US 39 - Most Active Battlegroup

[Thorgall]

I pick and choose based upon what I observe. I see twinks in Nightfall doubting their own skill, and transfers to there doing the same. Please remember, I'm not the one who originated these assertions. I'm just reading what others (primary sources) write and synthesizing it.



On the other hand, I also have read that there is much activity in battlegrounds there, both for pug's and 10v10's. I'm more than willing to grant that it's probably the most active in those categories.



However, if you'd be so kind as to return to the first page, the poll question was rather vague. It merely mentions "activity", which could refer to any number of things. I view arena as being the most important aspect of PvP, and based on my observations, Cyclone is #1 for arena activity. Since I was forced to interpret my own meaning for the word activity, I did so, and voted for Cyclone.

There are several Cyclone players on the wow forums that have had bad things to say about Cyclone. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.



I honestly wouldn't form an opinion unless I played on Cyclone and vice versa.

 

[Kiwid]

However, if you'd be so kind as to return to the first page, the poll question was rather vague. It merely mentions "activity", which could refer to any number of things. I view arena as being the most important aspect of PvP, and based on my observations, Cyclone is #1 for arena activity. Since I was forced to interpret my own meaning for the word activity, I did so, and voted for Cyclone.

No need to turn to the first page to watch you back peddle on the forums.



You accept the fact that Nightfall is the most active Battle Group.



You do not accept the fact that we do arenas.



The most populated Battle Group will be the most active in both Arenas and Battle Grounds, which we are. You are confusing activity with competitiveness. It's alright though. I understand that it is difficult to come up with 25 bucks to transfer to Nightfall, so you instead have convinced yourself that Cyclone "is the most active." It's sad really. When you come to terms with the facts, feel free to pick a guild in Nightfall to transfer to, if you ever come up with that hard to obtain 25 bucks.

 

[Dorigon]

No need to turn to the first page to watch you back peddle on the forums.



You accept the fact that Nightfall is the most active Battle Group.



You do not accept the fact that we do arenas.



The most populated Battle Group will be the most active in both Arenas and Battle Grounds, which we are. You are confusing activity with competitiveness. It's alright though. I understand that it is difficult to come up with 25 bucks to transfer to Nightfall, so you instead have convinced yourself that Cyclone "is the most active." It's sad really. When you come to terms with the facts, feel free to pick a guild in Nightfall to transfer to, if you ever come up with that hard to obtain 25 bucks.

As already stated, I accept that Nightfall probably has the most battleground activity. As for arena, no, I've actually seen Nightfall folks make remarks to the contrary, and during my trolling visits to its forums, have never seen mention of arena.



Nightfall activity is just lacking when it comes to arena.



I do hope that you will be content with your miasma of mediocrity.

 

[Dorigon]

There are several Cyclone players on the wow forums that have had bad things to say about Cyclone. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.



I honestly wouldn't form an opinion unless I played on Cyclone and vice versa.

Oh, there's definitely bad things to be said about it. The PuG BG situation is a little lacking right now. It isn't a golden paradise, but then again, every battlegroup has its faults.

 

[Kiwid]

As already stated, I accept that Nightfall probably has the most battleground activity. As for arena, no, I've actually seen Nightfall folks make remarks to the contrary, and during my trolling visits to its forums, have never seen mention of arena.



Nightfall activity is just lacking when it comes to arena.



I do hope that you will be content with your miasma of mediocrity.

Well, since you know for a fact that Cyclone has more arenas then Nightfall.



Feel free to tell me how many arena's are going at any given point in time.



2's?



3's?



5's?



Oh, what's that? There is no way of telling how many arenas are going? Interesting. How then do you know for a fact that Cyclone has more activity on arenas? Oh I get it. You heard it on the forums. Since you heard it on the forums it must be true, amirite?

 

[shamaladin]

Everyone, I'd like you to meed Kiwid. Please disregard anything he says as its 1.) not valid 2.) just an attempt to troll.



Nightfall does have the most activity, true. I've talk to several people and it's definitely quantity over quality over there. Their entire BG even dodged a ptr challenged issued by Be My Fughley (top 39 guild on Stormstrike). Point being wait till 3.2 hits before you flock to some crappy bg that has an overabundance of noskill twinks. This is not an insult to the BG, just the facts as i've seen/been told.



