coordination than it is chaos and therein lies the challenge.
Now that all that's out of the way why isn't everybody queuing up if it's so much better?
Jva
Legend
The people not quing up are the same people acting like crybabys on the forum. Funny how its always the ones actually qing up and liking the change who get the most shit from lvl bg heroes who quickly rolled their 20 vets after separation
. I don´t know how you can have that few braincells to not understand that some people prefer playing against other twinks even if that means they have less pops. Sucks for completely dead brackets but thats the way it is. Not like 49-99 brackets had a big playerbase anyways.
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Jojodancer
Veteran
Really? It seems to me nobody is queuing up so I'm going to go ahead and put your sorry ass in that category.
As if it was just premades against levelers. For the most part it was twinks against twinks in bg's. The levelers didn't even matter for the most part. The fact is you were so busy looking in a mirror telling yourself how you were too good for it that you missed a lot of epic games. You also would have lost some games against people you never heard of which is probably the real reason you avoided it.
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tomxoqt
Grandfathered
So until qs were separated there were no twink brackets?
Bung
Gnometastic
it was 90% EoTs, and if u got into a WSG it was completely one sided
This is still a thing btw, exept its for balancing/get pops instead. Just as it was last time we had seperated Q
You can ask players about how many they got queuing on their side and how many are online, if its close to pop you continue Q if its one sided you log other faction.
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Jojodancer
Veteran
The moral of this story is QUEUE UP. Everybody's going F2P because they will always get bg's and I can personally see why they're doing it. Fifty shit games are infinitely better than zero. So all of you that claim how much better it is now it's time to put up or shut up. Don't bother typing a reply to my thread just queue the fuck up.
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Jojodancer
Veteran
maybe you shoulve just said that to begin with, maybe made a thread named "Queue 19s!" nd actually helped instead of whatever this is
I started this to call people out on their hypocrisy and this is just where it went.
Dominate
Veteran
The people not quing up are the same people acting like crybabys on the forum. Funny how its always the ones actually qing up and liking the change who get the most shit from lvl bg heroes who quickly rolled their 20 vets after separation
So waiting 1-2 hours for a pop against full twinks is Cool? Some of us have a life and don't sit in mommies basement trying to justify waiting 2 hours for a que is intelligent. I love playing against twinks but to wait 2 hours 1 hour for a pop is just plain stupid....This toxic community continues to FLourish I see.
*I eat Haters up like Candy FEED the BEAST cause I am hungry!*
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maybe you shoulve just said that to begin with, maybe made a thread named "Queue 19s!" nd actually helped instead of whatever this is
So posting a picture of a dog with no front paws is cool that's not insensitive......
There is no toxic problems in this bracket? How about the post talking bad about autism Anyone think maybe someone might have a child with that No cause people don't care about other's just themselves.... SMH
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Great response Well said!
Bung
Gnometastic
He's like twinks atm... crippled but still standing
Jva
Legend
Not sure what you are smoking man but you seem to have a wild imagination. Maybe switch off your retard mode and stop making assumptions lol.
With that post I don´t think that you are in a position to complain about toxic people
. I give you good advice: q up at prime time, when you dont get a pop within your own acceptable waiting time, go and do something else you braindead monkey but stop crying at people who clearly are more mature about this change than you.Vianco
Legend
Until late MOP? You're fucking clueless. Happened in wotlk pre-patch which changed twinking (for the better) where most twinks xfered to same battlegroups to play twink vs twink battlegrounds. I didn't say killing all but 1 or 2 brackets is a good thing for the WoW twink community, but it is a good thing for 19s whom prefer quality games.
Did you just call me a new age twink? You are the one who didn't know wotlk, cata and MOP xp-off games didn't happen. I've 100% twinked for longer than you and 99%+ of this website.
Exactly. Playing as a f2p or vet you face people with xp-on therefore placing you in the LEVELER BRACKET
Bestworld
MBA
1) Get invited to the in-game community features.
2) Log on and queue prime time (19:00 - 00:00).
3) Ask around, let people know you're queuing and looking to get pops. See how many there are on both sides.
4) If you feel like you've waited long enough, do something else, come back, or don't.
It's really that simple. Queue while questing or farming BoE epics etc. etc. There is so much gearing to be done in this patch, or gold to farm. If pops don't happen, then at least it's not time wasted completely.
This next section is aimed at EVERYONE, who thinks the 19's community is "toxic".
I've legit played so many different games out there (PvP-oriented). Dota, CS:GO, Overwatch (to name a few popular ones) etc. Without having played much League of Legends, I can't say that I've experienced the toxic community first-hand, but I think that legit EVERY gamer has heard stories of how toxic the League community is. Yet it's still one of the most popular games out there? So I ask you, do you think that WoW 19's is overly toxic? Have you played any other game / aspect that focuses on PvP? I can with CERTAINTY say that 19's is of NO DIFFERENCE to these games, if not even less toxic.
