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Skulliedoo
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Just as a note, the TBC items are quite low in mainstat values compared to mythic Ny'alotha gear, so you'll be sacrificing quite a lot of mainstat and stam at 50 if you go for this route.
If you're aiming to PvE and progress in Ny'alotha, I'm not sure how many people would be doing that currently. Any friend with around ilvl 480 should be able to solo mythic Ny'alotha to get you gear, however.
I don't have a ooze or totem on this char yet as I've been trying to replace my downscaled ilvl 130 ny'alotha gear. Thanks, Blizzard btw.
If you're aiming to PvE and progress in Ny'alotha, I'm not sure how many people would be doing that currently. Any friend with around ilvl 480 should be able to solo mythic Ny'alotha to get you gear, however.
I don't have a ooze or totem on this char yet as I've been trying to replace my downscaled ilvl 130 ny'alotha gear. Thanks, Blizzard btw.
Furiosodemar
Veteran
Gonna be honest. I kept my 50 from BFA, I have updated the Nya gear and he has all the good essences on a solid HOA neck AND...it feels meh. I have tried the TBC gear and it is more meh, worse. I am simply saying it is A LOT of work to get the HOA up to speed and the cloak plus the essences (unless you farmed them on another toon) and at the end of all that it is just ok rn. I keep the guy updated and do a Black Empire quest ever now and again in the hope it all may change but from my experience, it is not great right now, just ok.
I will never abandon the 50, it has a lot of potential if Blizz fixes a couple of things but it is not spectacular like it was very recently.
If you want 50 b/c the idea of a lowby twink with few buttons is unappealing 60 is in a much better place in terms of how twinky you can make the toon feel. 60 is OK+ in that regard.
I will never abandon the 50, it has a lot of potential if Blizz fixes a couple of things but it is not spectacular like it was very recently.
If you want 50 b/c the idea of a lowby twink with few buttons is unappealing 60 is in a much better place in terms of how twinky you can make the toon feel. 60 is OK+ in that regard.
Warlockhomes
Grandfathered
So i am having an awesome time on my ret, but I am lv55, I dont do anything with any communities, I just enjoy finding fun twinks and hitting lv55 on ret, allowed me to really fill out the talent tree, with FInal Reckoning and DIvine Toll etc. I miss a bit of DoT damage etc compared to lv80s but nothing stays alive that long anyways. So at 55 i basically have my lv80 rotation.
I slap, hard, im using Mythic Nya Gear for the Azerite peices only, my HOA is lv78, il finish it to 80 today, essences are crap, so thats my farm now.
I dont use the ooze thing, is it worth that much? i know it was crazy hard at low level but ive not tried it higher.
i run with Irideus Fragment for the insane Burst with Final Reckoning every 3 mins and hunger of the pack from Halls of Valor, as it gives nice str/crit and a juicy % to movement speed per kill. 114 base speed and 132 after each kill, im tempted with Rivendare Epic sword for more movement speed and 3k Hp/5 baseline.
il be keeping mine 55 mid way, because the scaling on the gear gets insane as u go from 50-60 and being 60 the azerite pieces would be ilvl278 vs normal gear at like 332 compared to normal gear being 294 at lv55.
If you hunt through the dungeon Journal as well you can see that there are deffo BiS slots, that give you more value per item, for example the last item i have to hunt is "Greaves of the Martyr" from Old Hillsbrad Foothills, cuz they give u 3 sockets along with very similar secondary stats in the form of crit/haste as every other leg peice, so its basically just 3 extra sockets for free!
I thought about 60 but from what i can see, the Legendary crafts dont scale up i havent tested but you buy the base pieces at like ilvl 235 or something i cant remember now. but its guna be massively down compared to 332 gear by default.
I havent tested yet if the perks of the Shadowlands trees work outside of shadowlands, i know the Azerite doesnt work in there, so thats a bit annoying.
I slap, hard, im using Mythic Nya Gear for the Azerite peices only, my HOA is lv78, il finish it to 80 today, essences are crap, so thats my farm now.
I dont use the ooze thing, is it worth that much? i know it was crazy hard at low level but ive not tried it higher.
i run with Irideus Fragment for the insane Burst with Final Reckoning every 3 mins and hunger of the pack from Halls of Valor, as it gives nice str/crit and a juicy % to movement speed per kill. 114 base speed and 132 after each kill, im tempted with Rivendare Epic sword for more movement speed and 3k Hp/5 baseline.
il be keeping mine 55 mid way, because the scaling on the gear gets insane as u go from 50-60 and being 60 the azerite pieces would be ilvl278 vs normal gear at like 332 compared to normal gear being 294 at lv55.
If you hunt through the dungeon Journal as well you can see that there are deffo BiS slots, that give you more value per item, for example the last item i have to hunt is "Greaves of the Martyr" from Old Hillsbrad Foothills, cuz they give u 3 sockets along with very similar secondary stats in the form of crit/haste as every other leg peice, so its basically just 3 extra sockets for free!
I thought about 60 but from what i can see, the Legendary crafts dont scale up i havent tested but you buy the base pieces at like ilvl 235 or something i cant remember now. but its guna be massively down compared to 332 gear by default.
I havent tested yet if the perks of the Shadowlands trees work outside of shadowlands, i know the Azerite doesnt work in there, so thats a bit annoying.