-Inkubi



p.s. kiwid, don't bother trolling this as I really check these forums on a weekly basis at best.

 

[Dorigon]

Simply put, yes, given my observations.

 

[Kiwid]

Everyone, I'd like you to meed Kiwid. Please disregard anything he says as its 1.) not valid 2.) just an attempt to troll.



Nightfall does have the most activity, true. I've talk to several people and it's definitely quantity over quality over there. Their entire BG even dodged a ptr challenged issued by Be My Fughley (top 39 guild on Stormstrike). Point being wait till 3.2 hits before you flock to some crappy bg that has an overabundance of noskill twinks. This is not an insult to the BG, just the facts as i've seen/been told.



-Inkubi



p.s. kiwid, don't bother trolling this as I really check these forums on a weekly basis at best.

The people at Stormstrike are still pretty upset for losing so many people to our BG.



I can't blame them. Their ship is sinking and everyone is jumping into the life boats.

 

[Kiwid]

Simply put, yes, given my observations.

You failed to provide evidence that Cyclone does more arenas then us.

 

[Castrophy]

You failed to provide evidence that Cyclone does more arenas then us.

Oh Kiwid you haven't heard? We don't use any evidence we come to the forums and say our Battlegroup is the best because we dun wnt pplz to trnsfr off lol.

 

[Dorigon]

You failed to provide evidence that Cyclone does more arenas then us.

Cyclone forums are evidence enough.



edit: Taking a break from this exchange. Too busy doing 3v3's.

 

[Kiwid]

Cyclone forums are evidence enough.



edit: Taking a break from this exchange. Too busy doing 3v3's.

"Exchange" would imply that I am getting something out of this.





Which is not true.



Did you hear it on the forums that I am getting something out of this?



Maybe someone Xferred to Nightfall for a day and told you that I was getting something out of this. It must be true!

 

[Dorigon]

You're a menace.

 

[Hargrove]

This is completely retarded.



Thanks to random ban posting sprees (or a glitch, I'm not really sure), I can't respond to more of the nonsense on our forums, but having wandered over here...



I am so glad you took 2 or 3 posts by Mr. and Mrs. Nightfall as irrefutable evidence Nightfall has sub-par skill.



Are you the kind of person who walks up to a customer service desk and demands that the clerk change Wal-Mart's return policy? I mean if he's wearing the blue he must be an authority...



Cyclone and Nightfall are trolling each other. The only fact here is that Nightfall is more active. Most of the people complaining about Nightfall skill played in one (or a handful) of games. It is a joke for anyone to judge any battlegroup without playing there for more than one premade against the newest guild in the BG.

 

[Powerglove]

This is completely retarded.



Thanks to random ban posting sprees (or a glitch, I'm not really sure), I can't respond to more of the nonsense on our forums, but having wandered over here...



I am so glad you took 2 or 3 posts by Mr. and Mrs. Nightfall as irrefutable evidence Nightfall has sub-par skill.



Are you the kind of person who walks up to a customer service desk and demands that the clerk change Wal-Mart's return policy? I mean if he's wearing the blue he must be an authority...



Cyclone and Nightfall are trolling each other. The only fact here is that Nightfall is more active. Most of the people complaining about Nightfall skill played in one (or a handful) of games. It is a joke for anyone to judge any battlegroup without playing there for more than one premade against the newest guild in the BG.

k



lets organize some ptr arenas

 

[Dorigon]

This is completely retarded.



Thanks to random ban posting sprees (or a glitch, I'm not really sure), I can't respond to more of the nonsense on our forums, but having wandered over here...



I am so glad you took 2 or 3 posts by Mr. and Mrs. Nightfall as irrefutable evidence Nightfall has sub-par skill.

Between at least four posters, and the fact that no big names have come out of Nightfall, it's not quite irrefutable evidence but is pretty solid.

Are you the kind of person who walks up to a customer service desk and demands that the clerk change Wal-Mart's return policy? I mean if he's wearing the blue he must be an authority...

