Twinks entering XP-on BGs is probably about to get fixed

You have no one to justify yourself to. They will feel it as well one day. Spare yourself the writing and explaining. These are ignorant and selfish creatures who would do the same.

Indeed, it feels like I am talking with the morale police or something lol.

So pre-patch 8.1.5 to all those complaining about twinks on forums I should just had told them to stop crying and follow blizzards rules and get stomped or don't play this game at all because blizzards wants it?

Blizzard is a business after all, they want something maybe, but largely due to what their audience want. We are the customers. So it depends on which voice is loudest more or less on which decisions they might take and which 'rules' they want to enforce.
 
You’re standing up for blizzard without even questioning their actions against the community you’re part of. Snitching on others that share the same passion (questionable) for twinking as you do.
That’s just sad. That’s being a bitch. Get a life man, surely you got better things to do then attempt to get players hard earned toons banned.

Let people enjoy themselves... does it effect you? No. So leave it alone.

Snitching I am sorry I tell the truth and don't lead a life of Lieing or cheating. I would want someone to ban me too if I exploited as well so it goes both ways!
 
No sense of community/laziness = resorting to exploit game. Us 20s have short queues but we still try to organize wargames because we strive for competition. just let that sink in.
 
Indeed, it feels like I am talking with the morale police or something lol.

So pre-patch 8.1.5 to all those complaining about twinks on forums I should just had told them to stop crying and follow blizzards rules and get stomped or don't play this game at all because blizzards wants it?

Blizzard is a business after all, they want something maybe, but largely due to what their audience want. We are the customers. So it depends on which voice is loudest more or less on which decisions they might take and which 'rules' they want to enforce.
Like u said the moral police. This is like when the USA says that russian are making war around the world. Just mega lul
 
So you play games to exploit them smh unreal....... I am just as pissed I can't play my twink anymore cause leveler's are too lazy to go get the gear like we do. us twinks put the time into the game and I think we got ripped off cause of them. But I refuse to exploit the game so I can play the way I want. If you don't like how the game is set up and have to exploit it to play it the way you want it then make your own dam game don't ruin it for other's.
Annnd you literally didn't read his comment. He WANTS to BG with his Twinks, Blizz removed that "ability" when they stuffed XP-Off into their own que (dead as shit 99.99% of every day). That means he CANNOT PLAY THE GAME AS INTENDED i.e. he cannot que up for a BG like 99.99% of WoW can.
 
So you play games to exploit them smh unreal....... I am just as pissed I can't play my twink anymore cause leveler's are too lazy to go get the gear like we do. us twinks put the time into the game and I think we got ripped off cause of them. But I refuse to exploit the game so I can play the way I want. If you don't like how the game is set up and have to exploit it to play it the way you want it then make your own dam game don't ruin it for other's.

No I am not playing games to exploit them.

I played this game since 2006. And never in my life did I have to exploit to continue the way I was playing since a few months ago. It is quite sad, because as I said before, I do not want to have to exploit to play the game. But since I am not in power of what decisions are taken on this game, all I can do is to express my opinion publicly. Which is that I wish they would remerge the queues and create auto-balance instead like in CS:GO or something like that, so that everyone are happy, including me, us, this community which is all I play for.

Well it isn't so 'damn' easy to just make my own game.

I would not say it is cheating since nor any 3rd party software, macro or script or what so ever is necessary to make two mouse left clicks.

That is more like a bug in the game if it is unintended which apparently they are too lazy to fix. Not my problem. If they really wanted us out and that fixed, there are a thousand ways they could easily do that. (not giving good ideas now though).

Also, I actually did unsub right away after the 8.1.5 change, but resubbbed after a bit more than a month. At first a lot of my twink friends and myself including were not willing to play the game having to turn xp on and off and all that stuff just to enjoy a single battleground. So we just quit.

But the silent protest of quitting evidently did not work and also we wrote a lot of forum posts on blizzards official wow forums which also did not work. They kept silent and we got ignored.

So what do you expect now? They can fix their bug if they want I can't do anything about it and then I will effectively become their ex. customer.

Or they could actually make a solution that works for everybody with some sort of balancing compromise and thereby keep all their customers, but it requires a bit more work from them.
 
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Annnd you literally didn't read his comment. He WANTS to BG with his Twinks, Blizz removed that "ability" when they stuffed XP-Off into their own que (dead as shit 99.99% of every day). That means he CANNOT PLAY THE GAME AS INTENDED i.e. he cannot que up for a BG like 99.99% of WoW can.

