WoD Legacy Looting Tip

I don't know if this has already been pointed out as I've been out of the loop for a bit, and only recently got back into 20s and realised my gear was outdated and that I had some farming to do.

anyway,

this is what I've found out to be the somewhat most effecient way to go about farming my own WoD Warforged pieces, and figured I'd share in case others are wondering how people go about farming their ilvl 87 epics.


for the first 200 runs or so I did my own self-boosts with legacy looting , using 1x lvl 20 and 1x lvl 60.

doing it this way both your characters are 100% to get 1x loot per boss kill the entire run.

so 2x loots 4x bosses = 8 items per run and 8x10 runs = 80 items total per 10 reset/lockout.
while only 40 of these items will be scaled to lvl 20.

this is good and all but the rng involved in these giant loot tables and then needing the item to proc WF ontop isn't great..

what I ended up doing was bringing 2x lvl 20s , 1x lvl 60 booster.
bringing in another person divides up the loot chances so its a 33.33% chance per character to get to loot as each boss will still drop 2x items loot to 3 people with legacy loot active.

but now that I have 2x lvl 20s in the group it's 2x 33.33% = 66.66% chance to get to loot 2x lvl 20 loots per boss kill instead of just 1 item.

its still very rng based but being able to get between 10-16? extra items per 10 reset/lockout is still better than no bonus drops at all.

this is an example of the loot i got on my 60 booster:
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each square is supposed to present 5 runs and the horizontal lines inside is to seperate the loot in each run.

this is a bit tricky to explain as its just the 'system' I use to keep track of runs+loot instead of having to use an addon for it.

the 14x empty slots show the boss kills in which your lvl 60 did not get any loot, and instead a lvl 20 got the additional loot, that would otherwise had gone to your lvl 60 had you been doing runs the previous way with just 2 characters.

so our extra 14 bonus items + 40 garanteed items = 54 items scaled to lvl 20 in this reset/lockout.


it's important to note that this only ideal for vets who have active game time, as the idea is you're able to trade the extra looted items between the two 20s.

there might be some arguements that its better to use a lvl 10 MW with personal loot, which is valid but it depends on how you value your time if you plan on doing fulll clears.

more or less every 60 class will be able to boost a full Iron Docks run in less than 4 minutes without any speed gear equipped since you can mount inside the instance, which would be tricky to achieve with 60% mount speed.

lastly, I don't think this is the way to go about farming for wf+socket if there are some hardcore grinders out there trying to get them. but this is a good method to get your first ilvl 87 gear set.
( most likely doing solo-personal loot runs on some of the 1st bosses would be more ideal )

hope this was somewhat helpful to some at least, happy farming and gl on the drops.
 
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TLDR: the more 20s in the group, the less chance the 60 gets loot that is wasted.
 
TLDR: the more 20s in the group, the less chance the 60 gets loot that is wasted.

10/10

although if you run a full party of 4x20s and 1x60 booster the amount of drops won't increase, but the more 20s the greater chance of lvl 20 items.

ideally you wana bring vets with different armor grades so there's less un-wanted loot going to waste as the idea is to trade items around.

but paying for two subs or more is already a stretch to some people, hence why the 2x 20 and 1x60 is something you could do with just one friend/guildie wanting to tag along the grind.
 
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If it's possible to solo the boss on your 20, isn't that a way to guarantee the loot to your 20 every boss if the 60 leaves the instance/logs out? I remember we would do that for legacy runs last xpac

I don't currently play anymore but I remember that speeding the process up immensely, especially thrall walk simulator dungeon last xpac

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If it's possible to solo the boss on your 20, isn't that a way to guarantee the loot to your 20 every boss if the 60 leaves the instance/logs out? I remember we would do that for legacy runs last xpac

I don't currently play anymore but I remember that speeding the process up immensely, especially thrall walk simulator dungeon last xpac

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I think is correct; you can guarantee the 2x loots for lvl20 by doing this. However, I think this method maybe would be better if you actually had a need for legacy loot (for example, the mail pants from the last boss in Hillsbrad for Hpals?). Instead, I think people endure the legacy loot in WoD dungeons for the prospect of clearing it as quickly as possible (not that they actually want legacy loot), which is why logging out & soloing the bosses (x4) is maybe not so ideal in this context. You may guarantee the 2x loots for your lvl20, but it might not matter if the loot ends up being different from the armour type you actually require.
 
