(19s) 8.1.5 Enchants & Item Changes

[Frogturtle]

does speed pot punch the user in the face irl upon use yet

 

[Byakugan]

Did you test anything on a 29? or was this all for 19s only?

 

[Purj]

Did you test anything on a 29? or was this all for 19s only?

I haven't really, sorry. I have a few 29s if you have specific questions, I may be able to check for you.

 

[Kracks]

@Purj Do u know what the stats for glove reinforcements and major healing\spellpower for gloves will be? Also will ilvl 22 blue boes change at all?

 

[Byakugan]

I haven't really, sorry. I have a few 29s if you have specific questions, I may be able to check for you.

was wondering about the darkwater talwar sword from Blackfathom proc as well as some of the alliance starter area quest rewards such as the gilneas thing if those loots are gonna scale up to 29 after the patch of stay at a lvl 20 cap...

also did u run tests on frost-laced ammo?

 

[SPQR]

@Purj Do u know what the stats for glove reinforcements and major healing\spellpower for gloves will be? Also will ilvl 22 blue boes change at all?

7 stamina and 3/3
Says in main post that scaled blue boe went up to i25 from i22.

was wondering about the darkwater talwar sword from Blackfathom proc as well as some of the alliance starter area quest rewards such as the gilneas thing if those loots are gonna scale up to 29 after the patch of stay at a lvl 20 cap...

also did u run tests on frost-laced ammo?

Both i25 and i26 versions of Darkwater Talwar got 53 dmg proc. (79 currently)
Blue quest rewards are going to scale +6 ilevels from initial level you got them at instead of current +3ilevels.
They wont scale to your character level retroactively.

frost-laced ammo still bellow incendiary ammunition.

 

[Purj]

7 stamina and 3/3
Says in main post that scaled blue boe went up to i25 from i22.



Both i25 and i26 versions of Darkwater Talwar got 53 dmg proc. (79 currently)
Blue quest rewards are going to scale +6 ilevels from initial level you got them at instead of current +3ilevels.
They wont scale to your character level retroactively.

frost-laced ammo still bellow incendiary ammunition.

Thank you kind sir.

I'll have more time for testing this weekend.

 

[SPQR]

Thank you kind sir.

I'll have more time for testing this weekend.

Would probably test more if this patch wasn't a total bitch with crashes and start ups of 10 min long for first month.
Sad times.

 

[Kracks]

heard that trade glitch was getting fixed as well. can anyone confirm?

 

[Chainz]

heard that trade glitch was getting fixed as well. can anyone confirm?

Doubt it

 

[Raosco]

This will be a small list, as there are not that many changes in this bracket.

I will update with the new Allied Races racials once their tooltips are displaying correctly.


Enchants

Most proc based enchants have been reduced. The values of these are not exact, as most of them scale with Versatility and will be slightly different for each person. The amount of damage done is also in a PvE environment. This does not take into the account the damage reduction against players due to Versatility.

These values are based on my Shaman's 18% vers rate.

Elemental Force
Live:

PTR:

Mark of the Hidden Satyr (This must be a range of damage? It did 5 more damage on PTR)
Live:

PTR:

Coastal Surge
Live:

PTR:

Glorious Stats
Live:

PTR:

Shadow Armor
Live:

PTR:

Incendiary Ammo
Live:

PTR:

Frag Belt
Live:

PTR:

Gear

Blue items (from quests and dungeon drops) now scaling to ilvl 25.

If you are planning on obtaining any blue quest items, wait until the new patch, as old versions do not scale up.

Quest Gear
Live:

PTR:

Dungeon Gear
Live:

PTR:

I'm not going to screenshot all 100 Dungeon drop items, but there are some small stat increases on most items. This includes the Slither-Scale and Fang sets.

You DOT NOT need to re-farm BoP items from dungeons. They are automatically scaling up as of this moment. My sliter-scale set is entirely upgraded to ilvl 25 and has better stats.

ilvl 24 Shadowfang still remains ilvl 24 (pre-changes version)
ilvl 23 Shadowfang likely scales to ilvl 25. I say this because my ilvl 23 Petrified Shinebone I just bought off AH (ilvl 23 on live) scaled to ilvl 25 on PTR.

Do you have any idea if the Foreman's Leggings, 23Ilvl 8/9 will scale to 9/10 as said on Wowhead scaling system?

 

[Purj]

Do you have any idea if the Foreman's Leggings, 23Ilvl 8/9 will scale to 9/10 as said on Wowhead scaling system?

I have a pair on live, I'll check PTR stats when I can

 

[HairyTreeMan]

So to clarify, if I have a quest in my log that I want the reward for, should I wait to complete it post patch?

 

[Warglave]

Everything has been updating when copied over to the PTR, so theoretically no... anything you get today that will be better next patch should just upgrade on patch day. But if you don't need it now you can wait just to be safe. I haven't tho.

edit- from the sound of it the patch should be at least a couple more weeks away. Maybe more.

 

[SPQR]

So to clarify, if I have a quest in my log that I want the reward for, should I wait to complete it post patch?

It doesn't matter when you complete it.
You get +3 ilevels now and it will go to +6ilevels after patch retroactively in your bags.

 

[Danzaa]

Really interested in testing out some different weapon enchants on my enhancement shaman. Elemental force was getting real old.

Any tips on possible enchants to try?

 

[Warglave]

Any tips on possible enchants to try?

Check out the spreadsheet necroaqua linked on the first page, it's pretty sweet. Not sure how up-to-date it is tho.

Good place to start.

@Swoops has put some extra rows for PTR versions in his spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...6Hsjw9Rs6uprLUykbHJE2wQy6s/edit#gid=575297865

Some notable ones are...
* stats to bracers (currently tooltip shows +1 stats, but gives +2 stats) is also nerfed on PTR to actually give +1.
* other chest enchants are nerfed as well, so glorious stats is still the best stats enchant. But it does open up other options - I believe theres a verse chant that might be considered now.
* I believe shadow armor is also getting nerfed - so stealth will now be the BiS agility enchant.
* Crusader is NOT getting nerfed. While warrs aren't a huge problem at 19 - the ele force nerf makes warriors that much more dominant from 29 on...


Most of these seem to be fairly minor (stats to bracers, shadow armor to cloak) or even across the board (chest enchants). It should be interesting to see what the major changes do though...

* Elemental Force - Nerfs rogues, mages, boomkin, offensive healers, and surv hunters. Also makes it so that less viable specs (WW, lock, enhance, etc) are even less viable. Buff by proxy to warriors/ret/mm/BM. We might see landslide or mongoose or other enchants come back into play a bit.
* Coastal Surge - An extra hot is still nice for some classes. May want to go back to +spellpower though for pure throughput. Remains to be seen and may depend on class.

I wonder if incendiary ammo was nerfed?

The quest gear may turn up some interesting things. Most of the time the stats aren't in line with the dungeon drops, and many slots will still use BG crate items which have more choices as far as secondaries. Good for new twinks, probably bad (but minor) for most existing twinks who might have done the quests at some point since vanilla =/

 

[necroaqua]

Really interested in testing out some different weapon enchants on my enhancement shaman. Elemental force was getting real old.

Any tips on possible enchants to try?

Warglaive linked the spreadsheet with some of my earlier notes. The more specific answer for enhance is...

Try Landslide (mainhand only) or dancing steel (either MH or OH) - but ele force is likely going to still be good/viable. Just not the stupid OP it is now.