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You have a very mercantilist understanding of how you think capitalism works...
And you believe that somehow stealing from the most productive members of society will raise the living standards of all. Remember, government doesnt create wealth, it can only redistribute it. Tax the rich to feed the poor and you remove any incentive for the rich to produce. Every centrally planned economy creates 2 classes, the ruling few and everyone else being equally broke.
 
And you believe that somehow stealing from the most productive members of society will raise the living standards of all.
Not at all. what youve described is capitalism, not socialism
Remember, government doesnt create wealth
true, labor creates wealth.
it can only redistribute it.
Also true. the purpose of establishing a society with a government in to see to the distribution of societies excess resources (read: wealth)
Tax the rich to feed the poor and you remove any incentive for the rich to produce.
The rich dont produce anyway. Labor produces. the rich just accumulate.
Every centrally planned economy creates 2 classes, the ruling few and everyone else being equally broke.
A popular refrain but also a wild misunderstanding of labor being in charge.[/quote][/QUOTE]
 
Not at all. what youve described is capitalism, not socialism

true, labor creates wealth.
Labor isnt the most productive part of society, any idiot can sit on an assembly line doing the same brainless task for 8 hrs a day. Or in the soviet union, in order to fill unemployment jobs the govt had jobs like digging and filling holes. Its how you organize your labor and put it to use that matters.
 
well our current taxation redistributes from the poor to the rich so [^

that was, amongst others what i meant with accumulation being destructive and not productive btw
 
Lizard men stealin from us be like
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Damn son, u really dont like having ur opinions challenged, straight for the low blow
NO UR DIM NOOBLET NUB
i dont mind having my opinions challenged. you're just bad at it.

Even the most ardent capitalist recognizes that labor does the production. You really should read a book, man. Wealth of Nations covers this and you're INSANE if you think Adam Smith is some kind of lefty.

You're argument should be that without capitalists, theres no concentration of labor and materials that produces at a rate that supports the current global population. We require capitalism to bring us to this point of productive capacity. Thats an actual argument. not "hurr durr rich people need low taxes to be productive" because god damn, thats some shit a fucking 11th grader would say
 
Responding with Youtube video after Youtube video and "Look.." for your statement and argument...really doesn't do you any favors.

If anything, it just makes it seem like you just are regurgitating clickbait nonesense.
 
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Responding with Youtube video after Youtube video and "Look.." for your statement and argument...really doesn't do you any favors.

If anything, it just makes it seem like you just are regurgitating clickbait nonesense.
Cool, move on then, i posted this to help the few who have the capacity to understand and wanna do their own research

THIS BITCH IS GONNA CRASH BUY GOLD
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i dont mind having my opinions challenged. you're just bad at it.

Even the most ardent capitalist recognizes that labor does the production. You really should read a book, man. Wealth of Nations covers this and you're INSANE if you think Adam Smith is some kind of lefty.

You're argument should be that without capitalists, theres no concentration of labor and materials that produces at a rate that supports the current global population. We require capitalism to bring us to this point of productive capacity. Thats an actual argument. not "hurr durr rich people need low taxes to be productive" because god damn, thats some shit a fucking 11th grader would say
Free the slaves 2020
 
People have always found gold valueable so they always will.

Thats how you get a bubble man.
 
i dont mind having my opinions challenged. you're just bad at it.

Even the most ardent capitalist recognizes that labor does the production. You really should read a book, man. Wealth of Nations covers this and you're INSANE if you think Adam Smith is some kind of lefty.

You're argument should be that without capitalists, theres no concentration of labor and materials that produces at a rate that supports the current global population. We require capitalism to bring us to this point of productive capacity. Thats an actual argument. not "hurr durr rich people need low taxes to be productive" because god damn, thats some shit a fucking 11th grader would say
Here's something I found interesting about different economic and political policies in various countries. In smaller westernized countries, such as those in Europe, or Japan, there are successful egalitarian education and economic systems (socialistic). In those countries, people care a lot about human rights, unions, and equal pay. However, in larger countries such as USA and China, the political systems are more right leaning (capitalistic, nationalistic). In the large, spread-out populations, people do not seem to have the capability to push for human rights as easily as smaller countries. Therefore, I think that because USA and China have much lower population density and larger land mass than European countries, their governments are able to take more advantage of their labor. Russia too follows a nationalistic strategy though they seem highly inefficient and rural.

It seems to me that the best economic system (or most practical, inevitable, long lasting, for the country) depends on the size and demographics of the country.

Change my mind!
 
