Warband Bank access revoked for F2Ps & Vets

U can use the items inside the warbank... (crafts and move around) u simply cannot take them out or put 'em in. That's the weird thing. And u cannot withdraw nor deposit gold...

On top of That > they 've just added another "shadowland skip"... now u can skip 1) the intro 2) the 1st chain and go straight to Covenant choice (u can basically skip before the quest to open portals basically the 1st quest after the skip) and UNLOCK wquests in all 1-60 zones.. items from wquests (shadowlands) still keep their lvl req (50) but u can get the trasmo if u miss, u can access the covenant area, u can put anima in the Sanctum but u cannot activate anything cos it requires lvl 60 (at least with Night Fae the only 1 i tried). I have the impression that a couple of rares got scaled down as flexible rather than lvl 50-60 but i could be wrong.
Now technically, with some patience and a lot of wquests u can raise rep to any covenant... U won't have the gold to buy anything but... I guess u can unlock some secrets/rares around with specific covenants (not tried).

Not sure if u can use the 2nd skip if u're into the main Bastion Campaign... I skipped on a fresh lvl 20 char > shadowland timeline > just for those few back/rings/ammies/wpns rares.
 
setsunahq said:
I ran multiple CATA TW with a fresh lvl10 in heirloom as a DPS and it was devastating experience, met frost DK tank, semi-afk tank, everything is just frustrating.

11 fury are a necessity at this point.
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Heirlooms are very bad at lower levels, I’m pretty sure the armor upgrade greens are stronger than currently scaled looms.
 
Mark31 said:
U can use the items inside the warbank... (crafts and move around) u simply cannot take them out or put 'em in. That's the weird thing. And u cannot withdraw nor deposit gold...

On top of That > they 've just added another "shadowland skip"... now u can skip 1) the intro 2) the 1st chain and go straight to Covenant choice (u can basically skip before the quest to open portals basically the 1st quest after the skip) and UNLOCK wquests in all 1-60 zones.. items from wquests (shadowlands) still keep their lvl req (50) but u can get the trasmo if u miss, u can access the covenant area, u can put anima in the Sanctum but u cannot activate anything cos it requires lvl 60 (at least with Night Fae the only 1 i tried). I have the impression that a couple of rares got scaled down as flexible rather than lvl 50-60 but i could be wrong.
Now technically, with some patience and a lot of wquests u can raise rep to any covenant... U won't have the gold to buy anything but... I guess u can unlock some secrets/rares around with specific covenants (not tried).

Not sure if u can use the 2nd skip if u're into the main Bastion Campaign... I skipped on a fresh lvl 20 char > shadowland timeline > just for those few back/rings/ammies/wpns rares.
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Remember that there are weeklies that give some of the Covenant reputation and anima with the brokers under the inn in Orobios.
 
sector3600 said:
The funny thing is the ability to see the Warband bank items and use Warband bank regents in F2P crafting.

Veteran accounts <=20 need active gametime before they can use the warband bank as well as still deposit regents or items used for crafting in the warband bank to be able to use with linked F2P (for now).
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Basically the only reason 153GB of space haven't been liberated from my Blizzard drive. Very little indication this isn't intended. Even the responses people have gotten from GMs seem to be instructed to avoid directly addressing the issue.
 
As a long-time veteran player, I've always used free weekends to offload a large number of Bind-on-Equip (BoE) items into guild banks, hoping to sell them later. Recently, I subscribed for a month and began aggressively listing around 2000 BoE items on the Auction House (AH), moving them between guild banks and warbanks.

Shortly after I started this, I noticed a significant decline in the performance of these actions. There were noticeable delays when moving items to/from the AH and warbanks, sometimes even requiring me to close and reopen the guild bank interface to see the items.

Then, a hotfix was implemented that temporarily blocked access to the warbank. Coincidentally, the performance of all these actions dramatically improved.

I can't help but wonder if my attempts to liquidate years of accumulated legacy BoE items by constantly moving them between Blizzard's 'cold' and 'hot' storage systems somehow overloaded their database. =) :Troll:
 
More like: their metrics show a steady dropoff of player activity and subbed accounts, particularly as TWW ages poorly. Blizzard sees all the people participating in this activity at level 20, without paying a sub, they take action. It's not a huge number of people, but it's enough to give them metrics on 'warbank use' where they notice that 'free to play' players are able to access this feature and that's probably 'not intended.'

I wanted to believe Blizzard was finally putting players first. Nope, just another expansion full of the same Blizzard F*ckerey
 
Blizzard just seems to not do things that need fixing but focusing on random "not really broken" things is hilarious and frustrating.

