WARNING: Experience is banking even with EXP turned OFF (FIXED)

[wily.virus]

Last I subbed was during Legion, perhaps I could have been away for too long (only started f2p early this year) and Bliz could be splitting vet accounts further. It could be related, but my present level 20 druid does not have the artifact forms & weapon mogs that I had on my main druid in Legion days.

That could be true. My remember taking forever to save up for a Snowy White Gryphon for my first flying mount in TBC, and flew with her just about everywhere. Of course when I return on F2P she's not in my mount stable. And many achievements are missing.

I suspect I will need to hop on all my old chars during some free weekend to sync up all mounts & achievements.

 

[wily.virus]

Now I need to decide if I should sub for one month to convert my account to vet, or just accept this downgrade in account status and bank xp on my main lvl 20s

As long as I am flagged xp off, I will not ding from banked xp as long as I keep my chars permanently xp off correct?

 

[chelly]

Now I need to decide if I should sub for one month to convert my account to vet, or just accept this downgrade in account status and bank xp on my main lvl 20s

As long as I am flagged xp off, I will not ding from banked xp as long as I keep my chars permanently xp off correct?

This is no longer happening. Veteran status accounts are no longer gaining banked xp since last weekend.

While you can always keep yourself experience disabled, it will prevent you from queuing battlegrounds, while you are not subbed.

 

[Wisely]

After yesterday's extended maintenance, I'm still not seeing my Bnet friends list. Nothing seems to have really changed.

Last I subbed was during Legion, perhaps I could have been away for too long (only started f2p early this year) and Bliz could be splitting vet accounts further. It could be related, but my present level 20 druid does not have the artifact forms & weapon mogs that I had on my main druid in Legion days.

Here is blizzard repr. response onto similar question, concerning selective vet2starter humiliation:
After reviewing the account, I can confirm that while it has received game time over the years, it has only done so through WoW Tokens, and not through real-money purchases since 2017.

In order to fully restore Veteran status and remove Starter restrictions, such as limitations on mail, auction house, and trading (especially in WoW Classic)—the account must have used at least 26 days of paid game time purchased with real money since November 2017. This is a requirement built into the system to ensure full access and entitlement.

 

[chelly]

Here is blizzard repr. response onto similar question, concerning selective vet2starter humiliation:
After reviewing the account, I can confirm that while it has received game time over the years, it has only done so through WoW Tokens, and not through real-money purchases since 2017.

In order to fully restore Veteran status and remove Starter restrictions, such as limitations on mail, auction house, and trading (especially in WoW Classic)—the account must have used at least 26 days of paid game time purchased with real money since November 2017. This is a requirement built into the system to ensure full access and entitlement.

Interesting? so if you don’t sub on a vet account for long enough it will revert to starter edition?

Or was November 2017 the WOD patch that introduced veteran status. I can’t remember

 

[Wisely]

Interesting? so if you don’t sub on a vet account for long enough it will revert to starter edition?

Or was November 2017 the WOD patch that introduced veteran status. I can’t remember

I think it's just a nice way to gtfo. Since i have few vet accounts with similar approach (free wow) and only one remained starter after 11.2 demotion.

 

[flux1]

The account should stay vet status. My guess is they are saying whatever the used to fix the bug only went back that far as to see if you made a game time purchase and if you didn't it left you f2p.

 

[Wisely]

The account should stay vet status. My guess is they are saying whatever the used to fix the bug only went back that far as to see if you made a game time purchase and if you didn't it left you f2p.

Ironically, the result is opposite. If vet accounts still have some chance a token will be cast on them, starters gonna be dead forever.

ps: Actually, this is a milestone. We always thought that if some dept in the blizzard's Ministry of Evil is working with 100% efficiency, than it is the accounting one. Cos - you know, they sit on money flow itself, failure is not an oooopstion.
And now they faced a huge shell-hole made by themselves. Bravo, sincere respects.

 

[Dev]

Or was November 2017 the WOD patch that introduced veteran status. I can’t remember

Yeah nah, Legion was live by then so past Veteran account activation. Also why 2017? That's 8 years ago, why that number? I think Vets were put out in 2015.

 

[Touren]

Here is blizzard repr. response onto similar question, concerning selective vet2starter humiliation:
After reviewing the account, I can confirm that while it has received game time over the years, it has only done so through WoW Tokens, and not through real-money purchases since 2017.

In order to fully restore Veteran status and remove Starter restrictions, such as limitations on mail, auction house, and trading (especially in WoW Classic)—the account must have used at least 26 days of paid game time purchased with real money since November 2017. This is a requirement built into the system to ensure full access and entitlement.

Well that explains it. Patch 7.3 introduced the Argus storyline in Aug 2017, and I remember I quit just before that.

Guess I'm firmly in starter edition now. Mostly the annoyance is in-game Bnet chat that's not working on my side, but all is not lost on that front. My friends can still see me on their list, invite me to party as per previous and chat from their in-game, whilst for me I can only chat on external Bnet via the launcher.

What I'm not sure though, if this Nov 2017 restriction was something Bliz only introduced last week or was there all along but somehow not enforced or something.

