10-19 2015 TC Discussion, Planning, Indiegogo

Would you prefer a community stream or Gamers-League stream?

  • Community Stream

    Votes: 102 55.7%
  • Gamers-League

    Votes: 81 44.3%

  • Total voters
    183
You need to get your facts straight and wake up. Whoever wins the cup will receive roughly $600. That is nowhere near the actual amount that someone would actually need to declare as income. Making statements like yours may confuse people interested in participating.

For example, I've sold multiple items, ranging from designer clothing to old gaming consoles(etc). All of those I have sold for ~$500/each, all cash (or paypal). None of which have I declared as "income". Now, you may be saying, "but you sold a good! you didn't receive the money for nothing!". That is true, but you need to understand the key concept here. I have deposited cash in the $500-$1000 range multiple times to my bank, not declaring anything.

What you need to understand is that people deposit cash all the time, and receive cash all the time, for sometimes absolutely nothing! Now if you were to receive a briefcase of $40,000 and went to deposit that in the bank, you will need to take action, but for these nominal amounts (talking about the whole scheme of things, for the twink cup it is actually unreal!), nobody will need to declare it and pay taxes on it.

To further express my point, say you were to sell your own WoW account for an astounding $750. Would you need to pay taxes on that? Absolutely not. Now I am not saying I know the law perfectly, but I have common sense and think logically. The government is not capable of looking into everyone's personal finances and tracking every dollar that goes in and goes out. I know "technically" you are supposed to report every dollar you make, but that is literally impossible to enforce.

Final example. In my entrepreneurship class at university, we ran a small business for 10 days and we generated $2000 in revenue. We each took home $500 in profit (3 of us, $500 expenses). None of us declared anything. Money went towards booze, clubs, etc., point is that the money came and went, simple as that.

I am writing this to clear up the confusion and to put anyone who was worried minds at rest. For 99% of the people on this site, receiving $600 though paypal, on presumably multiple payments, will be fine. If you are one of those people who are a stickler for the rules and feel compelled to report it, go ahead. But for the rest of the winners, enjoy.

Just because you don't report it doesn't make my statement wrong. You actually proved my point that people would need to report winnings. And as for receiving payment is installment that is some of the most BS I've heard. Who the hell wants to wait around and wonder if and when they will be paid if they win. But congratulations, you didn't report your money to the IRS. I will be doing so and I suggest you do as well since you are trying to get Blizzard to support the TC and they would have no problem sending you a tax form if it was their event.

People don't like my posts, don't give a shit. Just trying to keep people informed.
 
Wont matter, MYT Won't be taking home a split, the rest of us can worry about tax declarations >: )
 
And as for receiving payment is installment that is some of the most BS I've heard. Who the hell wants to wait around and wonder if and when they will be paid if they win.

Paypal has limits on what you can send at a time for certain user accounts iirc.
 
Wont matter, MYT Won't be taking home a split, the rest of us can worry about tax declarations >: )

"Quote of the year" worthy, to be honest.
 
Legally it must be reported. But from experience, it won't trigger an audit. I manufactured spend 30k a month, 10k of which is money orders or cash in my bank.

Tapatalked from a PACMAN 4.4 Note II
 
Almost right after I got the 1k and 2k donations Paypal sent me a "compliance" email requesting "the goal of my fundraiser". I sent them two emails and got two automated responses. Paypal allows non-profit fundraisers, and in Canada a non-profit organization doesn't "usually" need to be registered, only a charity does. They haven't closed the account or taken the money, but the point is that the money has already garnered some scrutiny. In Canada you don't have to pay taxes on prize winnings Online Poker Winnings

The Twink Cup is a Canadian organization, and I'm not really sure what my obligations as a Canadian are under US law. Pvv has recommended that I send each person on the winning team a 1099 "miscellaneous income" form, but I'm not sure if just sending someone one of these forms qualifies as "filing" it, and I'm not sure what hoops I'd have to go through to "file" it with the IRS as a Canadian.
 
