EU+US So 10s?

[Slice]

Prot paladin is pretty insane too. With WoD gear (including Veteran's Gloves - 3 agil) and a crusader proc I healed 3.5k and hit over 1k. While it is sort of proc dependent it has the heals to survive waiting.

 

[DeLindsay]

Prot paladin is pretty insane too. With WoD gear (including Veteran's Gloves - 3 agil) and a crusader proc I healed 3.5k and hit over 1k. While it is sort of proc dependent it has the heals to survive waiting.

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[Yapah]

Prot paladin is pretty insane too. With WoD gear (including Veteran's Gloves - 3 agil) and a crusader proc I healed 3.5k and hit over 1k. While it is sort of proc dependent it has the heals to survive waiting.

How did you get a sader proc in a BG?

 

[Slice]

How did you get a sader proc in a BG?

It was not in a BG.

 

[SikTh]

the 29 fotm circlejerk was queueing 5 10s disc yesterday
these people with destroy the bracket soon, at least they queue wsg specific

 

[DeLindsay]

The singular problem with Disc is that Blizz reduced the CD of PWS. If it still had it's long ass CD with Forbearance attached like before they wouldn't be OP right now. I mean come on at 10 my CD is 4.33s and it Crits for over 1700. That said I'm not gonna complain and ride it until the almighty Nerf bat hits, which it will likely before Legion drops.

 

[Nodoka]

Try out Warrior. I felt a bit iffy about it at first since the damage flow is much different than WoD. You'll notice you rage starve a lot more now. But your hits. .. holy poop you hit like a truck. Even level 10 discs can't keep up with your hits. And beating a Fotm in 1v1 puts Warriors in a pretty good place of you ask me. Although our survivability in frontlining has diminished a lot and we do depend on healers quite a bit.

My 19 hunt got hit by a 10 arms warrior for 980, unsure which attack it was cause didnt check combat log but yeah. They hit HARD

 

[Syrue]

10 disc vs 10 disc was actually pretty fun

 

[Nodoka]

It was not in a BG.

Then it does not matter nor count.

 

[Rognus]

Level 10 boomy with a pocket heal is absolutely absurd. My first bg I was 37-1
Stat in bg/arena 51% crit 50% haste 38% vers
Here's my armory http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/moon-guard/Squashi/advanced

 

[mind81]

The singular problem with Disc is that Blizz reduced the CD of PWS. If it still had it's long ass CD with Forbearance attached like before they wouldn't be OP right now. I mean come on at 10 my CD is 4.33s and it Crits for over 1700. That said I'm not gonna complain and ride it until the almighty Nerf bat hits, which it will likely before Legion drops.

Disc would be op even if they completely removed PWS. They can spam plea to heal themselves every second.

 

[Nodoka]

Disc would be op even if they completely removed PWS. They can spam plea to heal themselves every second.

Healers have been op at 10 for quite some time going back to cata days even, obviously this changed with the level scaling when it was added for bgs. But 10s are more or less back to its former glory. Lots of the classes at 10 do more then what a 19 does in terms of damage and healing.
If I want to stack a premade to win i'd go with a 5 man 10s team over 19s any day. They are stronger.

 

[ascoot]

Healers have been op at 10 for quite some time going back to cata days even, obviously this changed with the level scaling when it was added for bgs. But 10s are more or less back to its former glory. Lots of the classes at 10 do more then what a 19 does in terms of damage and healing.
If I want to stack a premade to win i'd go with a 5 man 10s team over 19s any day. They are stronger.

the only 10s worth noting are disc priests. stop acting like 10s are restored to their former glory. all this does is make it seem like there's competitiveness among 10s when in fact a 10 disc priest would roll anything else at 10 or 19.

 

[necroaqua]

the only 10s worth noting are disc priests. stop acting like 10s are restored to their former glory. all this does is make it seem like there's competitiveness among 10s when in fact a 10 disc priest would roll anything else at 10 or 19.

Warriors, spriest, and boomkin are also very strong at 10. Most of the healers and locks are probably in a good place as well. Give it a few weeks as people try things out (at both 10 and 19) before saying its only disc priests.

 

[Opek2]

Try out Warrior. I felt a bit iffy about it at first since the damage flow is much different than WoD. You'll notice you rage starve a lot more now. But your hits. .. holy poop you hit like a truck. Even level 10 discs can't keep up with your hits. And beating a Fotm in 1v1 puts Warriors in a pretty good place of you ask me. Although our survivability in frontlining has diminished a lot and we do depend on healers quite a bit.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/zangarmarsh/opekqt/advanced

 

[ascoot]

Warriors, spriest, and boomkin are also very strong at 10. Most of the healers and locks are probably in a good place as well. Give it a few weeks as people try things out (at both 10 and 19) before saying its only disc priests.

i think you're misunderstanding me. are 10 warrs/booms good against everything the general community? sure. is there anything comparable to a 10 priest? no. no level 10 boomkin is getting anywhere close to killing a 10 priest. zero counters, no competitiveness. 100% unfun.

 

[necroaqua]

i think you're misunderstanding me. are 10 warrs/booms good against everything the general community? sure. is there anything comparable to a 10 priest? no. no level 10 boomkin is getting anywhere close to killing a 10 priest. zero counters, no competitiveness. 100% unfun.

So does a warrior/disc beat a disc/disc 2v2? I don't know. We haven't been playing long enough to figure this stuff out. There probably will be some counterplay eventually. Maybe everyone rolls pally because HoJ is the only thing that can CC the priest long enough to burst down. My point is that this is still week 1. Give things a few weeks to shake out.

 

[ascoot]

i think what people, especially those that consider longevity a good thing for the bracket, need to understand is that these next few weeks - where a LOT of people i haven't seen playing in ages are actually logging on - are crucial. the impressions people get of the bracket are being made right now because people are excited about legion. lots of new people leveling, lots of people revisiting old twinks. in any given game, you have 3-4 people abusing 10 priests right now. i can tell you that if someone is on the fence about playing this bracket again, this may ultimately sway them two ways. it leads to more people abusing broken mechanics because they can't beat it, or outright quitting. personally, i'd rather not wait 8-9 minutes to play a bg, but currently there aren't enough people to have lower queues. are discs part of the reason for some people? hard to tell, but i can tell you that in the last few days of queuing, the games start off now with people saying "everyone focus the disc", "dont bother trying to kill the disc", "try to ignore the disc", so people are obviously catching on. why take the risk to ruin the community again before it has a chance to grow again? i feel like members of this community would know better. everyone has the right to play how they want though, their money, etc.

there are reasons the 10-19 community has died repeatedly since vanilla.

 

[jihadiques]

Hard gameplay.

 

[Slice]

Hard gameplay.

stop using the fucking 60 int buff