rockworldofwarcraft
Veteran
One thing can be agreed upon... all of this is EXACTLY why I come to this forum.
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Chops
Soccer Dad
as opposed to the realistic 20 warrior experience of having 100% uptime on three targets and a spammable WW?
Chops
Soccer Dad
gear doesnt exist in a vacuum
rockworldofwarcraft
Veteran
No you are too stupid to see that the two are linked directly. Can I use 2 Destinies on any other class/spec... no I can't have a Dual wield Destiny Disco Priest. Fury is the ONLY FUCKING SPEC that is relevant to your conversation... you complete idiot.
So what ever shortcomings Fury has Destiny(s) suffer the EXACT same shortcomings. The main one being that Fury is easily CCed (unless again you are farming retards) and there for the procs are not up as much as your little video of you going HYPER-fucking-ACTIVE on a training dummy.
The i49s (and really i34 or Hellscreams are basically there as well) do their business at the same capacity and you don't have to wait for a proc... and if you dont have a crusader proc or a destiny proc.. .which guess what!!!!??? HAPPENS a lot...the i49 BURIES the statless Destiny.
JEE ZUZ...shut the fuck up.
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Conzil
F2P Legend
Nah, we just found it easier to farm ilvl 49 day 1 :*
Chops
Soccer Dad
your persecution complex is exhausting
ohti
Guest
Looks like enough for nearly two kits. http://www.wow-professions.com/wowguides/wow-alchemy-leveling-lower-levels some RNG involved but you have extras of everything.
While I know your intentions are good, please refrain from de-railing threads in the future. Thanks!
Warglave
Veteran
Careful, pretty soon he'll just relegate your argument to "defending your ilvl 49 artifact"...
toskosa
Grandfathered
I already asked this as well but he just ignored it.
mirrorbender
Grandfathered
I've asked twice. Keep your hopes as low as they can possibly go.
rockworldofwarcraft
Veteran
Again, tho... nobody is saying (I hope) that Destiny is not going to wreck... but comparing it to double broken mcbokner shit like an i49 is just nonsense.
If you are new or you are on the fence... don't think that Destiny is bad... it is just not BiS.
If you are new or you are on the fence... don't think that Destiny is bad... it is just not BiS.
Illeezz
Grandfathered
this thread is lead by so much ego lmao
comon folks..
its a tradeoff, and there are so many factors playing into which wep combination is the best choice in a given situation.
numbers vs numbers
sustain vs RNG-based burst
anyways.. since i own 2 Destiny(s) on my warr
here's some quick data:
[doublepost=1609285311,1609285201][/doublepost]Can you put out more dmg with double Destiny in certain situations, than with ilvl 49 artifacts? -Yes (especially if used with other things that benefit from pure mainstats)
Is it optimal running around with Destiny all the time? -No (trading off sustain for RNGezuz prayer obv isn't always the smartest thing to do)
Ofc Destiny can be an potential game-changer, so can Rivendare, Mug'O Hurt, or even Vibro's.
Welcome to an RPG.
Destiny is a decent tool, still variety is key.
If you swap during downtimes, using situational awareness, you can make it worth it.
If you're too lazy for that, and want the simplistic way of playing, then go fixed stats or w/e is the most "fun" for you. Be prepared to get into ego-battles with other twinkie-neckbeards questioning your gameplay then.
when it comes to uptime, i dont have any precise data for you rn (just logged in to take the screens real quick, barely playing the game atm), but i found it to procc slightly less than crusader (maybe 15% less), barely noticeable. All in all, a decent enough uptime to make it an SITUATIONAL consideration.
...