You need to get your facts straight and wake up. Whoever wins the cup will receive roughly $600. That is nowhere near the actual amount that someone would actually need to declare as income. Making statements like yours may confuse people interested in participating.

For example, I've sold multiple items, ranging from designer clothing to old gaming consoles(etc). All of those I have sold for ~$500/each, all cash (or paypal). None of which have I declared as "income". Now, you may be saying, "but you sold a good! you didn't receive the money for nothing!". That is true, but you need to understand the key concept here. I have deposited cash in the $500-$1000 range multiple times to my bank, not declaring anything.

What you need to understand is that people deposit cash all the time, and receive cash all the time, for sometimes absolutely nothing! Now if you were to receive a briefcase of $40,000 and went to deposit that in the bank, you will need to take action, but for these nominal amounts (talking about the whole scheme of things, for the twink cup it is actually unreal!), nobody will need to declare it and pay taxes on it.

To further express my point, say you were to sell your own WoW account for an astounding $750. Would you need to pay taxes on that? Absolutely not. Now I am not saying I know the law perfectly, but I have common sense and think logically. The government is not capable of looking into everyone's personal finances and tracking every dollar that goes in and goes out. I know "technically" you are supposed to report every dollar you make, but that is literally impossible to enforce.

Final example. In my entrepreneurship class at university, we ran a small business for 10 days and we generated $2000 in revenue. We each took home $500 in profit (3 of us, $500 expenses). None of us declared anything. Money went towards booze, clubs, etc., point is that the money came and went, simple as that.

I am writing this to clear up the confusion and to put anyone who was worried minds at rest. For 99% of the people on this site, receiving $600 though paypal, on presumably multiple payments, will be fine. If you are one of those people who are a stickler for the rules and feel compelled to report it, go ahead. But for the rest of the winners, enjoy.


You say he needs to get his facts straight, and then you went ahead and acknowledged that it's technically illegal to not report it...smh

Really in the end, if they did somehow find out and audit or whatever, they would just be like "give us $100 scumbag + interest" and that would be the end of it, so I can see that the risk vs reward is a pretty easy choice for most people.

I prob won't report, personally, cuz i'm a thug
 
Just to reinforce super's point. In the US gift tax is only required for gifts over $10,000. Seeing as the Twink Cup won't likely reach $100,000 i highly doubt tax will need to be payed.
 
Where did you get the $10k figure? Also this would be a prize not a gift.

Prizes and awards
Subject to certain exceptions, the cash value of prizes or awards won in a drawing, quiz show program, beauty contest, or other event, must be included on the tax return as taxable income.
Taxpayers must also report the fair market value of merchandise or products won as a prize or award, as taxable income.
For example, both a $500 cash prize and the fair market value of a new range won in a baking contest must be reported as other income on Form 1040, Line 21.
Related Items:

http://www.irs.gov/uac/Reporting-Miscellaneous-Income

As a matter of fact if the prize is over $600, Myrm or whoever is handing it out is supposed to file a 1099 on it.
 
Bunch of tax experts here.

I deal with prizes at work so I know the basics of what I need to do. That is why I pay someone to do them so they don't get messed up.


Also quick trying to say you won't have to pay taxes, technically you are required to but we know most won't. Not sure why people are so butthurt about this. Not sure about taxes outside the US but inside you would need to pay. Remember people have already asked Myrm about the money after the large donations. Just file it and deal with it. You still gain money overall.
 
4 the arena tournament can your 3v3 team play on any faction and play diff classes than ur wsg one? wats the deal..
 
4 the arena tournament can your 3v3 team play on any faction and play diff classes than ur wsg one? wats the deal..
2 toons per person. idk about diff factions for arena [MENTION=18399]Myrm[/MENTION] maybe you could clarify. can teams play both factions?
 

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