Why this bracket is exceptional

[tence]

Male blood elf paladins with names of Lord of the rings elves missing a huge bunch of gear pieces lower the quality of this bracket.

the rp potential though!

 

[Domunique]

This bracket is very hard for true F2Per's I would know, I was an F2P Trial for 4 years, recently I decided to become a Veteran (level 20) Twink to give me an edge.

If lvl 20 Starter Edition Trials had their own bracket in PvP, noone would pay for WoW anymore lol, unfortunately Blizzard ruins alot of things but $ is the first priority, they have heaps of employees and mouths to feed.

- I would suggest true F2Per's to use the F2Paddon, and try to all bunch up on one server to make your experience more interactive.

- Also enjoy the simplicity of F2P PvE and achievement hunting, if you focus too much on PvP, you'll get frustrated knowing that your weaker stat-wise.

- Also if your a pure F2P, you will die too easily playing damage based/squishy classes like Rogue/Mage etc, so play OP/survivability Classes like Druid/Monk/Pally etc, so you have a chance to survive, the main reason I upgraded my account, was because my F2P Rogue wasn't dishing out respectable burst damage anymore.

- Become a Veteran, only one month of membership gives you access to AH and Enchants/advantages which will make you BiS and alot stronger, and as long as you stay at level 20, your account will be stronger and still playable once the subscription is over, so after 1 month of paying, you can play for free after that, and still have all the advantages, fair trade in my opinion.

- Just make a lvl 20-29 Twink on another account, Twink it out, see how it is, make it Veteran, then keep it strictly for PvP use, this means you can still do PvE on your F2P Main account, but whilst your doing that you have another stronger account with BG/Arena Que's popping in the background if you feel like PvPing.

- Also, if your an F2P, purchase WoW draenor on another account, it comes with a free lvl 90 character boost, use that character to help run you through high end stuff. Or try to get your account linked for extra goodies/collectibles.

Don't forget, as an F2P the game isn't meant to cater for you, you have to cater to it, I remember the most fun thing about being F2P was working your way around things/F2P restrictions/disadvantages. I remember people thinking 'gosh, for a Trial account hes really good', and every Objective/Achievement obtained via an F2P felt 10x better + the simplicity of the gameplay, and the feeling of no pressure whenever you want to/don't want to play, because either way, its not costing you anything

Look at my Signature Link Below this post to see how my Character is doing, It was an F2P Trial for 4 years, I Twinked it out just for 1 month's subscription (2 weeks left), and after my subscription is over, I will probably maintain veteran status forever, unless I feel like using the Auction House to stock up on some Consumables, at first I was reluctant to do so because I was a Trial for so long, but I can gladly say, that I haven't regretted my decision and I would do it again, my Gameplay/PvP experience has been enhanced by subscribing, even if it is only for 1 month, the advantages are too good not to try it.

Conclusion: I think the bracket is ok, compared to the other brackets, the community is good, there's something for everyone, also there is both a F2P and P2P community within our level bracket which makes it diverse.

I come from both sides, I do sympathize for F2P-ers out there, as I used to be one (and still have the spirit of one too), but Veteran is also an advantageous option that you should atleast re-consider before complaining.

I don't want there to be any fights either, I treat a P2P or a F2P like a friend, communities are good because people feel welcome, and in this bracket, your welcome to be P2P or F2P.

 

[Neon]

cons:

faction imbalance (same thing in 19s though)

pay to win mentality

community is spread all over the place, not unified like 19s

not everyone are looking for competitive games

29 bms and spriests and ferals

slow q times

pros:

it is not controlled by twinks with a vast amount of knowledge of the game like 19s meaning many of the players dont have much experience which leads to more balanced games in a way

you can outplay vets or 29s with knowledge

its an easy bracket to make good plays

 

[Pixel]

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Don’t think you said anything that I didn’t agree with.
I think the deal breaker is vets. Funny that we all thought it would be the best thing to ever happen to this bracket (well nearly all, respect to the ppl that saw it coming). As quite a few people have said, the general OPness has increased in this bracket as a result of vets. In Cata/MoP it was a bunch of relatively mild f2ps and a few OP individuals. It might have been better if everyone was f2p, but we dealt with it and often had a great time.
Maybe things like primarystat/ability interactions have affected things too, but mostly it’s veteran accounts that have given a whole bunch of players the ability to do a lot more damage, and as has been said, this devalues tactical and strategic play.
Queues haven’t helped, but as was also brought up, queue times are only a reflection of how many people want to play our bracket/game. Unless queue mechanics are beyond broken which I’m not convinced of (can get Oceanic peak bg’s to pop by queuing a few horde after being in queue for hours on alliance).
The f2p of old is gone, and there doesn't seem to be anywhere else to get a similar experience.
tis a bit sad.

 

[Lanky]

this is quite funny to see. yes pugs are shit and all, but on EU and US people dedicated their time to make 10v10s for f2ps. so that you could get balanced games. no one signed up lol. oh f2ps

 

[Allybeboba]

I still have not seen too many "garbage" comments.
Very good comments so far though.

