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Thats not what i was getting at, i was just saying i was suprised how much knife violence is in the UK.

"Most sources will show that the USA has similar or higher knife crime than the UK."

Ok so, heres some facts.

United States
is about 40 times bigger than United Kingdom.

the population of United Kingdom is ~64.4 million people (262.2 million more people live in United States).

262.2 million more people, and according to you. "Most sources will show that the USA has similar or higher knife crime than the UK."

Yeah, obviously.... The united states has 262.2 million more people, id expect it to have more knife violence. The fact the UK has even "similar" knife violence according to you is rediculous, i never argued that. I would of never made that statement and TBH i think the US has WAYYYY more knife violence, i was just suprised by how rampant it was in the UK

So u think its normal for the UK to have similar knife violence on par with a country with hundreds of millions more citizens.?

Per capita.
That's what I was comparing and what is used when comparing populations and the statistics based on them.
 
wow this thread escalated

as for the solution, it's simple and called UBI.

Here’s the thing about UBI - when it was originally suggested by say Friedman, it was as a complete replacement for all government freebies. In theory I could get on board with that approach. In practice though it won’t replace anything it will just be another giant entitlement on top of the $2.7 trillion a year we already piss down the toilet on them.

Also at this point there’s far too many lazy people in the US who don’t want to work. The UK has families where people literally don’t work for generations, ever. We don’t need that nonsense. It will ensure a permanent Democratic Party majority which will eventually bankrupt the country.
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Per capita.
That's what I was comparing and what is used when comparing populations and the statistics based on them.

Simply put we can’t really trust your stats as you cover up crimes committed by favored classes. I bet your stats say you have less child rapes too since you’re a bunch of cucks scared to do anything to stop people that hate you from raping your kids.
 
I'll argue for it. Though not for Lenin's interpretation because revolutionary vanguardism is kinda the opposite of building a strong working class consciousness

Yes, my comment was a bit off, I was with my mind really set on the more extreme socialism ways.
But with socialism having such a wide spectrum, I'd also argue for some of it :) But not too much for me, the further I would delve on it would probably be for a social market economy.

Or the new trend :) the eco-social market economy, cause frankly we all have to live on this planet
 
Yes, my comment was a bit off, I was with my mind really set on the more extreme socialism ways.
But with socialism having such a wide spectrum, I'd also argue for some of it :) But not too much for me, the further I would delve on it would probably be for a social market economy.

Or the new trend :) the eco-social market economy, cause frankly we all have to live on this planet
I think one of the biggest obstacles we face is something as simple as defining "socialism". And to be fair, not even Marx would really ever commit to directly defining it.

But yea, I think if most people sat down and talked about how they thought the economy should work, theyd stumble somewhere on the socialist spectrum without even really knowing it
 
Simply put we can’t really trust your stats as you cover up crimes committed by favored classes. I bet your stats say you have less child rapes too since you’re a bunch of cucks scared to do anything to stop people that hate you from raping your kids.

I take it your referring to the official statistics posted by the UK.
In which case you’re calling the kettle black coming from a country with one of the richest history’s in official scandals, coverups and misinforming the public.

You’re a walking contradiction typing out the first steamy shit your brain conjures.
 
I think it's also worth noting how hard to the right the American concept of capitalism has shifted.

Even Adam Smith advocated for the necessity of strong unions and even believed the minimum wage should be double the cost of living. If he published The Wealth of Nations today, he'd be derided as commie scum by the mainstream of the GOP
 
This conversation on a world of warcraft tink site is sure to make waves in the political realm. Congrats to all u keyboard heroes for ur (wasted) efforts.
 
Conversations within a community of peers is exactly how change is made.

Ah right. I forgot gubmint cheeze is reading tinkinfo, just like blizzard reads tinkinfo and takes our opinion/suggestions into strong consideration before making decisions.

Wall o' text away, @Chops, if you think it's the best use of your time/effort. Based on the demographics of this website I dont think I'd waste my time arguing here, but to each their own

Fake edit: surely u realize after all these yrs am just torll
 
the most immediate bandaid for this issue is to stop glorifying mass shooters / terrorism / domestic terrorism / serial killers in the news media. thats what they want and a lot of the time thats what their ultimate motive is
 
the most immediate bandaid for this issue is to stop glorifying mass shooters / terrorism / domestic terrorism / serial killers in the news media. thats what they want and a lot of the time thats what their ultimate motive is
no just stop giving stupid people any kind of access to guns. if that means banning guns from the public then thats what we gotta do. i doubt most of these brain damaged morons would be able to figure out how to get them illegally. also be real do u rlly think news stations are going to just ignore a mass shooting ever?
 
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Really the only things that us ordinary citizens can do outside of push for bullshit laws that aren't going to work are two things:
1: Be nice to the creepy weirdos 2: Since we are who in the US are notoriously inadequate at being nice to the creepy weirdos, be really fucking mean after one of them snaps and shoots some place up. Find out their motive, make it look stupid (because it is), point out every flaw the perpetrator has, Find pictures of the individual, footage even, and meme the shit out of them. Any person that does a mass shooting should be ridiculed and roasted by everyone. Shoot a place up, be remembered as a nothing but a joke.

I really think the internet's greatest shitposter was on to something in this video:

Instead of all this "it was white supremacy" or "far left" or "mental health", instead of talking about guns, just roast these people as brutally as possible.
 
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