Like Alliance vs Horde in PVP - low level Alliance toons can use portal to Tol Barad and even grind out reputation/faction currency if their faction holds that area (or one is careful to turn the flags over before the end) with the battle ends, but less than level 24 Alliance cannot use their Alterac Valley toy in that battlefield.
 
Willyshatner said:
Basically the only reason 153GB of space haven't been liberated from my Blizzard drive.
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current retail only size about 110gig.
Go to wow folder - data - indices - remove everything inside. Next time you start app / game it will rebuild essential needs. around 300-500 mb. Do so from patch to patch as it grows.
Go to battle net folder and see how many builds it backed up. (i.e Battle.net.15162 , Battle.net.15146 or similar) usually 2-3 back ups. Delete older versions if amount is above few.
 
FrozenWill said:
Heirlooms are very bad at lower levels, I’m pretty sure the armor upgrade greens are stronger than currently scaled looms.
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Heirlooms are generally bad, or at least worse than equivalent gear you can acquire at that level, at every level, which isn't relevant to twinks obviously.

The big advantage of heirloom gear is not having to replace it as you level and, to a lesser extent, getting more use out of rested XP.

The Hellscreams heirlooms are pretty nice to bootstrap with however because they are free 2 socket items. They aren't available now but they previously were in MoP (IIRC) and, more recently, you could buy them cheap in MoP Remix. Still, long term you'd never use them over gear you can acquire in game.
wily.virus said:
I'm seeing lvl 10 holy priest melting cata TW instead of fury warriors this week

Currently there are BS mechanics that will instakill a 11 fury tank so they have to queue as dps. Now healers clear entire groups in seconds with holy nova.
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I'm a little skeptical of the effectiveness of this.

For one, the mechanics that are a problem for Fury warriors are the ones that insta-kill you. If they insta-kill a fury warrior, they're going to insta-kill a Holy Priest. Holy Nova won't prevent that.

The second boss on Gundrak (in WotLK TW) has this problem: it melee strikes for like 70% of your health for some reason. This was a little easier on a MW monk than Fury warrior because it was easier to heal between strikes. A couple of hits without healing could kill a Fury Warrior. I guess Holy Priest could be fine here too.

But a Fury Warrior can always respec Prot and put on a shield and be absolutely fine. In fact, that's what I did on Gundrak if I didn't trust the healer (which I didn't most of the time).

Holy Priests of course were super popular in Remix for a bunch of reasons, mainly due to the cloak scaling of Holy Nova.

I'd be really surprised if Holy Nova in Retail would let you get hit less often enough to beat WW.
 
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hm, popped back in to see what i'm missing, and not regretting having been on other things. my buns are still toasty from getting burned enough before, glad i got outta the fire.
rivals is pretty fun, kinda reminds me of wowpvp in that a premade is way diff than soloq, pvp tanking is an attention-soaking role, backline divers, etcetc... much of the same map-knowledge and positioning kinda stuff applies.
 
wily.virus said:
I'm seeing lvl 10 holy priest melting cata TW instead of fury warriors this week

Currently there are BS mechanics that will instakill a 11 fury tank so they have to queue as dps. Now healers clear entire groups in seconds with holy nova.
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After seeing your comment, I made a lvl 11 holy priest twink. Really OP and fun, although I have to say it is hard to multitask.

And yeah, I am upset about warbands. Seems very petty by Blizzard.

After all, twinks are essentially free boosts which keep paying players happy.

In any kind of game, it is always a few whales that pay for everything anyway. (buying cosmetics and the like)
 
Boii said:
rip everyone, it is official...
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I won't put much stock in customer support support replies. They are generally out of the loop about real decisions going upstairs, and are often working minimum wage from outsourced tech centers to handle common player problems.
 
Conzil said:
feels too op for F2P
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Warbank and flying has made F2P feel like a totally different game. I've enjoyed both and gotten a lot more done with them, but losing either won't make me stop playing. They should have put Warbank on withdraw only, though, since it's their own fault we had access to it. They basically stole our stuff. RIP my 200 enchanting scrolls.

Though, I certainly don't feel as bad as the paying players must feel who say they've lost millions to the Warbank void.
 
wily.virus said:
I won't put much stock in customer support support replies. They are generally out of the loop about real decisions going upstairs, and are often working minimum wage from outsourced tech centers to handle common player problems.
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I might believe this if they'd given a vague "please check wowhead" responsibility-dodging non-answer instead of "yea this is working as intended, pls sub to resume use" answer.
 
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