TLDR: Is Destiny BiS? -Occasionally (depends on ur gameplay, build, roll, team, situation)
Destiny can be an decent tool, if you know when/how to use it.
some info for those toying with the idea of grabbing an Destiny or nah:
comon folks..
its a tradeoff, and there are so many factors playing into which wep combination is the best choice in a given situation.
numbers vs numbers
sustain vs RNG-based burst
anyways.. since i own 2 Destiny(s) on my warr
here's some quick data:
42 Artifacts with 2 crus proccs
vs
2 Destiny proccs with crus
vs
2 Destiny proccs with crus
Can you put out more dmg with double Destiny in certain situations, than with ilvl 49 artifacts? -Yes (especially if used with other gadgets that benefit from pure mainstats)
Is it optimal running around with Destiny all the time? -No (trading off sustain for RNGezuz prayer obviously can be pretty stupid)
Ofc Destiny can be an potential game-changer, so can Rivendare, Mug'O Hurt, or even Vibro's.
Welcome to an RPG.
Destiny is a decent tool, still variety is key.
If you swap during downtimes, situational awareness, you can make it worth it.
If you're too lazy for that, and want simplistic gameplay, then i'd always go with fixed stats. but w/e just go with whats most "fun" for you, i guess. Be prepared to get into ego-battles with other twinkie-neckbeards questioning your gameplay then.
when it comes to uptime, i dont have any precise data for you rn (just logged in to take the screens real quick, not playing the game atm), but i found it to procc slightly less than crusader (maybe 15% less), barely noticeable. All in all, a decent enough uptime to make it an SITUATIONAL consideration.
...
TLDR: Is Destiny BiS? -Occasionally (depends on ur gameplay, build, roll, team, situation)
Destiny can be an decent tool, if you know when/how to use it.
some info for those toying with the idea of grabbing an Destiny or nah:
Is it optimal running around with Destiny all the time? -No (trading off sustain for RNGezuz prayer obviously can be pretty stupid)
Ofc Destiny can be an potential game-changer, so can Rivendare, Mug'O Hurt, or even Vibro's.
Welcome to an RPG.
Destiny is a decent tool, still variety is key.
If you swap during downtimes, situational awareness, you can make it worth it.
If you're too lazy for that, and want simplistic gameplay, then i'd always go with fixed stats. but w/e just go with whats most "fun" for you, i guess. Be prepared to get into ego-battles with other twinkie-neckbeards questioning your gameplay then.
when it comes to uptime, i dont have any precise data for you rn (just logged in to take the screens real quick, not playing the game atm), but i found it to procc slightly less than crusader (maybe 15% less), barely noticeable. All in all, a decent enough uptime to make it an SITUATIONAL consideration.
...
TLDR: Is Destiny BiS? -Occasionally (depends on ur gameplay, build, roll, team, situation)
Destiny can be an decent tool, if you know when/how to use it.
some info for those toying with the idea of grabbing an Destiny or nah:
Would i recommend it?
If you like the "let the stars align and adapt" type of gameplay, sure why not. Some people find it fun, others hate it. can defo do some interesting stuff with it.
There are some builds, talents and even race choices, that make it more effective.
Examples:
Vulpera Racial scales with AP. And let me tell ya, if you're able to stack proccs, it can mean insta-death for your opponent. or be the saving "Lay on Hands" for you and your mates.
Stacking it with "Death Wish" talent lets you 1shot even tanky opponents.
If you're stuck in an ongoing midfight backed up by healers on both sides, stacking proccs, use time-window to take out the leading heal with an quick vulp>execute, can obv turn around an game.
If you like the "let the stars align and adapt" type of gameplay, sure why not. Some people find it fun, others hate it. can defo do some interesting stuff with it.
There are some builds, talents and even race choices, that make it more effective.
Examples:
Vulpera Racial scales with AP. And let me tell ya, if you're able to stack proccs, it can mean insta-death for your opponent. or be the saving "Lay on Hands" for you and your mates.
Stacking it with "Death Wish" talent lets you 1shot even tanky opponents.
If you're stuck in an ongoing midfight backed up by healers on both sides, stacking proccs, use time-window to take out the leading heal with an quick vulp>execute, can obv turn around an game.
Btw
the only wep combo i'd ever use over ilvl 49 artifacts as an "allrounder", would be Singing Crystal Axe/Jackhammers. furys with that shit gonna destroy even with 1 procc. GL getting two!
the only wep combo i'd ever use over ilvl 49 artifacts as an "allrounder", would be Singing Crystal Axe/Jackhammers. furys with that shit gonna destroy even with 1 procc. GL getting two!