If it's possible to solo the boss on your 20, isn't that a way to guarantee the loot to your 20 every boss if the 60 leaves the instance/logs out? I remember we would do that for legacy runs last xpac

I don't currently play anymore but I remember that speeding the process up immensely, especially thrall walk simulator dungeon last xpac

I would assume that method should still be working just fine , I used to do the same for old hillsbrad runs as well.

but while the entire loot table for 'Epoch Hunter' seemed massive at 21 items when trying to get legs or shoulders in SL. the loot table for 'Skulloc' drops 63 different items and then also needing to proc warforge at the same time..

it makes you wonder if its better to just plow through a lot of full runs with less loot but at a faster pace, rather than spending the same amount of time on killing a single boss.

sorta the same comparison with legacy boost runs vs. solo personal looting runs. since in this case with 'Skulloc' the loot table will still be 15 items with personal loot and then the additional rng if it procs or not.

In the end it's just a matter of which way you perfere to go about the grind for your items, and what tools you have available with multiple accounts/clients & game time.

but I tried my luck with randoms in WoD LFG once and using almost 10 minutes on a full run with personal loot and ended up with 0 drops.. so i quickly went back to legacy farming.
 
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If it's possible to solo the boss on your 20, isn't that a way to guarantee the loot to your 20 every boss if the 60 leaves the instance/logs out? I remember we would do that for legacy runs last xpac

I don't currently play anymore but I remember that speeding the process up immensely, especially thrall walk simulator dungeon last xpac

Please ignore if not relevant

not relevant because of item / hour and the hassle involved.

before pre-patch, i ran my own twink and another friend's 2 twinks (we both have 2 accounts) and we would get 10 runs done in around 30 min. 4*2*10=80 items, the 60 only got on average 20 drops, so it was 60 drops per hour (30 min of which was break time).
 
My only advice is to use whatever method does not drive you insane, and better yet, switch it up every so often if it starts to wear on you.

It's a significant grind either way, so do whatever you can to keep things fresh while you go through it.

I can't say which method is strictly better, so I will just offer my personal stats for anyone that cares.

289 total WOD Dungeon runs for a full Base WF set for my 10 Shaman, the vast majority of which were solo runs on just my 10. I noticed early on after phase 2 that solo runs got you a guaranteed drop of class appropriate gear, so that seemed like the best option as I was able to solo rather easily.

I tried a few legacy loot runs and even tried making a 10 shaman alt on my second account to act as a second looter to see if I could get two class specific drops guaranteed, but this did not work, as only one character would get to loot the boss. Did not try with a non mail 10.

With my limited sample size I could not be certain, but I personally felt I had the best luck just soloing for my guaranteed drops. I got a WF item on average about every 2-3 runs. Sometimes I would get two in one run, or none for like 4 runs.

By the time I got my last WF piece (both my rings were the last things I got WF) I ended up with 3 WF+Leech, and 3 WF+Speed, but no WF+Socket.

I am taking a break from WOD grinding while I finish getting to 70, but I will likely be back to target specific socket pieces if this still has not been nerfed by then.
 
Soloing definitely seems like solid option for once. Even so you need some things to survive long enough to outdamage the boss, but it feels way easier to get purples than grinding focking crabs at Westfall or camping at rares spawn locations.
Auchindoun and Grounds the best at my taste, I think Mines also should not be a problem for classes with more healing options or ways to deal with more than one opponent at the same time, Docks in other hand just depressing to run idk maybe it just me
 
although if you run a full party of 4x20s and 1x60 booster the amount of drops won't increase, but the more 20s the greater chance of lvl 20 items.