Here's something I found interesting about different economic and political policies in various countries. In smaller westernized countries, such as those in Europe, or Japan, there are successful egalitarian education and economic systems (socialistic). In those countries, people care a lot about human rights, unions, and equal pay. However, in larger countries such as USA and China, the political systems are more right leaning (capitalistic, nationalistic). In the large, spread-out populations, people do not seem to have the capability to push for human rights as easily as smaller countries. Therefore, I think that because USA and China have much lower population density and larger land mass than European countries, their governments are able to take more advantage of their labor. Russia too follows a nationalistic strategy though they seem highly inefficient and rural.

It seems to me that the best economic system (or most practical, inevitable, long lasting, for the country) depends on the size and demographics of the country.

Change my mind!

The US is more sparesly populated than Belarus lol.
 
u would see that there is nothing conspiratorial about what he is saying, its all backed up by facts
1 thing all conspiracy nutt cases say: "This isn't a conspiracy, this is backed by FACTS."
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Here's something I found interesting about different economic and political policies in various countries. In smaller westernized countries, such as those in Europe, or Japan, there are successful egalitarian education and economic systems (socialistic). In those countries, people care a lot about human rights, unions, and equal pay. However, in larger countries such as USA and China, the political systems are more right leaning (capitalistic, nationalistic). In the large, spread-out populations, people do not seem to have the capability to push for human rights as easily as smaller countries. Therefore, I think that because USA and China have much lower population density and larger land mass than European countries, their governments are able to take more advantage of their labor. Russia too follows a nationalistic strategy though they seem highly inefficient and rural.

It seems to me that the best economic system (or most practical, inevitable, long lasting, for the country) depends on the size and demographics of the country.

Change my mind!

Unless you're quoting an economist, what you're saying right now is the equilivant of trying to explain a 5th dimension without any mathematical formulas or quoting any theoretical physicist. It's useless, and nothing but speculation that leads to bad outcomes.
[doublepost=1576678985][/doublepost]labour is power, immigration gives free labour so how about we stop being xenophobic and let immigrants in? I bet you this yapah dude will say no, hes so dumb that he's probably some weird white nationalist who thinks that because America was founded and created by whites that somehow that means that we need to keep it that way because it's somehow proof that Whites are the reason that America is succesful.
[doublepost=1576679100][/doublepost]Actually I'm curious, what would you think if in 100 years, the ethnic "default" or "majority" was changed from white to brown in America. Would that be okay? @Yapah
 
"But as it is, we have the wolf by the ear, and we can neither hold him, nor safely let him go. Justice is in one scale, and self-preservation in the other."
-Thomas Jefferson

"Who put the bomp in the bomp bah bomp bah bomp
Who put the ram in the rama lama ding dong"
-Barry Mann
 
1 thing all conspiracy nutt cases say: "This isn't a conspiracy, this is backed by FACTS."
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Unless you're quoting an economist, what you're saying right now is the equilivant of trying to explain a 5th dimension without any mathematical formulas or quoting any theoretical physicist. It's useless, and nothing but speculation that leads to bad outcomes.
[doublepost=1576678985][/doublepost]labour is power, immigration gives free labour so how about we stop being xenophobic and let immigrants in? I bet you this yapah dude will say no, hes so dumb that he's probably some weird white nationalist who thinks that because America was founded and created by whites that somehow that means that we need to keep it that way because it's somehow proof that Whites are the reason that America is succesful.
[doublepost=1576679100][/doublepost]Actually I'm curious, what would you think if in 100 years, the ethnic "default" or "majority" was changed from white to brown in America. Would that be okay? @Yapah
I think you’re ignorant, but not in a sly or charming way. If you think people do not believe in illegal immigration or immigration cooldowns because they are worried about losing a “white society” then you are hilarious. I’m sure some backwoods redneck feels that way, but the majority of people feel more strongly towards the laws set in place to keep people out of our country without due process.
Illegal immigration is dangerous, slowly but surely illegals are being granted freedoms that are allowing them to take part in elections and benefit from health care. The Democratic Party is feeding off of this and will continue to push this to allow these illegals to vote on the side willing to pardon them and grant them freedoms that legal Americans have. If this takes place there will no longer be a checks and balance system at all but a majority of 1 party.
I don’t much care which party is voted in as long as the candidate is appropriate for our needs as a country. But with only one side ruling it will no longer be a republic and will quickly turn into a democratic socialist country where our freedoms will slowly be peeled away from us. Is that where you would like to live?
 
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