ArthurianKnight said:
I see the point, but saying undead are gonna be useless all together is completely farfetched. Its easy to see the use of two trinkets to go out of the troubles. but how about those who choose double AGM and cannot trink at all. now they wont have the need for the trinket at lal and can still take the free slot for something else.
it means that yeah it was good to be able to double trinket, but that i agree was making UD way too strong when you consider that only them was able to do this. for it was already solved for human. it was just evident that if human weren't able to do it, then UD would as well be nerfed into it.
seriously, i doubt people to just throw away their whole World of warcraft account because of a simple nerf that doesn't even break the mechanic itself !
UD useless in 3.3? IMO....yes
2% shadow spell resist
200% underwater breathing
WotF or using a PVP trinket
cannibalize
+15 fear resist (rumored rebuff)
i have 2 accounts play both factions. i have a NE/HU/Gnome rogue on alliance and UD/BE/Troll on horde.
IMO...HU and NE are top rogues hands down game wise.
for the horde i would say Orc or BE.
i switched my UD rogue horde faction to HU alliance faction almost 2 months ago. he is a finished rogue, my other HU alliance rogue still needs hat/AGM. first time i played alliance in 19 bracket, being able to use EMFH up to 12 times in a WSG BG versus any horde player with a 5 min CD PVP trinket 4 times was definitely noticeable. 2 minutes rolls fast. since i'm sub-spec, the perception +1 stealth....LOL, i see horde rogues like candy. especially those with 3 points in MOD or +1 stealth to a cloak, even those who have it, i see and SAP first
i still have 3 UD players, 4 if i bring my 19 HU rogue back from the alliance. IMO, they have no melee vs melee pvp racials. and soon will have no worthwhile caster racials other than 2% shadow spell resist.
IMO, blizzard has stripped what is the warcraft lore concerning the forsaken/undead when it comes to racials. actually should not be able to be feared....but i admit that would be way OP. they actually had it right years ago and prior to previous 3-4 nerfs on WotF.
overall i consider UD worthless as a playable race come 3.3 unless something changes. they are horde most gimped class as it is.
as for double trinket, my gnome has that now, get rooted 'escape artist' get rerooted 'PVP trinket" wonder if that is getting nerfed.
your right, i doubt that most will dump their accounts seeing that they have hardcore time invested. but there may be quite alot who do, considering the Blizzards unfairness in nerfs and rebuffs of other classes.
NE when they nerfed SM to have a CD, they added more to it, they also added a 2% melee/ranged hit negation.
HU when they nerfed +100 stealth detection/perception 2 min CD to +1 passive perception they added EFMH with a lvl-70+ 2 min CD.
UD when they nerfed WotF 5 sec fear immune they add +200 underwater breathing. and at same time gave all the other races extended underwater breathing. more of a rebuff for everyone else
i am trying to be unbiased, i could go on about other alliance vs horde racials.....
BTW playing alliance i have complained about alliance, with my 70 gnome rogue. i don't reroll, even prior to WOTLK, i complained about the over the top advantages HU/NE rogues have. in arena you many times can face your own faction. i have seen other rogues horde and alliance complain too on wow-forums.
i have asked for race change in the past, thread along with others was blue posted with statements it would never happen, along the same lines as faction changing.
today i was going to do the paid gnome to HU change, but now i hear word that EMFH may be getting the nerf on next expansion? but maybe i shouldn't worry
....cause blizz would never shaft their #1 played race or the NE their #2 played race. plus the rebuff would more than enough keep them on top
