Derailed stream thread / Discussion on past moderation issues

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I'm pretty sure I could back up every single ban I ever initiated with account sharing, sharing prohibited material or creating multiple accounts off of the top of my head... And all of those violations were permabans based off of the CoC yet people still did exactly those anyways and acted surprised when they were banned.
 
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I'm pretty sure I could back up every single ban I ever initiated with account sharing, sharing prohibited material or creating multiple accounts off of the top of my head... And all of those violations were permabans based off of the CoC yet people still did exactly those anyways and acted surprised when they were banned.
The difference is that before you became a moderator the staff didn't use the CoC to "purge" this site. They actually stopped to think before handing out infractions and/or banning users instead of acting like a bunch of robots with an agenda.

TI's CoC is extremely subjective and allows a moderator to give you an infraction for every single post you ever make. You just told us that you technically banned Yowza for something he didn't do and I assume this wasn't the only time. The excuse of following the CoC was weak back then and it still is now.
Infraction Worthy Offenses


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You just told us that you technically banned Yowza for something he didn't do and I assume this wasn't the only time.

I told you Yowza was banned for ACCOUNT SHARING which in the CoC CLEARLY STATED would result in a permanent ban which he did 100% definitely do. It's a known fact that Yowza was sharing his account with Barb and he was banned for exactly that (although given a different reason per special occurrence). There is no arguing that yowza didn't allow barb access to his account. It is 100% factual.

His signature was also too large which wouldn't ever earn anyone a ban. I really didn't want Barb knowing that I knew he was using Yowzas account so the reason given to Yowza was a simple signature rule violation.


Yowza was banned for ACCOUNT SHARING
Yowza was banned for ACCOUNT SHARING
Yowza was banned for ACCOUNT SHARING
Yowza was banned for ACCOUNT SHARING
Yowza was banned for ACCOUNT SHARING


Still have yet to see a single example. I will level my twinks, delete my TI account if anyone can give me this mound of evidence of me being some corrupt tyrant where I was constantly banning everybody for 0 reason. Every time I interacted with ANYONE'S account was because of a BLATANT and CLEAR CoC violation. There is 0 evidence against this whatsoever. I am sick of being scapegoated and blamed for shit that there is ZERO proof of ever existing. Someone would get banned for posting IRL pictures of people and trashing them (clear CoC violation) and then tell everyone they were banned for no reason and their friends would just go "omg did you hear Mocha banned ____ for no reason". Straight up sheeple. No evidence ever supported in any of these claims.

Give me a single time I ever banned ANYONE for ZERO reason. I'm so sick of being ragged on with nothing by hypotheticals. Bring up any ban I ever initiated and I will give you 100% reasoning to the best of my memory as to why they were banned and I will quote the former CoC on every single occurrence.


You can even have the TI staff go back into ban reasoning threads and infractions given by me for any single time I've ever interacted with anyone's account. There's are mounds of justification for every action and someone with access to that part of the site can site countless examples.

There is not one single example of me ever banning anyone on the site for 0 reason yet you guys are tossing around that I did left and right. I defy any of you to bring up a single occurrence to me.


Nicozy - Repeatingly posting prohibited material despite several warnings from Shane and myself
Dorygon - Repeating trolling / infraction accumulation
Stubs - Posting Valencia's IRL pix and continuing to insult TI staff
Kancer - Repeatingly posting shirtless men despite multiple warnings before any infractions.
Flamer - Repeatingly creating and using multiple TI accounts
Restosexual - Repeatingly creating and using multiple TI accounts
Nudge - Scamming flamer over a shadowfang
Yowza - Repeatingly account sharing with Barb


Not many actions were ever taken on a 1 strike you're out basis. Most of the times I ever acted were due mainly to repetition. I still defy you to provide me with any examples. Every single member has been unbanned by Myrm. Since there are apparently 50 people whom wanted me kicked, have them give me a single example when I acted against their accounts with 0 reason that was not backed by the old CoC. It should be incredibly easy yet not a single person has brought forth a single piece of evidence.


You can blame me all you want for banning people. I'll never admit that I didn't ban people, but the blame goes to those whom repeatedly broke the CoC and disregarded it completely... Otherwise they wouldn't have accumulated all of the infractions necessary to earn them bans through the automatic system.

