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I'm familiar with this logic and philosophy ndit's the stupidest shit I've ever heard. The government takes people's rights away all the time bud. It's self evident bullshit.
Yeah sadly it does sometimes, and it shouldnt. That doesnt mean we should increase the amount of ‘rights’ (if u can call it that) that can be taken away from us
 
i disagree with everything you just said.

firstly success is subjective, everyones basis of being successful is different

also if luck is 50% whats the other 50%? im assuming hard work, everyone i know that put in hard work during education and further education is earning way above my nation's average salary, i'd deem that a success and im pretty sure if i bothered to ask everyone ive met if they put their current position down to luck there'd only be 1 or 2 who agree.

not bad for a group of working class kids if you ask me.

where's the system holding them back? is it because none of them are billionaires yet or what
Congrats on getting conq to fall into the trap of equating class struggle with personal/financial success.
 
If our government is very bad at doing things and we have a representative democracy, wouldn't that mean representative democracy does not in fact guarantee competence at the top?

Re-read what I said, a representative democracy doesnt GUARANTEE competence, it creates some level of competence. Its still waaaay better than the idiotic masses directly choosing who they want
 
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Yeah sadly it does sometimes, and it shouldnt. That doesnt mean we should increase the amount of ‘rights’ (if u can call it that) that can be taken away from us
Sort of a massive flaw in your logic, seeing as these rights are supposedly within the fabric of our existence. Get real, grow up, the only thing promised is death and taxes and even that could change if we don't go extinct first.
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Congrats on getting conq to fall into the trap of equating class struggle with personal/financial success.
This is such a bad medium for communication.

"Sent from my pixel" lol
 
Sort of a massive flaw in your logic, seeing as these rights are supposedly within the fabric of our existence. Get real, grow up, the only thing promised is death and taxes and even that could change if we don't go extinct first.
Yeah exactly, they’re in the fabric of our existence. The govt doesnt give us those rights, but it must respect those rights. The constitution’s amendments are for the govt to follow, the constitution is meant to chain down the govt (which is why this current idea of ‘interpreting’ the constitution is really dangerous)

let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the constitution
-thomas jefferson
 
Yeah exactly, they’re in the fabric of our existence. The govt doesnt give us those rights, but it must respect those rights. The constitution’s amendments are for the govt to follow, the constitution is meant to chain down the govt (which is why this current idea of ‘interpreting’ the constitution is really dangerous)

let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the constitution
-thomas jefferson
There is literally zero evidence for this empirical or otherwise. Not only that but it is also self evident that this philosophy has been one of the corner stones of a system of colonialism, imperialism, genocide, and oppression. It's clear that this line of thought does nothing but limit and degrade our conception of human life as well as it's sanctity.

Someone should tell Jefferson these chains have gotten a bit loose
 
That is your response? Really? Lol, you can't even recognize or defend the shortcomings of your own ideology.
No because you instantly devolved into GENOCIDAL, IMPERIALIST, Ect. You cant argue with a leftie, u just dismissed what I said because everything Im representing is all crimes against humanity according to u. Yall think ur holier than thou, fuck off

Edit: feeling sorry/empathy for someone doesnt make u a good person
 
No because you instantly devolved into GENOCIDAL, IMPERIALIST, Ect. You cant argue with a leftie, u just dismissed what I said because everything Im representing is all crimes against humanity according to u. Yall think ur holier than thou, fuck off
Forgive me for trying to have a conversation of substance and caring about the 20m+ estimated dead people since WW2 caused by capitalism. Your lack of attention to the core of these issues we're facing and discussing is disturbing.
 
Forgive me for trying to have a conversation of substance and caring about the 20m+ estimated dead people since WW2 caused by capitalism. Your lack of attention to the core of these issues we're discussing is disappointing.
You mean the 100m+ dead from socialism?
 
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