This isn't a very valid comparison. A better one would be to ask a clerk what sort of products people generally purchase. I feel that the clerk is better qualified to answer such a question than some lofty CEO who is out of touch.

Cyclone and Nightfall are trolling each other. The only fact here is that Nightfall is more active. Most of the people complaining about Nightfall skill played in one (or a handful) of games. It is a joke for anyone to judge any battlegroup without playing there for more than one premade against the newest guild in the BG.

I will grant that Nightfall is more active in BG activity, but that has nothing to do with arenas, which many people prefer. And as for newest guild, iyou really shouldn't imply that they'd automatically be the worst, as that is not always the case. When <Cyclone> first went to Bloodlust BG, we were the undisputed best.

 

[Kiwid]

I will grant that Nightfall is more active in BG activity, but that has nothing to do with arenas, which many people prefer. And as for newest guild, iyou really shouldn't imply that they'd automatically be the worst, as that is not always the case. When <Cyclone> first went to Bloodlust BG, we were the undisputed best.

Just to clarify, when you say BG you mean Battle Group or Battle Ground?



While both are true for Nightfall, the latter of the two implys there is a more active Battle Group then Nightfall. Which is not true. Even though, you Cyclonians feel the need to vote for Cyclone as the most active, while knowing you are not the most active.





You still have yet to prove Cyclone is more active in arenas then Nightfall.





And for your last statement. Well, that brings me back to my point on the Nightfall forums. You Cyclonians are so focused on trying to figrue out who the "best" is, that you are destroying your community.



Cyclone was for a long time the greatest 39 BG there was. As you can see, and I suspect the douchebaggery-Epeen-flexing, you guys are losing people left and right. You are down to two guilds that can even field 10's. Last I checked out your Battle Group, you guys were doing 15v15's! I thought that was awsome. Honestly, I was jealous and wanted Nightfall to be able to do 15v15's on a regular basis.



Now look at you. It's sad really. The only thing that is left is the same old douche bags trying to flex their Epeen and dwindling down to an exclusive arena Battle Group.



Cyclone can keep their nitch. Most of the veterans are on Cyclone. Nightfall on the other hand has no where to go but up. With new transfers and rerolls daily, more competition, more BG's, more of a community, our skill will soon be going up as well.

 

[Kiwid]

This is completely retarded.



Thanks to random ban posting sprees (or a glitch, I'm not really sure), I can't respond to more of the nonsense on our forums, but having wandered over here...



I am so glad you took 2 or 3 posts by Mr. and Mrs. Nightfall as irrefutable evidence Nightfall has sub-par skill.



Are you the kind of person who walks up to a customer service desk and demands that the clerk change Wal-Mart's return policy? I mean if he's wearing the blue he must be an authority...



Cyclone and Nightfall are trolling each other. The only fact here is that Nightfall is more active. Most of the people complaining about Nightfall skill played in one (or a handful) of games. It is a joke for anyone to judge any battlegroup without playing there for more than one premade against the newest guild in the BG.

Hargrove, if you are talking about the bug that says, "This account is banned." up at the top right of your screen while trying to post. That is just a bug and you need to hit the back button, then repost.



If you are banned, it will be in the middle of your screen telling you what you are banned for and what actions, if any, you can take to become unbanned.

 

[Dorigon]

Just to clarify, when you say BG you mean Battle Group or Battle Ground?

I meant battleground the first time and battlegroup the second time. Figured it would be obvious from context clues, but eh, whatev.

While both are true for Nightfall, the latter of the two implies there is a more active Battle Group then Nightfall. Which is not true. Even though, you Cyclonians feel the need to vote for Cyclone as the most active, while knowing you are not the most active.

I'd have been more than willing to vote for Nightfall if the poll specified battleground activity.

You still have yet to prove Cyclone is more active in arenas then Nightfall.

Between Cyclone being the spot of choice for arena die-hards, and almost no mention of arenas on Nightfall forums, I'm not inclined to think otherwise. You're free to do so if you so wish.

And for your last statement. Well, that brings me back to my point on the Nightfall forums. You Cyclonians are so focused on trying to figrue out who the "best" is, that you are destroying your community.

