What does the bracket need?

[Becky]

in a world where our faction suffers a massive lack in healers we have to all play the one class that can dispel because of a consumable some scrub uses. nah bro nice try, simply put theres a reason things like this arent allowed in premades in any bracket.. And sure I get it, were not premading in the pugs. But the amount of shams priest locks and druids horde side greatly out weigh the need for faps its nothing more than a crutch and it will continue to remain laughable.

The lack of healers on both sides seems about even, at least the alliance paladins seem to heal more than the shamans do lol. Not to mention the Blessing of Freedom spam on flag carriers.

While I agree about mass amount of shamans on horde, ally have about just as many paladins per game. I dont know about the whole more priests/locks/druids on horde. In my experience so far, Ally definitely have more druids/locks on a per game average than horde. As far as priests it seems about even.

But my point still stands from before, Faps are available to both factions. Either use them or don't. But if you choose not to use them, thats on you. Dont complain when others do.

 

[Ijazrkovaiyd]

Any player that wants to play BGs seriously should always have at least some of these consumes in their bags:

I. HP/Mana pots
II. Heavy Runecloth Bandages
III. Iron Grenades
IV. Goblin Sapper Charges
V. Freedom Action Potions
VI. Flash Bombs

This is the most basic consumes you'll see in BGs from level 29-60.

 

[Lrh]

in a world where our faction suffers a massive lack in healers we have to all play the one class that can dispel because of a consumable some scrub uses. nah bro nice try, simply put theres a reason things like this arent allowed in premades in any bracket.. And sure I get it, were not premading in the pugs. But the amount of shams priest locks and druids horde side greatly out weigh the need for faps its nothing more than a crutch and it will continue to remain laughable.

I don't prefer to play restricted. I have a free action potion I can use whenever, I have other potions/bandages/elixirs I can use whenever, I have engineering gadgets/bombs/trinkets I can use whenever.

When people start to try to limit what can and can't be used that opens the floodgates to limiting other areas of the game as well.

No limits.

 

[Outofspace]

Any player that wants to play BGs seriously should always have at least some of these consumes in their bags:

I. HP/Mana pots
II. Heavy Runecloth Bandages
III. Iron Grenades
IV. Goblin Sapper Charges
V. Freedom Action Potions
VI. Flash Bombs

This is the most basic consumes you'll see in BGs from level 29-60.

I would add Anti-Venom to the list, specially for Mana users. Cheap and super effective! GGs yesterday, you're a pretty good warrior

 

[Androlleck]

60's are allowed to FAP to victory but if a 39 does hes "crutching" it is what it is guys, stop crying about something blizzard put into the game that is being used as intended.

so then tell me what exactly can the alliance pugs do to stop druid efc's who fap on Cooldown. we lack and I mean seriously lack priests which aside from lock pet is the only way to dispel it other wise its an unstoppable travel form and guarantee mid cross with the flag each and every time. Alliance doesnt have the luxury of running at someone spamming purge. each game we que on average is a consistent 2-3 sham. I get it Freedom is OP.. But Purge is Flat out broken answer that for me because there isnt a "Crutch" we can use to stop it.

 

[Outofspace]

so then tell me what exactly can the alliance pugs do to stop druid efc's who fap on Cooldown. we lack and I mean seriously lack priests which aside from lock pet is the only way to dispel it other wise its an unstoppable travel form and guarantee mid cross with the flag each and every time. Alliance doesnt have the luxury of running at someone spamming purge. each game we que on average is a consistent 2-3 sham. I get it Freedom is OP.. But Purge is Flat out broken answer that for me because there isnt a "Crutch" we can use to stop it.

My short answer is: get possession of the flag? Like you would in any game? You're not doing it right if your strategy comes down to "Well they got our flag - too bad for us GG!"

 

[Scrubhuntin]

I'd counter-point and argue further but changing peoples minds online is the definition of futility.

 

[Androlleck]

My short answer is: get possession of the flag? Like you would in any game? You're not doing it right if your strategy comes down to "Well they got our flag - too bad for us GG!"

well sure I feel like that would have been obvious im sorry i should have stated that. What I mean is how do you return against a druid given the same parameters and fap on cd. We only play objectively thats why its incredibly frustrating to deal with.

 

[Kathil]

I'm making a 39 huntard (Awwimsorry) and a 39 healbot priest (Maltris) on Skeram (Horde). The guild name is <The Twink in Pink> and we are currently recruiting 39s and 49s.

 

[Vehexmence]

so then tell me what exactly can the alliance pugs do to stop druid efc's who fap on Cooldown. we lack and I mean seriously lack priests which aside from lock pet is the only way to dispel it other wise its an unstoppable travel form and guarantee mid cross with the flag each and every time. Alliance doesnt have the luxury of running at someone spamming purge. each game we que on average is a consistent 2-3 sham. I get it Freedom is OP.. But Purge is Flat out broken answer that for me because there isnt a "Crutch" we can use to stop it.

You realize that alliance play a heavy turtle almost every single game without question right? You guys usually have mutliple rogues, warrior, hunters and locks all just sitting in the FR. Scatter, Fear (Wich go through fap) and the overall burst is usually enough to take down an FC (who is mostly always alone) even with a FAP on considering that 99% of the leveler shamans on horde don't purge or heal (maybe themselves a few times a game)

It comes down to wanting to play an hour long game or popping a FAP and getting some caps on the board.

