10-19 XP ON the new bracket for F2P?

[Allybeboba]

Anyone whos played the in the 10-19 bracket knows that the majority is boa geared players. Not many new players have been joining wow in the past 5 years. However, comparing boa players to p2ps who ruined their original brackets to go 1 button win in the bracket with the lowest bottom in the game to date, is pretty silly. Anyway, now to derail your derail.

This might be an option if queue times continue to be horrendous. Currently leveling my p2p warrior and the 10-19 bracket seems to be getting 30s-1:00 minute queues. Sure as fuck beats half and hour.[/FONT]

You can justify it however you like. The bottom line is those players are not dedicated low level PvPers. They are just leveling through. They would be fodder. It would not be that much different than 19's in vanilla or dare I say trials vs subs in early Cata.
Admittedly, with our long queue times, the idea is tempting. We have just gotten spoiled. As soon as the newness of 6.x wears off, the queue times will return. Many of the subscribers are playing their endgame toons now preparing for the expansion. Thus are queue pool is smaller. I know I have only played 5-6 level 20's games since 6.0 has dropped. Partly because of queue times and partly because of prepping for the expansion.
/cheers

Sweetsidney

 

[Rollop]

You can justify it however you like. The bottom line is those players are not dedicated low level PvPers. They are just leveling through. They would be fodder. It would not be that much different than 19's in vanilla or dare I say trials vs subs in early Cata.

It is different because the majority now have the same gear. I'd also be willing to bet anyone who queues for pvp with the intention of leveling through it is dedicated. As spamming LFD is much faster.

 

[fastersamurai]

It is different because the majority now have the same gear. I'd also be willing to bet anyone who queues for pvp with the intention of leveling through it is dedicated. As spamming LFD is much faster.

Wow! First off I'm shocked at the reaction this is getting! I've leveled most every f2p toon I've ever rolled from 10-20 in bgs. If you want a challenge try surviving in whites against loomed players. I found it a great way to learn a class.

I know from experience that what Rollop says here is absolutely correct. Some of these guys are loaded for bear and highly skilled. Going XP ON will not be a cakewalk for a F2P. It will not make you a ganker. However you would have a better chance to compete as equals.

 

[Denurd]

Oh the hypocrisy.

 

[Rollop]

Oh the hypocrisy.

Explain please.

 

[Denurd]

Explain please.

OPs general idea.

 

[Rollop]

OPs general idea.

I don't have any issue with the idea, regardless of the reasoning behind it. I don't however think it's worth the time investment to do this often. I plan on leveling a toon to 10 however, just to dink around on when i get tired of waiting for queues to pop. I still stand by my initial statement to the p2ps trying compare this to what they do.

Anyone who's played the in the 10-14, 15-19 bracket knows that the majority are boa geared players. Not many new players have been joining wow in the past 5 years. However, comparing boa players to p2ps who ruined their original brackets to go 1 button win in the bracket with the lowest bottom in the game to date, is pretty silly.

 

[fastersamurai]

Sounds interesting.

If pvp honor points and battleground reputation is shared account wide then its worth it to me.

If not, then it isn't worth it to me personally, seeing as I really want to get my "of the alliance" and "justicar" name titles.

Honor points and rep are not shared among different toons. Honorable Kills are and you could work your way to "of the Alliance/Horde" then "the Bloodthirsty"

Also, when I leveled 10-20 in battlegrounds I would end with over 2,000 HP - enough to get a pvp shoulder boa.

 

[Denurd]

I don't have any issue with the idea, regardless of the reasoning behind it. I don't however think it's worth the time investment to do this often. I plan on leveling a toon to 10 however, just to dink around on when i get tired of waiting for queues to pop. I still stand by my initial statement to the p2ps trying compare this to what they do.

Thats your opinion there buddypal.

In the end.The reasoning is still same. AS OP stated it himself.
Also considering its not worth it. I'd rather GYfarm jajas for entire evening,and i'd still have same outcome as from doing this shit.

Have a nice day.

 

[Rollop]

Thats your opinion there buddypal.

In the end.The reasoning is still same. AS OP stated it himself.
Also considering its not worth it. I'd rather GYfarm jajas for entire evening,and i'd still have same outcome as from doing this shit.

Have a nice day.

How is it hypocrisy when f2p players still lack enchants, and guild heirlooms, stepping into a bracket where the majority of players already have full boas and p2p enchants. Not once did the OP state anything about stomping the few and far between players in white gear, which btw, are mostly trial players. Making that number even smaller when account wide boa tab drops.

tl'dr Trial players will still be at a disadvantage. Do you need a ladder to climb down off your high horse?

 

[Denurd]

How is it hypocrisy when f2p players still lack enchants, and guild heirlooms, stepping into a bracket where the majority of players already have full boas and p2p enchants. Not once did the OP state anything about stomping the few and far between players in white gear, which btw, are mostly trial players. Making that number even smaller when account wide boa tab drops.

tl'dr Trial players will still be at a disadvantage. Do you need a ladder to climb down off your high horse?

Are you really making this yet ANOTHER f2p vs p2p thread? Like in 10 fucking threads before?
Did i state anywhere something about p2ps or 29s?

Yes,the hypocrisy is , that people always bitch about 24s or 29s,or whatever comes to the hand.
But when there is a chance to stomp for example nonloomed levelers in open brackets, you'd gladly take the chance to become something you all whine about.
THATS the hypocrisy i meant.
Cause guess what, it is NOT different at all.