 

[Wisely]

Well that explains it. Patch 7.3 introduced the Argus storyline in Aug 2017, and I remember I quit just before that.

Guess I'm firmly in starter edition now. Mostly the annoyance is in-game Bnet chat that's not working on my side, but all is not lost on that front. My friends can still see me on their list, invite me to party as per previous and chat from their in-game, whilst for me I can only chat on external Bnet via the launcher.

What I'm not sure though, if this Nov 2017 restriction was something Bliz only introduced last week or was there all along but somehow not enforced or something.

I still think this is just another more or less bs flow to shut me (us?) up.
Cos following paragraph was like
To resolve this, you’ll need to purchase game time or a subscription directly with real money and allow 26 days to pass. Once that threshold is met, the restrictions will lift automatically. You can read more about this policy and its implications here: https://support.blizzard.com/article/000358296

Waitwhat, he refers to the classic wow article.

 

[CigNus]

the account must have used at least 26 days of paid game time purchased with real money since November 2017. This is a requirement built into the system to ensure full access and entitlement.

This sounds like a load of bullshit. I mean I've seen some mods not know what they're talking about... but this seems like they're just making shit up lol

 

[SPQR]

In order to fully restore Veteran status and remove Starter restrictions, such as limitations on mail, auction house, and trading (especially in WoW Classic)—the account must have used at least 26 days of paid game time purchased with real money since November 2017. This is a requirement built into the system to ensure full access and entitlement.

Clearly they do not read back what they type. If it is even human at this point.
This makes it sound like veteran accounts suppose to have mail box, trading and access to classic.
This is clearly a bullshit copy cat filler.

I got 2 licenses on same account that were bought a decade ago on the same day during Battlechest days for 5$ each.
Both are identical and hardly had game time on them and never was there "real" payment for subscription (also define "real" since once it is a bnet balance it is all same soup).

1 license was hotfixed back to veteran status and now working as it did prior this mess.
2 license is acting like trial despite clear indication in bnet overview of it being Inactive.

Those affected should keep on making tickets because it is a real issue and every ticket cost them money.
Indicate that you have issue with your Inactive account and it is acting the wrong way.

Was this a senior GM or the normal? they usually state that in the beginning.
As ticket progresses you are bound to get someone competent to answer.
At least you use to.

 

[Wisely]

1 license was hotfixed back to veteran status and now working as it did prior this mess.
2 license is acting like trial despite clear indication in bnet overview of it being Inactive.

Quite similar to my personal case, except I'm not allowed to use bnet balance but still can use tokens to get gametime directly.

Those affected should keep on making tickets because it is a real issue and every ticket cost them money.
Indicate that you have issue with your Inactive account and it is acting the wrong way.

Was this a senior GM or the normal? they usually state that in the beginning.
As ticket progresses you are bound to get someone competent to answer.
At least you use to.

This was a regulat GM, from 2nd iteration of tickets, and i beleive it was a human being.
As for escalating following tickets, i am out of good ideas to continue that doomed conversation, maybe i could figure some arguments later. Advises appreciated, ofc.

 

[SPQR]

Quite similar to my personal case, except I'm not allowed to use bnet balance but still can use tokens to get gametime directly.


This was a regulat GM, from 2nd iteration of tickets, and i beleive it was a human being.
As for escalating following tickets, i am out of good ideas to continue that doomed conversation, maybe i could figure some arguments later. Advises appreciated, ofc.

Not allowed as in on battle net shop? so they in essence stole your battle net wallet from you? or is it that you not able to add more balance with existing tokens? or is it just that license? The thing this gm of yours trying to allude to is probably the block on accounts to buy New wow tokens if no payments been done since 2018. That was a thing for some time now. Hardly related to this current mess.
To my knowledge your existing funds are completely untouched.

Even seen blue forum post stating that converting existing tokens to bnet balance and buying sub with it would restore your ability to buy new tokens.
And honestly anything other than that is a Theft.

Sounds like different issue to this.
There are always ways to provide counter arguments due to the way they structure responses.
Probably can keep it reasonable for 10 tickets since you are no wrong and it was on their end.
Just stick to the fact that your license not working correctly with relation to recent hotfix.
They may end up threatening you if you wont stop at some point but in this situation its probably to your benefit.

Other option would be waiting for free weekend that suppose to happen soon™ and hope it solves it .
Or just paying again. But where is any guarantee or fun in that.

Do you still bank xp on effected license?
License in question of yours still marked as Inactive on your account overview?
Was this token to balance issue a thing prio patch?

 

[Calligraphy]

The statement that you need to have paid real money since 2017 isn't something the GM just pulled out of his ass. It clearly hasn't been enforced, but I did remember hearing something about it.

 

[chelly]

The statement that you need to have paid real money since 2017 isn't something the GM just pulled out of his ass. It clearly hasn't been enforced, but I did remember hearing something about it.

Great find. So this isn’t necessarily a targeted attack on veteran 20s but rather a rule implemented to limit people who play for free by just farming up a wow token every month like Cristi.

(Some) veterans are just caught in the crossfire?