I still remember when everyone was telling me to unban Stubs just because he's a big name Eu twinker. Bias and corruption would be for me to grant him immunity to the CoC simply because he is a popular twinker. In him repeatingly posting Valencia's IRL pictures, flaming, AND CREATING MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS, he banned himself. I even had to permaban one of my good friends since 2007 (Nudge) for scamming flamer. If I were biased and corrupt, Nudge probably wouldn't have even seen an infraction... I wouldn't have been texting back and forth with Flamer gaining every bit of Flamer's side of things and I wouldn't have gone through and proved to everyone on TI that Nudge's paypal screenshots were fabricated.


The ball is in your court. I've been hoping for this mound of evidence against me to see the light of day so I can admit mistakes taken, apologize to those people and move on yet when I go to challenge myself and find the times I've banned people for 0 reason, I simply cannot find any. I'm not going to apologize to people whom banned themselves. I will gladly apologize to anyone, delete my twinks, delete my TI account if I can see a single time someone was right in saying that they were banned by me for 0 reason and that I was doing so simply to be a tyrant.
 
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So you still do this thing where you quote one line of my post and respond with a bunch of irrelevant bullshit so people hopefully don't notice that you are just repeating yourself while avoiding the actual point of the post you are responding to.

I literally just told you that the CoC allows a moderator to hand out infractions for every single post and by extension ban anyone with more than two posts.
 
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So you still do this thing where you quote one line of my post and respond with a bunch of irrelevant bullshit so people hopefully don't notice that you are just repeating yourself while avoiding the actual point of the post you are responding to.

I literally just told you that the CoC allows a moderator to hand out infractions for every single post and by extension ban anyone with more than two posts.


What at is your point and what is its relevance to me? You're quoting a new CoC I didn't even use nor write...


what does that new CoC have anything to do with me?
 
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you were banned for account sharing. You shared your account which was a clear CoC violation. I can't believe you're upset that you were banned for doing exactly that. We just called it a sig violation to not tip off barb.


agonist. If you were moderating under Shane than you'd know. He was 100% unreachable just like Myrm is. Sure I wrote the CoC, but all I did was write the wording of it.... Every stipulation of it was 100% the code that Shane sent me. When other moderators were brought on whom shit on the CoC, it made me look like a tyrant when I was the only one besides Shane who took it seriously. Remember when Shane set up auto ban for swearing yet I'm apparently blamed for why people weren't allowed to swear?

50 signatures against the only one policing the CoC besides Shane is incredibly easy and when it came to enforcing the CoC, no one has been as black and white as I had. I even banned my friends for account sharing. A biased mod wouldn't.

Before I was mod I had received an infraction for calling Kore hitler. When I got an infraction, I shared the infraction publicly saying how retarded it was. Kore then banned me and added to the CoC that TI members are not allowed to publicly discuss the actions a staff member takes on others. If you call me a tyrant, you obviously weren't here for TI when Kore was in charge.

When Shane took over he gave us the rules of the site and asked someone to step up and put the wording down. That's all I ever wrote. 99% of people that were ever banned by me, were banned for having multiple accounts. Stubs was banned for shitting on Valencia with his public pictures, Yowza was banned for account sharing (we just called it signature violation to not tip off barb) Flamet had created over 30 TI accounts (same as restosexual) Kancer wouldn't stop teasing naked dudes and had taken 3 warnings before a single infraction.

The CoC clearly said no discussion about the TI staff acting on someone's accounts and if you do exactly that, you'll be banned. That was the CoC since roughly 2009. Why was it such a surprise to Nicozy and you that when you guys did exactly that, you were banned?

Your issue agonist is that you acted like you were entitled to your rights on here. You failed to accept that this is a public site and that anyone could be removed at any second for no reason at all simply because the owner decides against it. The CoC was publicly available yet people still found a way to ban themselves by creating multiple accounts, calling moderators fags, sharing naked pictures, sharing their accounts etc. You guys all banned yourselves 99% of the time with the infraction accumulation system which auto bans people for gaining 3 infractions. The truth is, there were thousands of people on here every day back then whom knew that I'm very strict with the CoC and didn't want to become banned but they never saw any interaction from me because they didn't do any of the things I listed above which 90% of posters in 19s have done. Many people had no problem following the CoC and had no issue with infractions or bans.

Not a single one of you posted in the suggestions thread that we modify the CoC.

You lying fucking coward. What the fuck is this?

