4-Man PuG VS. 5 Man Holy Crit Premade
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Conq
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I fundamentally disagree, I think that some people who would otherwise participate in getting a premade team going may be discouraged because they believe there is no chance at success, this video serves well to encourage those who fit into that category, and while this match is certainly a far cry from what a 10v10 scheduled premade would look like, it serves almost as a trailer of what will hopefully be soon to come (weekly 10v10s would be nice for the bracket, i'm sure you can agree) I'm sure HC would more than welcome a team that actually offers them a challenge, face rolling kids gets boring after a while.
Not only that but the entirety of the bracket seems to have almost apotheosized HC, which really discourages competition and is all around unhealthy for the community. This will hopefully help discourage that state of mind.
Mind you i'm not saying HC is bad or unskilled, I haven't been in this bracket long enough to come to a conclusion in that regard.
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OP
OP
Discord
Legend
The point of FCing is to avoid the enemy team at all costs so you can safely cross mid field.
Getting attacked 3 times in a 3 cap game is good, is it not? FCing is by no means the most fun thing to watch, but I think Shyheals did a great job of FCing in this game, 5 people in vent were not able to get to him.
OP
OP
Discord
Legend
They had four 24s whom hadNEVER played together, they were not using voice chat (that is Shyheals talking to our friend Dylan whom does not twink). Holy Crit have played together many times and were very likely using ventrilo.
They had the advantage: more 24s, voice chat, synergy.
Although I do agree, some 10v10s are in order.
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OP
OP
Discord
Legend
Are you calling the guilds themselves mediocre partials? Or the teams?
Jadyne
39 Evangelist
This will come off as nit-picky, but it's actually important: don't say "a 10v10", say "10v10s" The goal should never ever be to hold a single 10v10. The end goal should always be to hold many 10v10s, over time. If you talk about the singular, people will get super worked up over it, and either refuse to face each other, or will quit after one game, thinking they'll never get or give a rematch.
Dorigon
Alpha and Omega
Partial implies partial premade, as in queuing with less than ten people.
Shaket
Legend
It is a Mod insulting someone. It is not appropriate for a Moderator of a forum to insult and troll. Even if the Moderator is your friend, Mesi.
When you are a few years older, you will understand why.
Mesikämmen
pwner
If you actually read the post, you would understand it was neither insulting or trolling. Even if the moderator is my friend, Shaket.
Dorigon
Alpha and Omega
Right, guy who could barely communicate in English when he started posting here criticizing others' reading comprehension.
Mesikämmen
pwner
Elaborate plx m8? Pretty sure you are confusing me with someone else.
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Shaket
Legend
You suck @ game. Your gameplay is boring. You are bad. Your 'taste' in music is beyond terrible. Having you on their team makes people want to /slitwrists.
Now, I'll just get one of my friends come and say my words were not insults, and I won't have insulted you....right...
It's long past time that you re-read "ESL for Dummies".
Mesikämmen
pwner
Like I said, they are only insults if the target feels like getting insulted. If you do, well then the insults were probably words of truth rather than insults...
Like Jadyne said: Whatgoesups criticism maybe wasn't that constructive or helpful, but it was not trolling or deliberately insulting either.
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Shaket
Legend
in·sult
verb
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inˈsəlt/
verb
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inˈsəlt/
- 1.
speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse.
[COLOR=#878787 !important]"you're insulting the woman I love"[/COLOR]
synonyms: abuse, be rude to, slight, disparage, discredit, libel, slander, malign,defame, denigrate, cast aspersions on, call someone names, put someone down; More
^ A fairly typical definition of the word. Seems there is nothing in any of the definitions of insult, that refers to "if the target feels like getting insulted".
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Jadyne
39 Evangelist
"We're talking about words", amirite?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ISil7IHzxc
Sorry guys, but it's silly to be trying to construct some notion that there was "evil intent" here. I'd be more interested in hearing examples of better responses, because at this point, Shaket, you're behaving as bad as Whatgoesup. Perhaps worse, because you recognized the problem and are perpetuating it, rather than deciding to stop it and change our direction to something more constructive. All I see now is condescension. =/
Shaket
Legend
The thing is, I'm not a Moderator. My behavior on these forums shouldn't be taken as a template, or role-model, for the behavior expected on the forums, MY behavior, unlike that, say, of a MODERATOR. No moderator should be coming into threads and flat-out insulting to posters. I don't even know who the OP is, I likely haven't even been in a bg with him if he's a 20-24 tink. I do, however, recognize a plain and clear insult when I see one, and I do not see that behavior as appropriate for a representative of a website purporting to have a goal of decent 'welcoming' forum discussion.
