340 ilvl epics for 110-119?

sevenohseven said:
you’re a real life idoit if you think any of what you listed is the same as getting the arathi pieces.
relics for 101’s were looted normally in pve and were boe. you didnt have to be in a group, not even in the same phase a get loot. thats not how it works.these 340 items DO require you to be 120 because ONLY 120’s can be in the phased zone.

cheating hasnt ever been part of twinking for people who arent garbage. you can twink well within the boundries blizzard gives us and do just fine. everyone with an agm under level 35 got it the old fashioned way and looted the pieces. not in the group but out of the phased instance.

you and broken english guy both know youre breaking the ToS so stop trying to justify it. admit you’re a pile of shit and we can all move on.
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This has nothing to do with the 'Phasing mechanic' and everything to do with the 'Scaling mechanic'. If Blizzard didn't want it to be available to 110s they wouldn't have allowed the items to scale to 110. That simple. Regardless of location (phase) of mob. Blizzard, don't tell me I can't use something but let it scale down to my level. That's just a bad business model.
 
sevenohseven said:
you’re a real life idoit if you think any of what you listed is the same as getting the arathi pieces.
relics for 101’s were looted normally in pve and were boe. you didnt have to be in a group, not even in the same phase a get loot. thats not how it works.these 340 items DO require you to be 120 because ONLY 120’s can be in the phased zone.

cheating hasnt ever been part of twinking for people who arent garbage. you can twink well within the boundries blizzard gives us and do just fine. everyone with an agm under level 35 got it the old fashioned way and looted the pieces. not in the group but out of the phased instance.

you and broken english guy both know youre breaking the ToS so stop trying to justify it. admit you’re a pile of shit and we can all move on.
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Uhm...is your period on?

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sevenohseven said:
you’re a real life idoit if you think any of what you listed is the same as getting the arathi pieces.
relics for 101’s were looted normally in pve and were boe. you didnt have to be in a group, not even in the same phase a get loot. thats not how it works.these 340 items DO require you to be 120 because ONLY 120’s can be in the phased zone.

cheating hasnt ever been part of twinking for people who arent garbage. you can twink well within the boundries blizzard gives us and do just fine. everyone with an agm under level 35 got it the old fashioned way and looted the pieces. not in the group but out of the phased instance.

you and broken english guy both know youre breaking the ToS so stop trying to justify it. admit you’re a pile of shit and we can all move on.
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Yes, calling people names really helps convince people of the validity of your arguments.... /s

Here's the thing... the AGM was designed as level 60ish loot (basically the same ilevel), the fact that the loophole you used to get it had to do with Blizzard forgetting to put a level check on the quest instead of the 340 gear being available because of phasing is basically just a matter of semantics. Broken phasing (which has happened in the past, and continues to happen to this day) should have at the most resulted in 340s dropping that required level 120 to use.

Lets be even more realistic... the AGM loophole went unfixed for so long because even though it's nice to have on a twink, it's actual impact on the game was relatively minor. Had you been able to get a full set of ilevel 55 gear at 10/19/29/etc, maybe it would have been fixed faster.

Same with the relics, regardless of the fact that you "looted them normally" (like that fucking matters lol) they still had a relatively minor impact on the game because the game was already clearly including the capabilities 101s being able to get crazy powerful gear through legendaries and BoEs... and on their own they had a relatively minor impact.

Being able to get 340 gear was only treated as a ToS violation not because of phasing, but because of the fact that you could deck your character out in it (aside from rings/trinkets) and have an INSANE impact on the players around you, and especially to their detriment.

Had the phasing bug given you 280/295 gear, no one would have gotten banned, although it probably would have gotten fixed.

But hell, sure, keep pretending that the loopholes you've used to get gear in the past is any different than this one.

That said, responding to you is clearly a foolish endeavor in the first place, so I guess you can just go on calling people names and I'll just ignore you in the future.
 
Changing the level requirement for the 340s from 110 to 120 would be a VERY easy fix for Blizzard to implement, but they have not. Also, Blizzard only takes action whenever someone is reported for using the gear. They are not going out of their way to find people using the gear or trying to remove it in any way. If this doesn’t tell you how low this “exploit” is on Blizzard’s list of priorities, I don’t know what will.
Everybody I know that got suspended, including myself, received the email stating that “your fellow players reported you for cheating” essentially. And mostly everyone I know only received a 1 week suspension.
It seems like people like seven are the only ones that are actually hurt by the gear. What happened man? Did nobody tell you how to do it and you got mad? There has to be a reason that this is really hurting you.
Essentially, all I’m saying is if Blizzard really cared, they would do something about it. The only thing name-calling and reporting others is going to do is make you look like a dick that nobody in the twink community will want to play with.
 
youre both fucking idiots.

agm was changed because zones got base levels. the mob scale and quest levels in stv changed so agm is like every quest out there. i love the false equivalence though. not one part had to be looted by someone else while i was safely phased somewhere else. you had ZERO impact on killing the mob which gave you the exploited gear in Arathi. how would that play out in a pve raid? players could just be in the group to gear up and not stand in one fire? you’re seriously trying to tell me thats intended by blizzard?

you were banned for exploiting a bug. you can argue with me about it all you want and call it semantics. blizzard calls it cheating. im sorry you think you’re entitled to cheat and not be punished.
 