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Krater
Member
So I made a quick surv hunter 50 twink to do the classic TW stuff since they nerfed timewalking gear and it actually seems really good, especially multi target in dungeons....like 10x everyone else's damage overall for the run. Should be the same for any chromie time dungeons. Not quite as overpowered as a 10 or 11 that regens their entire health pool every 10 sec, but a lot more interesting with all the extra abilities. A bit squishy, but no problems soloing dungeons.
I think 50 is a bit of a sweet spot right now because the mythic nya gear is so much higher ilvl than anything else you can get normally (warforged, etc). 20th world bosses also drop 278 right now. If you get lucky with nya drops you are talking just a few hours (not including leveling) to be ready to go if you can get an 80 to carry you.
Essences only work in Bfa now, but azerite armor should work everywhere except DF and SL. Some of the azerite abilities don't work anymore because of the talent changes, but Heart of Darkness to give extra secondary stats is a solid choice available on all Nya azerite. Humming black dragonscale is probably the best trinket, the proc has massive uptime.
Sadly it doesn't seem like nya drops can proc sockets or terts anymore, and the gouged eye of nzoth doesn't work on the new nya drops (still looks like it might work on the non-updated ilvl 100-125 stuff from horrific visions or the invasion caches, but kinda pointless) You can loot/buy the 278 BOE ring that has a socket, and add a socket to the belt.
If you've already done bfa an an alt you can do the nazjatar questline to boost the HoA to lvl 50 right after you get it. You have to do most of the legendary cloak questline to unlock nya (unless you warlock summon in), but the cloak is mostly worthless now since ilvl hasnt been updated. You can skip a couple of the scenarios if you have done them before. No real reason to do horrific visions and level up cloak unless you want to buy rank 3 essences from mother (only useful for bfa content). If you do decide to do visions I recommend a 5 mask carry by high level, you can just let your lvl 50 die at the entrance and you still get full rewards (except for the scattered chests once you unlock them). It really cuts down on the timegating since mats for the vessels are limited. If you are going to do visions make sure you get your cloak before you run nya and before you open your invasion caches from the questline so that you get extra echoes of nyalotha.
Get a 278 cloak from 20th world bosses or a 274 from eternal palace for general use. HoA isn't too bad at ilvl 252, but you might be able to get a 278 neck from the 20th world bosses for use in SL or DF where azerite is disabled. A triple socket DF dungeon neck would probably also be good.
I think 50 is a bit of a sweet spot right now because the mythic nya gear is so much higher ilvl than anything else you can get normally (warforged, etc). 20th world bosses also drop 278 right now. If you get lucky with nya drops you are talking just a few hours (not including leveling) to be ready to go if you can get an 80 to carry you.
Essences only work in Bfa now, but azerite armor should work everywhere except DF and SL. Some of the azerite abilities don't work anymore because of the talent changes, but Heart of Darkness to give extra secondary stats is a solid choice available on all Nya azerite. Humming black dragonscale is probably the best trinket, the proc has massive uptime.
Sadly it doesn't seem like nya drops can proc sockets or terts anymore, and the gouged eye of nzoth doesn't work on the new nya drops (still looks like it might work on the non-updated ilvl 100-125 stuff from horrific visions or the invasion caches, but kinda pointless) You can loot/buy the 278 BOE ring that has a socket, and add a socket to the belt.
If you've already done bfa an an alt you can do the nazjatar questline to boost the HoA to lvl 50 right after you get it. You have to do most of the legendary cloak questline to unlock nya (unless you warlock summon in), but the cloak is mostly worthless now since ilvl hasnt been updated. You can skip a couple of the scenarios if you have done them before. No real reason to do horrific visions and level up cloak unless you want to buy rank 3 essences from mother (only useful for bfa content). If you do decide to do visions I recommend a 5 mask carry by high level, you can just let your lvl 50 die at the entrance and you still get full rewards (except for the scattered chests once you unlock them). It really cuts down on the timegating since mats for the vessels are limited. If you are going to do visions make sure you get your cloak before you run nya and before you open your invasion caches from the questline so that you get extra echoes of nyalotha.
Get a 278 cloak from 20th world bosses or a 274 from eternal palace for general use. HoA isn't too bad at ilvl 252, but you might be able to get a 278 neck from the 20th world bosses for use in SL or DF where azerite is disabled. A triple socket DF dungeon neck would probably also be good.
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Pokerface
Grandfathered
As far as 50s go mythic nyalotha gear is the way to go with DF gems. Even though HoA essences are broken right now . I primarily run my 50 but have an 80 frost dk on my 2nd account I'd be happy to help you gear in nyalotha . Shoot me a msg and we can get it going.
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Krater
Member
My 50 survival hunter is fun, but if your planning on running dungeons thru lfg then being able to queue as a tank will speed things up a lot.
Charicore
Grandfathered
Which tank do you think will do good then?
Krater
Member
I don't have any other 50s yet, but I've got a 60 pally that seems pretty good. I haven't tried the others tho, so idk. I usually just change back to ret after getting in the dungeon, once you're geared you should be doing enough damage to just hold agro that way. All of the chromie time queues are pretty bad right now tho, I think everyone is just hitting the classic tw stuff.
For 50s I assume you are wanting to use azerite, so just check the azerite armor from nya and see which classes have good traits. For surv hunter i just went with 3x primeval intuition (works out to basically a full time 17% crit buff), and 3x heart of darkness for the extra secondary stats.
Merlin
Grandfathered
not sure if there is a big diff between 40s and 50s twink for pve .. but for str users in the 40s, you can use the 12str+12stam gem from heroic bc, its quite a big primary stat increment if all your gears are fully socketed (29 sockets, if both your trinkets socketed too, then 31)