Well we can't control what Bliz has done to us but we have no right to exploit the game ever just cause we can't get our own way.
 
Well we can't control what Bliz has done to us but we have no right to exploit the game ever just cause we can't get our own way.
Has Blizzard EVER stated that it's an exploit? Has Blizzard EVER banned anyone from using an in game Macro to get into BG's with XP turned off? If the answer is not, then you have no ground to stand on.
 
Has Blizzard EVER stated that it's an exploit? Has Blizzard EVER banned anyone from using an in game Macro to get into BG's with XP turned off? If the answer is not, then you have no ground to stand on.

Just cause it has not happen doesn't mean it's ok. If Bliz wanted us to play with leveler's then we would be playing with them. The only way now too is to exploit with a macro to override the system into believing your xp is on when it's not...That is called Exploiting.
 
Snitching I am sorry I tell the truth and don't lead a life of Lieing or cheating. I would want someone to ban me too if I exploited as well so it goes both ways!

This is where you’re going way too serious with this whole situation. It’s a recent change Blizzard have made.
It has destroyed the community and blocked players from playing their twinks. Characters that have days of play time on.

Surely you can understand why people are doing whatever they can to play them.... that does not mean they or I lead lives of cheating and lying.

This is like talking to a devout Christian about abortion rights of rape victims.
 
Just cause it has not happen doesn't mean it's ok. If Bliz wanted us to play with leveler's then we would be playing with them. The only way now too is to exploit with a macro to override the system into believing your xp is on when it's not...That is called Exploiting.
It's NOT an Exploit just because YOU don't like it. Until a Blue comes out and states that directly, it's just another broken Game mechanic that Blizz hasn't fixed yet, just like broken shit that's existed since Vanilla. You can keep crying all you want, your tears feed those of us who don't care about "But I don't want my feelings hurt when a Twink destroys me in a BG". Buck up butter cup, learn to PvP or get run over.
 
This is where you’re going way too serious with this whole situation. It’s a recent change Blizzard have made.
It has destroyed the community and blocked players from playing their twinks. Characters that have days of play time on.

I do understand it has ruined the community I have been playing Since Vanillia. I have put in a ton of time as well, So I get it. I am just as pissed off about it as well as other's are.
 
Again no macro is needed. The only conclusion I can see is that blizzard haven't taken a stand on it yet wether or not to fix the loophole. I am 99,9% sure they know about it. So this is purely underprioritized or they just aren't sure wether to fix it or not. And until they make up their minds wether or not it should be possible, I might as well get my bloodthirsty title.

And to the lvl 20 twink regarding wargames. Most 59 twinks on EU went F2p lvl 20 to twink instead after the change exactly because of that. As here we don't have wargames or xp-off queues sadly. I would of course prefer that and I have tried to set it up but without much success.

Personally I just rather do other things than playing lvl 20, there is a reason I don't play it in the first place and it just isn't for me, no offense to those who do, but I just want a bit more abilities and gear options to have fun.
 
As far as i am aware no one has gotten banned for using macros as long as they only have Blizzards API and don't have any third party code or software. And i can not find any information about someone who ever was banned for an in-game macro.
Lets not be naive here like our F2P detractors frequently are (intentionally or not) the macro is not the part of the activity which could potentially cause trouble in terms of TOS. All it does is literally press a button for you, and is actually not required to do the activity in question, the macro simply provides an element of consistency those of us without uber pings and korean starcraft player reflexes. The activity itself is the cause of concern regarding TOS and its the severity of the activity in the grand scheme of things that has two disctinct perspectives, and which of those two perspectives you have depends almost entirely on whether your A) a Vet/F2P or B) Have twinks in other brackets you can longer realisticly pvp with outside the activity at hand
 
It's NOT an Exploit just because YOU don't like it. Until a Blue comes out and states that directly, it's just another broken Game mechanic that Blizz hasn't fixed yet, just like broken shit that's existed since Vanilla. You can keep crying all you want, your tears feed those of us who don't care about "But I don't want my feelings hurt when a Twink destroys me in a BG". Buck up butter cup, learn to PvP or get run over.

I AM A TWINK for christ sake read all of this thread before commenting. Been a Twink Since Classic and through all the BS they have put us through since.
 
I AM A TWINK for christ sake read all of this thread before commenting. Been a Twink Since Classic and through all the BS they have put us through since.
Interesting, I'm not even active in the BG/WG scene and would argue every Twink on this site knows who I am (mostly because I'm a tad abrasive), but I've never heard of you before this post, curious.
 

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