 

[Androlleck]

You realize that alliance play a heavy turtle almost every single game without question right? You guys usually have mutliple rogues, warrior, hunters and locks all just sitting in the FR. Scatter, Fear (Wich go through fap) and the overall burst is usually enough to take down an FC (who is mostly always alone) even with a FAP on considering that 99% of the leveler shamans on horde don't purge or heal (maybe themselves a few times a game)

It comes down to wanting to play an hour long game or popping a FAP and getting some caps on the board.

It has been without a doubt the opposite for us. We never turtle and the lack of warlocks priest etc is overwhelming. The fact is that fap constantly is the problem not one and done. Imagine what it takes to cross mid as a warlock or ret pally against stacked teams with shams locks hunters etc. only to finally get on efc who kites with faps while the vast majority of your team is in mid not base mid. With 3 locks shams just destroying mid constantly most of the time the pugs run in base because they dont know how to cross mid and tired of getting farmed by ranged classes. The ally pugs only turtle because of horde mid chop. Now consider trying to kite with a gauntlet to roof and a bunch of horde twinks fap and just run through it mostly untouched so you fap but get purged spammed. Add orc racial on top of that and you have someone who is nearly impossible to stop or cc.

 

[Hauntz]

It has been without a doubt the opposite for us. We never turtle and the lack of warlocks priest etc is overwhelming. The fact is that fap constantly is the problem not one and done. Imagine what it takes to cross mid as a warlock or ret pally against stacked teams with shams locks hunters etc. only to finally get on efc who kites with faps while the vast majority of your team is in mid not base mid. With 3 locks shams just destroying mid constantly most of the time the pugs run in base because they dont know how to cross mid and tired of getting farmed by ranged classes. The ally pugs only turtle because of horde mid chop. Now consider trying to kite with a gauntlet to roof and a bunch of horde twinks fap and just run through it mostly untouched so you fap but get purged spammed. Add orc racial on top of that and you have someone who is nearly impossible to stop or cc.

"lack of warlocks" There's at the very least, the same amount as horde. I Queue into 3-4 gnome warlocks named dotlol almost every game. On a side note I think Youb is the only twink i've seen without a play on the word warlock or dot.

 

[Desx]

"lack of warlocks" There's at the very least, the same amount as horde. I Queue into 3-4 gnome warlocks named dotlol almost every game. On a side note I think Youb is the only twink i've seen without a play on the word warlock or dot.

How did you know skorzeny was German for shadowbolt

 

[Hauntz]

How did you know skorzeny was German for shadowbolt

Yeah you thought I wouldn't figure it out but I took german in highschool buddy

 

[Vehexmence]

"lack of warlocks" There's at the very least, the same amount as horde. I Queue into 3-4 gnome warlocks named dotlol almost every game. On a side note I think Youb is the only twink i've seen without a play on the word warlock or dot.

This.
Literally every other game it's 4 twink locks literally rotting my entire team of levelers and I am the only one running flags at all.
@Androlleck I think you are somewhat dense and don't understand what is currently going on in these games.
If you wanna put together a team I will gladly fight them.

ESGETTI

 

[Desx]

This.
Literally every other game it's 4 twink locks literally rotting my entire team of levelers and I am the only one running flags at all.
@Androlleck I think you are somewhat dense and don't understand what is currently going on in these games.
If you wanna put together a team I will gladly fight them.

ESGETTI

This.
Literally every other game it's 4 twink locks literally rotting my entire team of levelers and I am the only one running flags at all.
@Androlleck I think you are somewhat dense and don't understand what is currently going on in these games.
If you wanna put together a team I will gladly fight them.

ESGETTI

From what I see everyone saying I think horde and Ally have different views I honestly don't see as many locks on alliance as you do or druids but when I play it's 2 hunters 2 locks 3 druids on horde Almost everytime. Might be because of the imbalance but I'm not sure.

 

[ReckoningOG]

I keep running into groups of four locks and 2 hunters on ally side. Ticks the mana of mage FC pretty fast.

 

[Androlleck]

This.
Literally every other game it's 4 twink locks literally rotting my entire team of levelers and I am the only one running flags at all.
@Androlleck I think you are somewhat dense and don't understand what is currently going on in these games.
If you wanna put together a team I will gladly fight them.

ESGETTI

Dense like that dynamite am I right? Already got a team. Already faced you, no problems. What does that have to do with anything at all? “ I fight four locks every game make a team and fight me” lol back on subject as alliance twink numbers increase the games get better @Hauntz screen shot of white mane game shows it is getting better for both sides

 

[Vehexmence]

Dense like that dynamite am I right? Already got a team. Already faced you, no problems. What does that have to do with anything at all? “ I fight four locks every game make a team and fight me” lol back on subject as alliance twink numbers increase the games get better @Hauntz screen shot of white mane game shows it is getting better for both sides

You are clearly missing the point. You claim that our pug shamans are playing well, which is not the case. Most of them are absolute DOGSHITE. @woodzy91 can show you how it's done.
You say you are missing locks wich is not true at least for my games, Wich have been a lot (I have over 60k honor this week) and I have played at all hours of the day.
You claim to have no problems versus my squad but the squad is not even assembled yet, give me til the end of the week and name the time and place and let's have us a scrap.

Actual Pic of RÔmmel:

 

[Androlleck]

You are clearly missing the point. You claim that our pug shamans are playing well, which is not the case. Most of them are absolute DOGSHITE. @woodzy91 can show you how it's done.
You say you are missing locks wich is not true at least for my games, Wich have been a lot (I have over 60k honor this week) and I have played at all hours of the day.
You claim to have no problems versus my squad but the squad is not even assembled yet, give me til the end of the week and name the time and place and let's have us a scrap.

Actual Pic of RÔmmel:

Rofl calm down carren get your faps ready so you can run from a Ret paladin