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Ok, and that’s your opinion. But had I not been reported by another player, I wouldn’t have been suspended. Blizzard didn’t find my account and suspend me. I was reported by numerous players, which resulted in Blizzard realizing I have the gear and suspending me. At this point, you care more about this than Blizz does. You seem to have some sort of raging hatred for anyone that has this gear. I don’t see Blizz looking for players with the gear. I don’t see them changing the level requirement. All they’re doing is suspending anyone that snowflakes like you report. Maybe WoW isn’t meant for you man. You should go vent to your therapist about this and see what they have to say.
Blizzard may call it cheating, but they sure as shit aren’t doing anything to stop it.
 
Pedophile* and no, I’m not saying that. But apparently, Blizz doesn’t think it’s wrong. Do you see them going out and looking for people with the gear? Do you see them changing the level requirement? That would literally be the most SIMPLE fix they could do. Take every piece of gear that drops from the rares, and simply raise the level to 120. But they aren’t even doing that. Why not?
 
Pressonekey said:
Pedophile* and no, I’m not saying that. But apparently, Blizz doesn’t think it’s wrong. Do you see them going out and looking for people with the gear? Do you see them changing the level requirement? That would literally be the most SIMPLE fix they could do. Take every piece of gear that drops from the rares, and simply raise the level to 120. But they aren’t even doing that. Why not?
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This makes a lot of sense and this is how I explained it to the GM when I found out that 340's were dropping. Early this week I was permabanned. So I repealed and now awaiting the response back.
 
Pressonekey said:
Changing the level requirement for the 340s from 110 to 120 would be a VERY easy fix for Blizzard to implement, but they have not.
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It's pretty simple to discover why it's got a 110 requirement on it and why Blizz hasn't changed it. They are the same item id # as the ones that drop from chests/etc for all of BFA (aka the ones that scale from 110+). The monsters in Arathi have a coding tag to drop at a minimum ilvl of +340, because they didn't expect for anything below lvl 120 to be able to get it. For them to change the level requirement on it they would have to create whole new items and change the item on every account that legitimately has it.
 
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YoungWalrus said:
This makes a lot of sense and this is how I explained it to the GM when I found out that 340's were dropping. Early this week I was permabanned. So I repealed and now awaiting the response back.
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You Youngwalrus that Tauren?

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Asildorian said:
Yeah your twink was leet, wish mine had been that geared lol

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Geared is having full titanforged mythic antorus gear
 
I think it's more correct to call even mythic Antorus gear marginal upgrades. Maybe 100-150 additional of your primary stat, and marginal increases to secondaries. Some of the trinkets have interesting effects, and the relics are still useful for our legendary weapons.
 
I'll throw in my two cents real quick with this: I think that people that abuse the gear are cheap. Simple as that. Blizzard might not be actively seeking out players with the gear, but they are suspending / banning people who are reported for using it. If it wasn't a problem then they would not bother doing even that. They made a mistake with the items as they do with some things every xpac. There is zero way that it was intended for 110s to go to Arathi with a 120 and get 120 gear, even though you aren't even in the same phase. Just because they aren't trying to fix it every week, doesn't mean that it isn't on their radar or agenda. It's like a teacher not collecting a homework assignment in school or handing out a paper, it just hasn't happened yet. How long did it take them to fix the beta problem where 110s could have dungeon gear traded to them by 120s? It was in for almost the entirety of the beta, but it was fixed. This isn't any different. It will take time, but it will be fixed at one point or another.
 
IF something can be gotten in the game, and a player gets it .. do you blame the players for being good or you blame the game programmers for being retards ? why do you employ such programmers ? blizz is not a poor small company. i do not read the terms of the game, i believe most people dont, those who do you have bit more time than most of us. the game is created by you (blizz entertainment) and we are here to play .. if you cannot patch your shit, dont blame the players, for those players who wasnt in the beta, you should know that throughout beta these 111 players were able to get these ilvl350 gears .. so blizz cannot claim they do not know it was a problem .. they could have simply set "requires 120" or something to prevent non-120 from using it .. BUT they didnt .. so what does that tells you about these blizz employees attitude ? i am for twinking .. a twink deploys every available means to aquire anything and everything that gives them an UNFAIR advantage over non-twinks .. that is my twinking philosophy
 
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