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DID SHANE FORCE YOU TO UPHOLD THE COC WHEN YOU WEREN'T MOD?

You're a lying fucking emo faggot. Like usual Mocha you take NO accountability for your actions because you're a fucking coward. You make up these bullshit excuses for why you over moderated and censored this site to shit. Grow some fucking balls. If I was moderator I wouldn't have allowed this shit to happen on TI. I would have talked to Shane that it is important for the community to have as little censorship as possible, I would have convinced him to rethink the CoC, I would have done something. If he refused I would have stepped down from MoD for the better of the community. Did you do that? No. Again you're acting like Shane had a fucking gun to your head. You don't won't to take any accountability. ''O blame this guy, o blame him, o lets blame this person''. You are the definition of a lowlife coward. You are now blaming the CoC which you had a hand in writing, Jesus Christ. What next, are you going to blame your mother for giving you a computer to post on?


Mocha the issue here is you're the biggest fucking lying sack of worthless shit to ever exist on this site. You are absolutely delusional. By all means Mocha reply with more long fucking useless paragraphs about how I'm wrong and that I didn't follow the CoC which you wrote. Fucking wanker.
 
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So far from this thread I've learned a few things:

Mocha Is more successful than 95% of the people here

Barb is wicked smart

Jk I already knew both those things haterz gunna h8.

Hooray!!!
I am in the top 5%!!! I suppose by TI's standards it could be the lower 5%. /cry...

/cheers
 
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You lying fucking coward. What the fuck is this?


DID SHANE FORCE YOU TO UPHOLD THE COC WHEN YOU WEREN'T MOD?

You're a lying fucking emo faggot. Like usual Mocha you take NO accountability for your actions because you're a fucking coward. You make up these bullshit excuses for why you over moderated and censored this site to shit. Grow some fucking balls. If I was moderator I wouldn't have allowed this shit to happen on TI. I would have talked to Shane that it is important for the community to have as little censorship as possible, I would have convinced him to rethink the CoC, I would have done something. If he refused I would have stepped down from MoD for the better of the community. Did you do that? No. Again you're acting like Shane had a fucking gun to your head. You don't won't to take any accountability. ''O blame this guy, o blame him, o lets blame this person''. You are the definition of a lowlife coward. You are now blaming the CoC which you had a hand in writing, Jesus Christ. What next, are you going to blame your mother for giving you a computer to post on?


Mocha the issue here is you're the biggest fucking lying sack of worthless shit to ever exist on this site. You are absolutely delusional. By all means Mocha reply with more long fucking useless paragraphs about how I'm wrong and that I didn't follow the CoC which you wrote. Fucking wanker.

Settle down there now Junior, you better watch that heart rate. We would not want you to blow a gasket now.
Aum..... Aum.... Aum....

/cheers
 
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What at is your point and what is its relevance to me? You're quoting a new CoC I didn't even use nor write...


what does that new CoC have anything to do with me?
The part I quoted has been part of the CoC for quite a while. It is not new.

You keep asking for examples of you punishing someone who didn't break the CoC which is entirely irrelevant since every single post breaks it in the eyes of the right moderator. The problem with your moderation wasn't that you banned people without following the CoC, it was how you followed it.

You have personally given me infractions for insignificant things like "idiot" but never actually bother to remove those "insults" from the post. Situations like that make me wonder if you used the CoC just to give me an infraction or if you gave me an infraction in response to me breaking the CoC.

In addition to that, even if there were bans that weren't in line with the CoC we would never know since you just admitted to making up reasons for banning Yowza and that wasn't the only time this happened on this site. I remember you flat out lying to me about the reason I was banned, helping Shane save face after banning me (the second time) for entirely no reason because I hurt his ego. You may not have handed out the ban in my case but it shows that you have no problem with covering up unjustified bans.

Feel free to cherry-pick a single line of my post again and devote an entire essay to it as usual.
 
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mocha come on why u tryna hide it you really hurt 19 twinks in that period its pretty blatant
 
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Still angry?? Need to work on that one son...
And you can't "wank a cow". You need to learn a little more about bovine physiology apparently.

/cheers
Why would anyone that doesnt have that as their weird fetish like you seem to do or wants to work with it learn about why you cant wank a cow??!?!??!
 