Oh! Also,Sorry to pop your bubble friend,but i participate in this bracket as a poor f2p scum. Damn..

Wonderful rest of the week to you.

 

[The Saint]

[MENTION=12134]Rollop[/MENTION], your excuses are thinner than a free to plays wage packet.

"Your" bracket going through a sticky patch so you abandon it to farm weaker players. Didnt we have this discussion a few days ago?

 

[Rollop]

Are you really making this yet ANOTHER f2p vs p2p thread? Like in 10 fucking threads before?
Did i state anywhere something about p2ps or 29s?

Heres your first post in this thread, already started by you -

Oh the hypocrisy.

After explaining why its not the same both here

Anyone whos played the in the 10-19 bracket knows that the majority is boa geared players. Not many new players have been joining wow in the past 5 years. However, comparing boa players to p2ps who ruined their original brackets to go 1 button win in the bracket with the lowest bottom in the game to date, is pretty silly.

and here

How is it hypocrisy when f2p players still lack enchants, and guild heirlooms, stepping into a bracket where the majority of players already have full boas and p2p enchants. Not once did the OP state anything about stomping the few and far between players in white gear, which btw, are mostly trial players. Making that number even smaller when account wide boa tab drops.

tl'dr Trial players will still be at a disadvantage. Do you need a ladder to climb down off your high horse?

You just flat out ignored it with your invalid argument here~

Yes,the hypocrisy is , that people always bitch about 24s or 29s,or whatever comes to the hand.
But when there is a chance to stomp for example nonloomed levelers in open brackets, you'd gladly take the chance to become something you all whine about.
THATS the hypocrisy i meant.
Cause guess what, it is NOT different at all.

Oh! Also,Sorry to pop your bubble friend,but i participate in this bracket as a poor f2p scum. Damn..

Wonderful rest of the week to you.

Your comparison is inaccurate. Even if you wanted to compare it to vanilla wow twinking. It's just plain wrong. The majority of the 10-19 bracket is loomed and chanted. Leaving trial twinks still at a disadvantage. Don't be pissy because your smug elitist comments were reciprocated.

 

[Rollop]

Oh saint, you're cute.

Rollop, your excuses are thinner than a free to plays wage packet.

"Your" bracket going through a sticky patch so you abandon it to farm weaker players. Didnt we have this discussion a few days ago?

If by abandoning it you mean

I plan on leveling a toon to 10 however, just to dink around on when i get tired of waiting for queues to pop.

You fuckin bet. I could dedicate a half hour when queues start to slow. Try again troll.

 

[Srs]

Sounds like it would be fun for about 5 minutes—you know—like rolling a 24 in cata/mop. Not sure how this differs from pvp leveling, though.

 

[Denurd]

Heres your first post in this thread, already started by you -

After explaining why its not the same both here



and here



You just flat out ignored it with your invalid argument here~



Your comparison is inaccurate. Even if you wanted to compare it to vanilla wow twinking. It's just plain wrong. The majority of the 10-19 bracket is loomed and chanted. Leaving trial twinks still at a disadvantage. Don't be pissy because your smug elitist comments were reciprocated.

While i appreciate your cuteness, I have to disagree with your arguments there buddypal.
We are talking about an open xp bracket here.With levelers,random people who slap any kind of looms they have for xp boost.
Not god damn twinks or anything.

But yeah well,there is no point in this discussion since all you see is your point.
Hope at one stage of your life you'll be able to see other arguments rather than just yours.

Lots of love, Elitist Denurd.

 

[Naq]

The rabid anti-p2p vitriol is real.

Rolling a L10 F2P toon with BOAs from the BOA tab will not be any different than the 20-29 bracket, other than the shorter queue times. You people talking about stomping newbs in questing whites and greens are splitting hairs. There are F2Ps with only quest greens in the 20-29 bracket now.

 

[The Saint]

[MENTION=12134]Rollop[/MENTION], you are doing it and condoning farming levellers, there's noway out of that. You're looking for greener pastures after two weeks of long queues, but you condemed p2ps for doing the same after three expansions, hundreds of pounds of sever transfer fees and God knows how many threads trying to keep their bracket alive.

Youre tying awful hard to turn this into a p2p vs f2p thread when it's not. It's a rat leaving a sinking ship thread. So please continue.

 

[Rollop]

We are talking about an open xp bracket here.With levelers,random people who slap any kind of looms they have for xp boost.
Not god damn twinks or anything.

You know what the difference is between this and smashing new trial players? The players in the 10-19 bracket are better geared than you.

Rollop, you are doing it and condoning farming levellers, there's noway out of that. You're looking for greener pastures after two weeks of long queues, but you condemed p2ps for doing the same after three expansions, hundreds of pounds of sever transfer fees and God knows how many threads trying to keep their bracket alive.

Youre tying awful hard to turn this into a p2p vs f2p thread when it's not. It's a rat leaving a sinking ship thread. So please continue.

Never said anything about abandoning my trial 20s. In fact I've already stated earlier in this thread why it wouldn't stick. It's not worth investing into something that has to be deleted. That's attempt #2 troll, wanna take another crack at it? They say third times the charm.

 

[The Saint]

Sounds like it would be fun for about 5 minutes—you know—like rolling a 24 in cata/mop. Not sure how this differs from pvp leveling, though.

Playing twenty four rogue in cata was the most fun I've had in this bracket. Watching hunters blow everything in the opener only to get shadow stepped was hilarious.

and slightly therapeutic