Money or love? Trippie red

Apnea said:
The intent wasn't to say she's underrated, my apologies for the confusion. It was more so that the track I linked was fire and is a pretty big deviation from what she usually puts out. She's had a tendency toward more poppy stuff and I just thought that song was hard and easily one of her best.
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So whats your argument against someone like trippie redd in terms of uniqueness? Fuck Love was dope - maybe not a unique sound but everyone has dope songs just like minaj
 
Flaxy said:
So whats your argument against someone like trippie redd in terms of uniqueness? Fuck Love was dope - maybe not a unique sound but everyone has dope songs just like minaj
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My issue with Trippie is that he's derivative at best and people are clamoring like he's some genius innovator. He clearly bites Thugger and Uzi's flows and vocal styles as I mentioned above. Sure he may have good songs (again good being entirely subjective), but he's not original and not bringing anything new to the game.
 
Apnea said:
My issue with Trippie is that he's derivative at best and people are clamoring like he's some genius innovator. He clearly bites Thugger and Uzi's flows and vocal styles as I mentioned above. Sure he may have good songs (again good being entirely subjective), but he's not original and not bringing anything new to the game.
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Name a 100% unique rapper. Even the goats of this generation (Cole, Kendrick, Joey, even logic) get compared to and sound similar to previous rappers. Isnt all the newschool rappers baby versions of future/thugger/ect? Even Lil Baby who just blew up only sounds unique because of his voice sounding weird af - his flow and style is nothing new whatsoever.
 
Flaxy said:
Name a 100% unique rapper.
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Flaxy said:
Em is an influence on tech, not the other way around.
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I can agree with you on that, even though Tech was doing his thing long before Em. I'm pretty sure we can say they're both influences on each other. I think that Tech was inspired Em's mainstream success and how quickly he rose to the top with a style of rap that hadn't really been heard much before that, while Tech was pioneering that style on his underground shit.
 
Flaxy said:
Stick to pop or give a valid argument regarding rap.
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the day you kids started bumping rappers based on their beats and not their bars or flows is the day US rap died

you'll try to defend it by talking about or linking an underground artist but you wont support that artist or help them break through, either because you want to be a hipster and pull them up when people discuss rap like 'i dont listen to mainstream stuff i only listen to x artist' or you're scared they'll turn into a mainstream record label clone like all the others

US rap is dead, that's the end point.
 
Iild said:
you'll try to defend it by talking about or linking an underground artist but you wont support that artist or help them break through, either because you want to be a hipster and pull them up when people discuss rap like 'i dont listen to mainstream stuff i only listen to x artist' or you're scared they'll turn into a mainstream record label clone like all the others
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I don't do that, however thats sad that its true that some people are that ignorant.


Regarding the beat > lyrics argument, it has some validation but to say some songs werent big when "hip hop was real xd" solely based on their beat would be bullshit. Gin and Juice? T.R.O.Y? I Get Around? Ruff Ryders Anthem? All have some lyricism, for sure more than nowadays, but your argument is invalid if you're regarding past hip hop.

Now if we're talking current rappers, plenty of rappers are running the game and selling more records(Cole, Kendrick, Joey and whoever else you want to add) than these "beats, no lyric" rappers - desiigner, 6ix9ine, Trippie, yachty, rich the kid, uzi.


So hows it dead again when lyricists are outselling beat reliant rappers?
 
Iild said:
the day you kids started bumping rappers based on their beats and not their bars or flows is the day US rap died US rap is dead, that's the end point.
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Don't put us all in a box lmao
 
Flaxy said:
I don't do that, however thats sad that its true that some people are that ignorant.


Regarding the beat > lyrics argument, it has some validation but to say some songs werent big when "hip hop was real xd" solely based on their beat would be bullshit. Gin and Juice? T.R.O.Y? I Get Around? Ruff Ryders Anthem? All have some lyricism, for sure more than nowadays, but your argument is invalid if you're regarding past hip hop.

Now if we're talking current rappers, plenty of rappers are running the game and selling more records(Cole, Kendrick, Joey and whoever else you want to add) than these "beats, no lyric" rappers - desiigner, 6ix9ine, Trippie, yachty, rich the kid, uzi.


So hows it dead again when lyricists are outselling beat reliant rappers?
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comparing already establishes artists' record sales on their 2nd, 3rd or even 4th album compared to a new upcoming artists' debut album is ridiculous in itself

however if you put the numbers of both artists' debut albums against eachother in a relevant time, the 'beats, no lyric' rappers are outselling them by far.
 
Instead of just making statements, how about we see some credibility? Perhaps some numbers?
 
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