Is it optimal running around with Destiny all the time? -No (trading off sustain for RNGezuz prayer obv isn't always the smartest thing to do)
Ofc Destiny can be an potential game-changer, so can Rivendare, Mug'O Hurt, or even Vibro's.
Welcome to an RPG.
Destiny is a decent tool, still variety is key.
If you swap during downtimes, using situational awareness, you can make it worth it.
If you're too lazy for that, and want the simplistic way of playing, then go fixed stats or w/e is the most "fun" for you. Be prepared to get into ego-battles with other twinkie-neckbeards questioning your gameplay then.
when it comes to uptime, i dont have any precise data for you rn (just logged in to take the screens real quick, barely playing the game atm), but i found it to procc slightly less than crusader (maybe 15% less), barely noticeable. All in all, a decent enough uptime to make it an SITUATIONAL consideration.
...
TLDR: Is Destiny BiS? -Occasionally (depends on ur gameplay, build, roll, team, situation)
Destiny can be an decent tool, if you know when/how to use it.
some info for those toying with the idea of grabbing an Destiny or nah:
Would i recommend grabbing yourself some Destiny(s)?
If you like the "let the stars align and adapt" type of gameplay, sure why not. Some people find it fun, others hate it.
There are some builds, talents and even race choices, that make it more effective.
Examples:
Vulpera Racial scales with AP. And let me tell ya, if you're able to stack proccs, it can mean insta-death for your opponent. or be the saving "Lay on Hands" for you and your mates.
If you're stuck in an ongoing midfight backed up by healers on both sides, stacking proccs (preferably in combination with riskyrisky "Death Wish" talent), using a timewindow to charge in and take out the leading healer, can obv turn around an game.
If you like the "let the stars align and adapt" type of gameplay, sure why not. Some people find it fun, others hate it.
There are some builds, talents and even race choices, that make it more effective.
Examples:
Vulpera Racial scales with AP. And let me tell ya, if you're able to stack proccs, it can mean insta-death for your opponent. or be the saving "Lay on Hands" for you and your mates.
If you're stuck in an ongoing midfight backed up by healers on both sides, stacking proccs (preferably in combination with riskyrisky "Death Wish" talent), using a timewindow to charge in and take out the leading healer, can obv turn around an game.
Btw
the only wep combo i'd ever use over ilvl 49 artifacts as an "allrounder", would be Singing Crystal Axe/Jackhammers. furys with that shit gonna destroy. GL getting two!
the only wep combo i'd ever use over ilvl 49 artifacts as an "allrounder", would be Singing Crystal Axe/Jackhammers. furys with that shit gonna destroy. GL getting two!
rockworldofwarcraft
Veteran
Honestly the video showed the EXACT/ONLY situation where Destiny beats out the other tier 1 weapons.
Illeezz
Grandfathered
Agreed
Not really worth using single-target (unless you get really lucky).
It CAN work out, occasionally even the charge proccs double Destiny, followed by 2 Crus's. its not THAT rare tbh. but defo not reliable enough.
In midfights however, it can play a big role.
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kam
OG
i also have 2 destiny swords at 20 and i 2nd all he is sayingthis thread is lead by so much ego lmao
comon folks..
its a tradeoff, and there are so many factors playing into which wep combination is the best choice in a given situation.
numbers vs numbers
sustain vs RNG-based burst
anyways.. since i own 2 Destiny(s) on my warr
here's some quick data:
[doublepost=1609285311,1609285201][/doublepost]Can you put out more dmg with double Destiny in certain situations, than with ilvl 49 artifacts? -Yes (especially if used with other things that benefit from pure mainstats)42 Artifacts with 2 crus proccs
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2 Destiny proccs with crus
View attachment 17888
Can you put out more dmg with double Destiny in certain situations, than with ilvl 49 artifacts? -Yes (especially if used with other gadgets that benefit from pure mainstats)
Is it optimal running around with Destiny all the time? -No (trading off sustain for RNGezuz prayer obviously can be pretty stupid)
Ofc Destiny can be an potential game-changer, so can Rivendare, Mug'O Hurt, or even Vibro's.