If someone calls you out in a rather heated moment (because that's what it usually is), you shouldn't take everything to heart. Instead, look at what the core essence of that message was. Reflect upon it, and if you really made a mistake, own up to it. Everyone makes mistakes here and there, and the ones that gets called out are usually the major ones. Ask for advice or elaboration after the games, join guilds etc. People tend to show respect if you show incentive to learn. Everyone is fully aware that people are on different skill levels. And if you "just don't care", then you shouldn't care about the comments getting thrown at you either.
Next section will be about bracket activity.
I feel like people who abandoned 19's for vet/f2p bracket weren't that involved or invested to begin with. If you cared enough, you'd be queuing like the rest of us (look at the top of this post if your argument is: "I can't sit in queue for hours"). And this is not meant to bash anyone. Everyone has different opinions on twinking, and what twinking provides for you as a player. It's EASY to notice all the Legion and early BFA twinks switching to vet/f2p bracket, because they didn't mind the leveler games and maybe found their enjoyment in sitting back and oneshotting plebs. That's how a lot of people started twinking back in the day anyways.
However, claiming that the lack of activity is due to the bracket being gate-kept by toxicity is a crazy argument, because that hasn't seemed to stop people from queuing in the endgame bracket, or other games entirely where the toxicity levels are, if not the same, then even worse.
2) Log on and queue prime time (19:00 - 00:00).
3) Ask around, let people know you're queuing and looking to get pops. See how many there are on both sides.
4) If you feel like you've waited long enough, do something else, come back, or don't.
It's really that simple. Queue while questing or farming BoE epics etc. etc. There is so much gearing to be done in this patch, or gold to farm. If pops don't happen, then at least it's not time wasted completely.
This next section is aimed at EVERYONE, who thinks the 19's community is "toxic".
I've legit played so many different games out there (PvP-oriented). Dota, CS:GO, Overwatch (to name a few popular ones) etc. Without having played much League of Legends, I can't say that I've experienced the toxic community first-hand, but I think that legit EVERY gamer has heard stories of how toxic the League community is. Yet it's still one of the most popular games out there? So I ask you, do you think that WoW 19's is overly toxic? Have you played any other game / aspect that focuses on PvP? I can with CERTAINTY say that 19's is of NO DIFFERENCE to these games, if not even less toxic.
If someone calls you out in a rather heated moment (because that's what it usually is), you shouldn't take everything to heart. Instead, look at what the core essence of that message was. Reflect upon it, and if you really made a mistake, own up to it. Everyone makes mistakes here and there, and the ones that gets called out are usually the major ones. Ask for advice or elaboration after the games, join guilds etc. People tend to show respect if you show incentive to learn. Everyone is fully aware that people are on different skill levels. And if you "just don't care", then you shouldn't care about the comments getting thrown at you either.
Next section will be about bracket activity.
I feel like people who abandoned 19's for vet/f2p bracket weren't that involved or invested to begin with. If you cared enough, you'd be queuing like the rest of us (look at the top of this post if your argument is: "I can't sit in queue for hours"). And this is not meant to bash anyone. Everyone has different opinions on twinking, and what twinking provides for you as a player. It's EASY to notice all the Legion and early BFA twinks switching to vet/f2p bracket, because they didn't mind the leveler games and maybe found their enjoyment in sitting back and oneshotting plebs. That's how a lot of people started twinking back in the day anyways.
However, claiming that the lack of activity is due to the bracket being gate-kept by toxicity is a crazy argument, because that hasn't seemed to stop people from queuing in the endgame bracket, or other games entirely where the toxicity levels are, if not the same, then even worse.
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Infomerc
Legend
Not sure what your point is, or if you know that story. Bung probably does.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faith_(dog)
Faith was given a non-commission rank of E5 Sgt. at Ft. Lewis, Washington in June 2006. She visited more than 2,300 wounded warriors in hospitals and wards throughout the world, and was seen by more than 2,000,000 active soldiers at bases, airports, and ceremonies.
tomxoqt
Grandfathered
So you are implying that before 8.1.5, twinking did not exist? That's funny, this site and twinking are quite a bit older than that!
Bestworld
MBA
He is defining a BRACKET NAME. Not whether twinks existed or not prior to xp-off changes. When twinks, AND ONLY TWINKS, gets put into ONE BRACKET (xpoff), then that effectively makes it a TWINK BRACKET. Not a hard concept to understand. It's not about whether twinks existed prior to these changes or not. It's about the bracket definition.
Brackets with only twinks = twink bracket
vet/f2p = leveler bracket, because the game doesn't differentiate them from levelers whatsoever.
tomxoqt
Grandfathered
I don't understand, so was 10-19 not a twink bracket before? I remember having a pretty great time on my 19 MM in wrath
Kracks
Professional Button Pusher
It would basically be insta pops once enough people were queuing
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As someone who was regularly in his premades those games were mostly boring as hell compared to 19s after the separation. And WSG (a way better bg than AB/EOTS) would never pop and when it did it was mostly one-sided games.