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I'm saying you can't think that way when back then it was very different. If if todays 70 metagame was end game pvp it would be a very different beast than it is now and this entire thread would have a different take as we might not have the talents/spells/ratings we do now.

If we're going back to BC then the best gems to get crit would be Smooth Lionseye - Item - World of Warcraft which would effect us differently now. We now have access to Smooth King's Amber - Item - World of Warcraft which makes Improved Hot Streak - Spell - World of Warcraft much better to gem...

Doubt it. He doesn't know what he is talking about with 70 pvp mages. When someone tries to start using Cata raiding calculations as the end-all-be-all for authority you really need to call them out on it otherwise they will mess-up others.

So he's the Glance of the 70 bracket.

Has been found: Òõòõр @ áòõöõòðтõûь Ãâ€Ã‘ƒÑˆ - Game - World of Warcraft And you're trying to argue level 70 PVP stats with info from a thread about level 85 PVE. Check and mate troll.

You sure you don't play a 19 rog? Your dodge is quite high.

Ya I don't know where i got what i did. 296 is the ap difference from dual zerk vs goose. Which is not a small amount.

I like how he dodged me when I pointed out flaws in his reasoning.

Zerk gives 248 more atkpwr than goose per enchant with leather specialization.