PTR First Look at Shadowlands Level Squish

Will we get the return of Rise!?

Ain't gonna lie, I've been mulling it over for awhile. I'm hoping the level squish returns WoW to a TBC-like amount of variety at the lower levels, without the vanilla/TBC amount of needless complexity. Clearly a bunch of people love that complexity, as evidenced by vanilla's twinking subcommunity, but I can do without managing different resistance totems. Respect to the people who thrive on that.

While I don't miss the general toxicity of WoW players, I'm hoping the combination of vanilla's resurgence and WoW's age has simmered that down to some degree. @Sun got me into playing Archeage Unchained for a couple of months, my first MMO outside of WoW, and I'm grateful to Sun for that experience. Just like everyone told me about every other MMO, Archeage does some really neat things (naval warfare is really cool), and it just couldn't compete with Wow's more robust interface and technical consistency.

Also, (since I can't stop typing because I haven't written a guide in almost a month) a combination of luck and insanity might set me up with a headstart in SL. I poured a ton of grind into a 79 a couple of years ago, which should drop right into 29. The one and only time I pushed PvE hard was at level 90, which is looking like the premier raid tier for the 39 bracket. Two out of three midbracket twinks possibly well on their way to done? I'll take it.

I feel bad for 49s, 59s, 69s and especially 60s. Unless Blizzard goes back to splitting brackets into 20-24, etc. which I highly doubt given the ailing queue times of leveling battlegrounds when I left WoW a couple of years ago, those OG brackets' histories will fade into oblivion.

The one thing on my WoW bucket list that I never did, was make a video about how to do macros, from simple to complex. Macros can do so much in WoW, and I've yet to see a good video guide on how to make them. SL might make for an excuse to come back and do that.

When the SL prepatch lands, I'll probably fall down a WoWhead research hole, gear up a couple of midbracket twinks and maybe even update my f2p, and maybe finally do a video about macros.
 
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seems pretty nice for level 10 xd

https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/1259857932059136002

anyone know if you can get level 10 relics? I hope not lol
 
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epic proc on his first quest item
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Artifact is undeniably overpowered... maybe it’s not scaled right though

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Starter gear is better than quest gear

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No idea on the level requirement of getting the quest for off spec artifacts.
 
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No idea on the level requirement of getting the quest for off spec artifacts.

If any of that is active once SL goes Live, 10's will literally be the most OP non-Level cap Toons in the Game.

Hell yeah, revival of the F2P/Vet bracket. ALL OTHER BRACKETS ARE INFERIOR. But seriously, this is too good to be true, but I'm cautiously optimistic
 
Nah tbh sounds gay and lame af

None of your items will matter. Sockets and tertiary stats + artifact over anything. Biggest power gain coming from doing your first legion quests? farming legion greens for socketed gear?
Epic procs not even increasing stats of an item?

How many levelers won’t have the artifact and be much less powerful than others who start in legion

What about ftp, what if they don’t get to access legion questing

it’s too early to tell anything but I haven’t been excited for any of this
 
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Nah tbh sounds gay and lame af

None of your items will matter. Sockets and tertiary stats + artifact over anything. Biggest power gain coming from doing your first legion quests? farming legion greens for socketed gear?
Epic procs not even increasing stats of an item?

How many levelers won’t have the artifact and be much less powerful than others who start in legion

What about ftp, what if they don’t get to access legion questing

it’s too early to tell anything but I haven’t been excited for any of this
All the available pve shit looks rad as hell and even if pvp gets scuffed, this shits gonna be fun
 
Nah tbh sounds gay and lame af

None of your items will matter. Sockets and tertiary stats + artifact over anything. Biggest power gain coming from doing your first legion quests? farming legion greens for socketed gear?

How many levelers won’t have the artifact and be much less powerful than others who start in legion

What about ftp, what if they don’t get to access legion questing

it’s too early to tell anything but I haven’t been excited for any of this

Personally, I've never cared too much for levelers, even nowadays they're kinda just fodder. F2P already have access to Legion Content/Lands (They can teleport to New Dalaran), they are just missing BFA right now. But I am kinda concerned for healing in this bracket, pretty much every major class gets an interrupt at < level 7 (warriors,DK, mage, rogue, DH, and Shammies lose theirs), which may mean Rdruid healing is making a comeback, but they do lose swiftmend. But it is still a few months away so idk
 
We're getting artifacts? I called this shit a year ago. Let's fucking go.

Getting more and more excited for Shadowlands with each passing day.
 
Imagine if corruption is accessible and non-disabled. While it feels unlikely you never know(unless somethings been found already).
 
unpopular opinion but healers should be nerfed into the ground in 20s. Theyre too powerful by a factor of like... 12

yeah. I agree that they are pretty damn OP, but even with how OP they are, alot of people still refuse to play healers. And the levelers that do play healers don't even heal. So, while i do agree this is a healthy change for the bracket overall Im just a tad bit worried about the state of healing going into SL, and whether or not we'll just full DPS queues, but we'll have to wait and see
 
Imagine if corruption is accessible and non-disabled. While it feels unlikely you never know(unless somethings been found already).
You have to consider why some people only vet pvp, one of my reasons I stopped doing high end pvp was azerite and corruption. It's just fucking lame. I hope they don't ruin the vet bracket with that nonsense. Legendaries would be fucking sick, and class halls though.
 
Imagine if corruption is accessible and non-disabled. While it feels unlikely you never know(unless somethings been found already).

I doubt that corruption would be active. But yeah, the main reason I hated endgame PVP was because of corruption. What a lame RNG mechanic to have
 
unpopular opinion but healers should be nerfed into the ground in 20s. Theyre too powerful by a factor of like... 12
I don't think this is an unpopular opinion. The nobody dies stall fest meta we have currently is terrible.
 
I don't think this is an unpopular opinion. The nobody dies stall fest meta we have currently is terrible.
Healers would definitely be hard to come by then for damn sure, lol. I feel like both sides would lose a ton, I'm not gonna lie I'd probably just play boomie/feral.
 
Healers would definitely be hard to come by then for damn sure, lol. I feel like both sides would lose a ton, I'm not gonna lie I'd probably just play boomie/feral.
I'd much prefer a meta where shit actually dies and clashes don't last as long as your healers mana depleting. I'd stick to my priest and heal. The people that just like to DPS without the risk of dying would reroll, sure. Those people are going to reroll whatever is fotm in SL anyways (I predict DH/DK being sick,) so meh.
 

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