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stopped reading on page 3 where the paragrapgs started... either way mocha definitely is a bottom irl.

p.s. you were a shit mod and had no reason to ban me & i will always shit talk you regardless of who's around

edit: shane is easy af to get a hold of at any time of the day, you were just too shit to realize it. go to his website and ask him to buy an account worth like 3k and then just say "nvm its that fgt mocha tryna make ur site not shitty". at that point he would have already answered you and couldnt hide.
 
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You lying fucking coward. What the fuck is this?

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DID SHANE FORCE YOU TO UPHOLD THE COC WHEN YOU WEREN'T MOD?

You're a lying fucking emo faggot. Like usual Mocha you take NO accountability for your actions because you're a fucking coward. You make up these bullshit excuses for why you over moderated and censored this site to shit. Grow some fucking balls. If I was moderator I wouldn't have allowed this shit to happen on TI. I would have talked to Shane that it is important for the community to have as little censorship as possible, I would have convinced him to rethink the CoC, I would have done something. If he refused I would have stepped down from MoD for the better of the community. Did you do that? No. Again you're acting like Shane had a fucking gun to your head. You don't won't to take any accountability. ''O blame this guy, o blame him, o lets blame this person''. You are the definition of a lowlife coward. You are now blaming the CoC which you had a hand in writing, Jesus Christ. What next, are you going to blame your mother for giving you a computer to post on?


Mocha the issue here is you're the biggest fucking lying sack of worthless shit to ever exist on this site. You are absolutely delusional. By all means Mocha reply with more long fucking useless paragraphs about how I'm wrong and that I didn't follow the CoC which you wrote. Fucking wanker.


Heres my problem. The second post in that screenshot was falsified and you're spreading it around like it actually happened. Secondly there's nothing incriminating in me venting to my best friend in our guild skype call that nobody feels like we can even use the site because it's so littered with garbage. Do you think my comment was even taken seriously? No it wasn't, nor was it meant to be.

Still awaiting an example.

Edit: I did step down as mod after my first 4 months lol Then Stubs went on one night spamming the site and Shane asked me to come back. Blame Stubs for why I was mod for even more than 4 months lol

Agonist you talk about refusing to accept accountability. You were banned for creating muliple accounts.... Do you still fail to see that creating multiple accounts will ban you?
 
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Secondly there's nothing incriminating in me venting to my best friend in our guild skype call that nobody feels like we can even use the site because it's so littered with garbage. Do you think my comment was even taken seriously? No it wasn't, nor was it meant to be.

Still awaiting an example.


There we go, you just admitted you personally thought contents on the site were garbage without the CoC enforcing you, my point proven. You then follow with another bullshit excuse as always. You didn't even read what I said and ignored everything except the fucking screenshot. You will never take any accountability, who am I kidding, it's like talking to a fucking child. I can't be assed I'm going to finish my painting.

/cheers
 
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stopped reading on page 3 where the paragrapgs started... either way mocha definitely is a bottom irl.

p.s. you were a shit mod and had no reason to ban me & i will always shit talk you regardless of who's around

edit: shane is easy af to get a hold of at any time of the day, you were just too shit to realize it. go to his website and ask him to buy an account worth like 3k and then just say "nvm its that fgt mocha tryna make ur site not shitty". at that point he would have already answered you and couldnt hide.


Weren't you banned for telling me to go fuck myself or something when swearing gave an auto ban by the system lol?

And yes Shane was pretty unreachable. You can ask Broken or Silin whom were part of the staff.
 
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There we go, you just admitted you personally thought contents on the site were garbage without the CoC enforcing you, my point proven. You then follow with another bullshit excuse as always. You didn't even read what I said and ignored everything except the fucking screenshot. You will never take any accountability, who am I kidding, it's like talking to a fucking child. I can't be assed I'm going to finish my painting.

/cheers

There's no point in responding to most of your posts because you had told me how countless times I had banned someone for no reason and you fail to deliver one single shred of proof that it ever happened once.


I want to see proof.
 
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Weren't you banned for telling me to go fuck myself or something when swearing gave an auto ban by the system lol?

And yes Shane was pretty unreachable. You can ask Broken or Silin whom were part of the staff.

nope definitely wasnt banned by the system.

agonist is right though.. i told you exactly how to reach shane yet you still dont listen. ur str8 sht m8

edit: I was big into the account selling game, i know how easy it was to get in contact with shane (even for me, who's been blocked by that fool on like 10 different skype/aim accounts)
 
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