I invite you to prove your above statement by linking threads that try to figure out who the best is. I think Nightfall actually is more focused on trying to figure out who the best is. Your "best of" thread is getting a lot more replies than ours do these days. We moved past the need for those back in 07.

Cyclone was for a long time the greatest 39 BG there was. As you can see, and I suspect the douchebaggery-Epeen-flexing, you guys are losing people left and right. You are down to two guilds that can even field 10's. Last I checked out your Battle Group, you guys were doing 15v15's! I thought that was awesome. Honestly, I was jealous and wanted Nightfall to be able to do 15v15's on a regular basis.

While it is true that Cyclone 39s have always had a strong tradition, I think you're overly dramatizing this. Many Bloodlusters or Reckoningians{?) would not agree, and those of other battlegroups as well, just for the sake of argument. Anyway, I invite you to prove the douchebagger-Epeen-flexing that you mention by linking threads.

Now look at you. It's sad really. The only thing that is left is the same old douche bags trying to flex their Epeen and dwindling down to an exclusive arena Battle Group.

It's always been cyclical in Cyclone. Get up to about 6-7 premading guilds, then people quit and it goes down, new ones emerge, goes back up, etc. So in other words, just like any other battlegroup.

Cyclone can keep their niche. Most of the veterans are on Cyclone. Nightfall on the other hand has no where to go but up. With new transfers and rerolls daily, more competition, more BG's, more of a community, our skill will soon be going up as well.

And I wish Nightfall luck in its upward movement and sustenance of that movement. However, I do ask that you give irrefutable proof of more of a community. Also, your skill level going up yet has to be seen. Time will tell on that.

 

[Kiwid]

I meant battleground the first time and battlegroup the second time. Figured it would be obvious from context clues, but eh, whatev.

That is what I thought you meant, just making sure. However, I already stated my argument why I was making sure.

I'd have been more than willing to vote for Nightfall if the poll specified battleground activity.

So you assume it was specified arena activity? /facepalm

Between Cyclone being the spot of choice for arena die-hards, and almost no mention of arenas on Nightfall forums, I'm not inclined to think otherwise. You're free to do so if you so wish.

Really, it's kinda hard to get a feel of Nightfall's arena activity while trying to read through all the Cyclone and Stormstrike trolling threads, and posts within our threads.

I invite you to prove your above statement by linking threads that try to figure out who the best is. I think Nightfall actually is more focused on trying to figure out who the best is. Your "best of" thread is getting a lot more replies than ours do these days. We moved past the need for those back in 07.

I don't need to link a thread to support this. If your statement about Bloodlust were true, that would be plenty of evidence to prove what Cyclone is about, and the number of guilds able to field 10 mans or even 15 mans proves Cyclone is going down hill in terms of population.

While it is true that Cyclone 39s have always had a strong tradition, I think you're overly dramatizing this. Many Bloodlusters or Reckoningians{?) would not agree, and those of other battlegroups as well, just for the sake of argument. Anyway, I invite you to prove the douchebagger-Epeen-flexing that you mention by linking threads.

Shall I just link the Nightfall forums? Feel free to look at what Cyclonians are doing there. They came over to troll us while tossing out the obligatory "PTR CHALLENGE!?!?!?" Sorry, but that has douche bag written all over it.

It's always been cyclical in Cyclone. Get up to about 6-7 premading guilds, then people quit and it goes down, new ones emerge, goes back up, etc. So in other words, just like any other battlegroup.

You guys have taken a pretty hard fall this last go around, haven't you? Enjoy your slow climb back up.

And I wish Nightfall luck in its upward movement and sustenance of that movement. However, I do ask that you give irrefutable proof of more of a community. Also, your skill level going up yet has to be seen. Time will tell on that.

You are asking me to prove something you have already acknowledged?



Seriously, this is just going in circles now.



As for the skill part. Before you have heard of us, our skill level was not even on the scale of 0-10, it was null. Now you have heard of us, and a few of us are playing on the PTR tonight. Therefor, our skill level has gone from null to whatever the outcome of the PTR fights are going to be. Based on this silly scale of skill level, we are going up just by being known. Did I mention how stupid this 0-10 skill scale is? Well, it is stupid and has little to no basis of how well a battle group is.