Ideally you run one 20 of each armor type in the group so every epic that drops finds a happy, useable home.

edit- and tho it may not get as many drops this way, the level 60 will still always get the item you wanted before your 20. :kms:
 
Best way to farmnis to make a group of 4 level 10 twinks + 1 level 20,all same armor type all capabale of trading, and that know what they should do.
 
TLDR: the more 20s in the group, the less chance the 60 gets loot that is wasted.
I have 5 accounts, so when I want to gear up a character through carrying in legacy loot, the group is the carrier and 1 same level as the target character of each armor type. Nothing wasted. I actually started doing this during Shadowlands when I found that the carrier usually had 5 of the target item before it dropped for the low level.

The first time I saw this I was like, this is really annoying. The second time, gee, really bad luck. The third time I was like, maybe this is not a coincidence that certain obvious twink items drop less often for the carry in an obvious carry situation. Bringing 4 low levels through means the system can't determine if one is a carry, and loot distribution seems normal.

I did 5 dungeons after reset and saw no warforged loot. Was I unlucky or was it removed?

As far as sockets go, I have seen a socket twice in the past week in BC dungeons, both on pieces that do not normally have one, both on the carrier. Need more data.
 
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As far as sockets go, I have seen a socket twice in the past week in BC dungeons, both on pieces that do not normally have one, both on the carrier. Need more data.

I think there's still some speculations on which slots and what expansion//dungeons can proc sockets.
speaking from my own gearing experience ive still only seen socket procs on SL slots: helm, neck, bracers, belt and rings.

Tert stats seems to be proc-able on everything from any expansion. but the only ever screenshots ive seen roaming around here to 'confirm' that socket procs on classic or tbc items, have always been on some of the SL slots.

i'm a bit curious to know is if this applies for BFA dungeon loot as well now, since those were able to proc sockets on anything prio to DF pre-patch.
( altho most BFA loot isn't really worth using due to ilvl 87's , but some of the trinkets are pretty decent still )

but untill someone provides me with a link to an armory that has socket proc on a TBC chest or legs, i'm highly doubtful they exsist.
 
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socket proc on a TBC chest or legs, i'm highly doubtful they exsist.

I wouldnt be surprised if it's not possible on that, nothing has ever had 4 sockets... might be a flat limitation.

I cant argue with the SL slots theory either, I havent noted any other slots as of yet. Disappointing, but great to get any.

edit -any belt buckles work on the new ilvl ranges? Could try to socket a upgraded 3 socket belt and see what happens.... above our bracket but still interested if 4 can even be done.
 
I think there's still some speculations on which slots and what expansion//dungeons can proc sockets.

speaking from my own gearing experience ive still only seen socket procs on SL slots: helm, neck, bracers, belt and rings.

i'm a bit curious to know is if this applies for BFA dungeon loot as well now, since those were able to proc sockets on anything prio to DF pre-patch.
( altho most BFA loot isn't really worth using due to ilvl 87's , but some of the trinkets are pretty decent still )

but untill someone provides me with a link to an armory that has socket proc on a TBC chest or legs, i'm highly doubtful they exsist.
One of the sockets was on a trinket from Blood Furnace, the other on a helm from Hellfire ramparts that is not listed as having one.

I wasn't actually farming for sockets, and didn't see any more, even though I ran every BC dungeon, a few more than once.
 
I did 5 dungeons after reset and saw no warforged loot. Was I unlucky or was it removed?

Probably just unlucky. Tried 2 runs of Bloodmaul Slag Mines and got a warforged with tert just now.

Edit: 3rd run and another warforged dropped. Keep playing at the blizzard casino, thank you. :)
 
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Using this post to ask a question because you all seem active. Have not twinked in retail since Wrath. I wanna get back into it. Is there a reason to make a fresh 20 since BG queues are messed up because of DF release. What’s the best bracket to make right now? Should I just go for a 29 since 20s are messed up right now anyway?
 

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