The Truth about the 19 Community July 2013

Karmaz said:
It wasn't just some shitty old premade with subpar players like MiC, Proxy, BtB, VD, FB,LS, Dynasty, etc. It was one the most competitive series in Cata. I happened to played for one of the best guilds to have ever played (CL, PH/Original WT, MB,MGC, NA). You can try and undermine how good those games were but because you cannot even comprehend what makes a player good let alone how to judge a premade but it wont prove much at all.

Who are these mysterious 19s that are apparently the "best" in their class? You lost your drive because a couple people commented on how lack luster your playstyle is? That seems a little weak even by 19s standard.

The game seems dull to you because you cannot understand what is going on around you nor do you know how to fix it, for if you had such insight it wouldn't take much effort for you to fix these problems. Congratulations, you have taken the moral high ground of being friends with people regardless of whether they are awful at this game or not (similar goals and aspirations usually attract). I also do not recall saying that they were completely skill-less although there is a possibility that I have, but this is merely a matter of semantics that I shall clarify -- if I call someone a skill-less idiot or bad player it is usually meant in the way of them being subpar or making terrible decisions.

The reason for it to raise an eyebrow is because it was not even brought up until you had mentioned it. It is a completely irrelevant piece of information and a statistic that can be easily manipulated causing its' realistic integrity to become almost void. You have previously stated that you identify players as being good by topping charts and flaunt the fact that you top healing charts which does not accurately display a player's skill or worth. You might want to put in some effort to finding players that you can rely on, although this may be tough if they do not feel like they can rely on you, which may in fact be the problem in the first place.

There isn't a side that completely dominates the bracket, it all depends upon those factors I previously mentioned (# of Goods/# of Bad/Class Comp). You have to be delusional to think it is a specific side that wins, it is (for the most part) the good players that win, and what side they queue on.

I have given you great insight into the problems that you have but I feel as if you may never triumph over them. You are beneath me. Far, far beneath me. Just because I rustled your feathers and called you out for a few major mistakes that you make on a consistent basis you have gone into a state of denial, how long you wish to stay in that state is up to you. Suck up your unsubstantial ego and move on, until then you will not progress and continue looking like an absolute fool.

It may seem like I have a large ego, but to be honest it only comes out when people need to be put in their place.

By not giving a fuck you are indeed stunting your growth. You may not care that you are not getting better but don't think for a second that you have reached status as an above average player. It is an insult to those of us that have reached such a level of play. If you do not feel that it is worth your time to get better or to even become mediocre than know your place. You do not get to call yourself above average because you are not.

Sit down kid and accept your inclusion to the Subpar Club.
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Shift said:
I actually lol'd irl.

1) I haven't played in a long time is not an excuse nor did i say that.
2) A few games is enough, but you have to take into account other players gameplay aswell.
3) Your trying to defend you faction, but we both know Horde dominates the overwhelming majority of the time.

I did not ask for anyone opinion, so until i make a thread asking what i do wrong then they should just keep quiet. But i forgot this is 19's and everyone is nosy.

I know there is always room to improve, however you can look to my earlier posts for the reasons i give no fucks anymore. As for the ego thing AGAIN, man, you really need to stop and examine your own..its pathetic.
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1) It was implied as something you could hide behind
2) A few games is by far enough to figure out whether someone has it or not, it only takes many more games to see how much better a good player is compared to an above average
3) I honestly don't give a fuck about what faction I play for, I'll play either and its completely irrelevant to me. I only care about good competitive games. What faction doesn't even come into the question.

Of coarse you wouldn't ask for anyone's opinion, you have an over inflated ego that you cannot possibly support with the terrible game play that you sport. But your right, you should remain ignorant to your mistakes and stay perpetually bad at this game. I mean look at how far it has allowed you to progress thus far?

Stop calling yourself above average and I may stop proving as to why you shouldn't self proclaim yourself as such.
 
Shift said:
If you read the posts i have made so far then you can look to them again as to the reasons. I only range when i feel that no matter the amount of healz i am receiving will be insufficient compared to the damage output. And most times it goes exactly how i envision it, whether i stay with a healer or without. I also always heal my team mates. Just because i don't stick around mid the whole fight when i could be on D or O doesn't mean i will. Yeah, i will toss a rejuv here and a swiftmend there but i am no ones pocket healer.

I am done clogging this thread with useless banter. If anyone has a bone to pick with me they can kindly take the bone and shove it up their ass. The only thing i have seen so far is the infamous 19 logic. Pathetic.
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Honestly I cannot make out exactly what is being said here but the main problem I see is that you refuse to play the game in its' current meta and have been blinded by a biased view on the midfield gameplay. You say that you are "not anyone's pocket healer" but sometimes that is what needs to be done to beat the other team.

Disregard your selfish mindset of not helping your entire team and play your role properly.

Keep running from criticism, it will get you far.
 
wud buy again. trusted sller...my healing power rose 25 healing powr points
 
Bam said:
Everyone is entitled to an opinion. But in all honesty, after 2.5 years or whatever it's been.. You still are able to pick up on mediocre gameplay. That's coming from someone who is probably #117 shaman. Mediocre gameplay is medicore. And you complain about ms :/ I think on average Aussies are on 250-300.
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Did I play with you in Warsong Warriors in Cyclone?

Welcome back either way.
 
Shift is not a man to go down willingly. I think it merely took an intermission for him to slumber and regain his strength to begin the struggle anew.
 
its Ghastly here #69 BM monk world wide ( self Proclamied obvi) just lettin you good folks on TI know. if you are tired of fighting with kids, i got some real action for ya, Sellin some pretty white girls! come fast before there all gone.

Only accept monopoly money, need to buy that boardwalk!

Ghastly
 
Dorigon said:
Shift is not a man to go down willingly. I think it merely took an intermission for him to slumber and regain his strength to begin the struggle anew.
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I must thank you for the laugh, Dori, made my day.

Just to clarify for those of you who did not notice it in my previous post, i am done posting in this thread. This argument is pointless and quite frankly is going no where.
 
What would we do without twinkinfo? :) Even though I don't agree with alot of what was said it was still fun to read and this stuff is what makes playing the 19 bracket fun as shit! We are all family in a way and who doesn't like a little shit taking at times?

Was impressive that you took the time to talk about most of the active people on the bracke good or bad. Ps- who doesn't like bombs :)

Have a good 4th everyone!
 
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