Welcome to an RPG.
Destiny is a decent tool, still variety is key.
If you swap during downtimes, situational awareness, you can make it worth it.
If you're too lazy for that, and want simplistic gameplay, then i'd always go with fixed stats. but w/e just go with whats most "fun" for you, i guess. Be prepared to get into ego-battles with other twinkie-neckbeards questioning your gameplay then.
when it comes to uptime, i dont have any precise data for you rn (just logged in to take the screens real quick, not playing the game atm), but i found it to procc slightly less than crusader (maybe 15% less), barely noticeable. All in all, a decent enough uptime to make it an SITUATIONAL consideration.
...
TLDR: Is Destiny BiS? -Occasionally (depends on ur gameplay, build, roll, team, situation)
Destiny can be an decent tool, if you know when/how to use it.
some info for those toying with the idea of grabbing an Destiny or nah:
Would i recommend it?
If you like the "let the stars align and adapt" type of gameplay, sure why not. Some people find it fun, others hate it. can defo do some interesting stuff with it.
There are some builds, talents and even race choices, that make it more effective.
Examples:
Vulpera Racial scales with AP. And let me tell ya, if you're able to stack proccs, it can mean insta-death for your opponent. or be the saving "Lay on Hands" for you and your mates.
Stacking it with "Death Wish" talent lets you 1shot even tanky opponents.
If you're stuck in an ongoing midfight backed up by healers on both sides, stacking proccs, use time-window to take out the leading heal with an quick vulp>execute, can obv turn around an game.
Btw
the only wep combo i'd ever use over ilvl 49 artifacts as an "allrounder", would be Singing Crystal Axe/Jackhammers. furys with that shit gonna destroy even with 1 procc. GL getting two!
Is it optimal running around with Destiny all the time? -No (trading off sustain for RNGezuz prayer obv isn't always the smartest thing to do)
Ofc Destiny can be an potential game-changer, so can Rivendare, Mug'O Hurt, or even Vibro's.
Welcome to an RPG.
Destiny is a decent tool, still variety is key.
If you swap during downtimes, using situational awareness, you can make it worth it.
If you're too lazy for that, and want the simplistic way of playing, then go fixed stats or w/e is the most "fun" for you. Be prepared to get into ego-battles with other twinkie-neckbeards questioning your gameplay then.
when it comes to uptime, i dont have any precise data for you rn (just logged in to take the screens real quick, barely playing the game atm), but i found it to procc slightly less than crusader (maybe 15% less), barely noticeable. All in all, a decent enough uptime to make it an SITUATIONAL consideration.
...
TLDR: Is Destiny BiS? -Occasionally (depends on ur gameplay, build, roll, team, situation)
Destiny can be an decent tool, if you know when/how to use it.
some info for those toying with the idea of grabbing an Destiny or nah:
Would i recommend grabbing yourself some Destiny(s)?
If you like the "let the stars align and adapt" type of gameplay, sure why not. Some people find it fun, others hate it.
There are some builds, talents and even race choices, that make it more effective.
Examples:
Vulpera Racial scales with AP. And let me tell ya, if you're able to stack proccs, it can mean insta-death for your opponent. or be the saving "Lay on Hands" for you and your mates.
If you're stuck in an ongoing midfight backed up by healers on both sides, stacking proccs (preferably in combination with riskyrisky "Death Wish" talent), using a timewindow to charge in and take out the leading healer, can obv turn around an game.
Btw
the only wep combo i'd ever use over ilvl 49 artifacts as an "allrounder", would be Singing Crystal Axe/Jackhammers. furys with that shit gonna destroy. GL getting two!
I prefer armsarifact + rivendare in offhand myself. Sometimes its fun with dual destiny 