19's are not as great as everyone makes them out to be, trust me. They have have their steamy underbelly as well. 20-29's are just, or 20's since there are so very few 29's posting in this thread, are looking at them with rose colered glasses.

/cheers
Sweetsidney

 

[Marens]

Male blood elf paladins with names of Lord of the rings elves missing a huge bunch of gear pieces lower the quality of this bracket.

Not only paladins, I've seen tons of hunters with the name 'Legolas'. Yeah, it's sad.

 

[LennywBT]

This bracket is garbage. Thanks to blizzard, we barely escaped the monstrous damage from Ferals, Rogues , BM monks. Now they added the food buff / The new trinket, wich is even more OP than a Feral... (An item does more damage than a class itself, the idea of balance is WOAH! Outstanding. ) -.-

Ill focus way more into doing skrimishes and maybe sometimes BGs. Because this...

 

[willix]

cons:

pay to win mentality

People who pay for the game are not 'paying to win.' Wow is not a 'pay to win' game. It isn't a 'free to play' game either. It is a buy to play game with a subscription fee, that has a starter edition element one can play until level 20 without paying, but that does not make Wow 'free to play.' People who pay for a subscription are playing the game... the way it was designed and intended to be played. Nothing more, nothing less. People who are twinking on a starter account are not playing the game the way it was designed and intended to be played.

community is spread all over the place, not unified like 19s

You don't need to have a group of players located on a central server in order to have a coherent community. We did it for years in the 29 bracket, despite people being scattered on different servers. We've revived the bracket half a dozen times, in half a dozen different dismal states, with patches ruining any semblance of quality without community driven altruism.

This is something I really can't impress enough on those of you who weren't there: you don't have to maintain the status quo. Not now, not ever. The fact that you choose to, means you create your own problems. Blizzard will never make things perfect. Only you can pick up the pieces of their design problems and make the best of it by being the type of community I outlined in my earlier post.

not everyone are looking for competitive games

Then they shouldn't be twinking. The entire point of making a twink is to become competitive, especially in pvp against other players. In fact, that's the entire point of pvp to begin with, competition. If competition isn't your goal, you're playing the game wrong.

it is not controlled by twinks with a vast amount of knowledge of the game like 19s meaning many of the players dont have much experience which leads to more balanced games in a way

Games aren't more balanced because of this. They are less balanced. You have significantly higher chances of getting into lopsided games just by queuing into 20-29s. If a community driven initiative were established in this bracket, it would necessarily exclude F2Ps, thus eliminating one of the biggest factors that lead to lopsided games. A community driven initiative could also limit the number of players playing OP classes, increase the viability of underpowered specs, and lower the chances of getting into games with insufficient roles on each side.

In fact, a community driven initiative is the best possible outcome for tiwnking. We've seen it first hand on more than one occasion in 29s, before F2Ps were forced into our bracket. To be perfectly honest, the complaints you've lodged here are like going to a pizza place and complaining that other people are getting more topping on their pizza just because they paid for them.

you can outplay vets or 29s with knowledge

its an easy bracket to make good plays

It's an easy bracket to make good plays because the majority of players are trash at the game, despite the toons they are playing. That's why it's possible to outplay vets or 29s as a F2P. The wild variance in skill, character quality, and character level is what leads to the problems you outlined here, and the overall terrible quality of the bracket. Not sure how you don't see that.

 

[Trialkiller]

If you have a problem with class balance then WoW isn't the game for you because that's always gonna be around... other than that my only complaint about the bracket is that there's just too many nooby trial accounts who don't gear, don't understand mechanics, don't communicate and often don't even speak english. Maybe it's just me but it feels like I see far too many Jaja's with no direction who just fight roads and mid for HK's instead of trying to win, but to be fair almost every bracket in WoW is like this.

That or I'm cursed to a lifetime of bad bg's because of all the carnage I've unleashed on poor level 20s over the years... 29s for lyfe

 

[Srs]

What makes this bracket exceptional is the trials. No other bracket has that. In that, it is the exception.

 

[Pookums]

Just because everyone INSISTS on segregating the bracket we need a new "label". I play 29's and have a subbed acct (in addition to my linked pure F2P acct) but I am still in fact a F2P! How you ask? Well my garrisons pay for the game for me, I cancelled my sub a month ago. So technically, since I play the game for free, I am a F2P with 29's New forum for my kind please

 

[Allybeboba]

A subbed account the does not pay.

/cheers
Sweetsidney

 

[venus]

i like this bracket for the friendly people that i met along the way of playing f2p and now vet (20) my real id list is growing with happy people

 

[Allybeboba]

I stopped keeping "score" a long long time ago because as you all can see even though some of you say the bracket is "garbage". You really can not come up with any real sound lay your hand on reasons why it is "garbage" or the reason far outweigh why the bracket is awesome!
So next year year time you get the urge to rage about the bracket being "garbage" come to this thread and post here. However, all I ask is that you post something original. Not the same old crap.


/cheers
Sweetsidney