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I don't know who you are, I don't think I've ever played you before, and that makes your opinion irrelevant.
This has got to be one of the most delusional egotistical things I've seen in awhile. As a guild that stays so active you're bound to be seen by people who you don't recognize. You recognize me though :)

You insult one of my guild members. You insult one of the hardest efcs I consistently face. You think anyone here is attacking you by calling you bad.

Your guild is quickly becoming as laughabe as duo and HC. You roll the most OP classes possible, sit in mid/gy all bg then brag about screenshots. You throw tamtrums when people call you out and then refuse to heal/help them. Why? Because you don't care about winning or losing, you just care about topping the charts by farming random 12 year olds trying out the game for the first time.

I wish I could get on to 10v10 you but I can't atm and I don't honestly think a 10 min 3-0 would change anything. If playing under your gtag doesn't already embarrass people then an asskicking won't.

"You" in this msg was meant solely at your guild not you directly, although I don't have a very high opinion on you either. While talking about your guild I do not lump every single person together, I simply am generalizing the average guild member.

Don't run your mouth if you can't back it up. Not only are your arguments on this forum laughable but your gameplay is as well.

Sincerely, an alliance player who has grown tired of losing due to your alliance premades
 
Swallower.

He's better than me tho so i usually die
 
Pinkberry is a name I like to jam up and caribe. I mean the only KoS that I really hold dearly is brumble and brumbles army from wayyyy back in the day.
 
This has got to be one of the most delusional egotistical things I've seen in awhile. As a guild that stays so active you're bound to be seen by people who you don't recognize. You recognize me though :)

You insult one of my guild members. You insult one of the hardest efcs I consistently face. You think anyone here is attacking you by calling you bad.

Your guild is quickly becoming as laughabe as duo and HC. You roll the most OP classes possible, sit in mid/gy all bg then brag about screenshots. You throw tamtrums when people call you out and then refuse to heal/help them. Why? Because you don't care about winning or losing, you just care about topping the charts by farming random 12 year olds trying out the game for the first time.

I wish I could get on to 10v10 you but I can't atm and I don't honestly think a 10 min 3-0 would change anything. If playing under your gtag doesn't already embarrass people then an asskicking won't.

"You" in this msg was meant solely at your guild not you directly, although I don't have a very high opinion on you either. While talking about your guild I do not lump every single person together, I simply am generalizing the average guild member.

Don't run your mouth if you can't back it up. Not only are your arguments on this forum laughable but your gameplay is as well.

Sincerely, an alliance player who has grown tired of losing due to your alliance premades

I got onto this thread specifically to refute the claims of Aproosz, who to me was an anonymous poster who called the guild bad for seemingly no reason. I did not initiate this conversation, I did not pretend to be some god of WoW, and I certainly will admit sometimes I am wrong. However, I cannot talk to people who cannot hear what I'm saying.

I started off twinking as a 70, and the only reason I came to this bracket was because my bracket was brutally murdered by Blizzard. I like playing good players, but I also enjoy farming. Can you not enjoy both?

I remember most of the players I queue with, I try to remember the good and the bad, it's a habit. I've always enjoyed getting to know the other active players and enjoyed our battlefield rivalries. If I don't remember you, it's probably because you and I haven't played very many games with or against one another, and I trust my memory for most things. If I can't remember someone, why should I care about their opinion? What is the relevance of the opinion of someone who has played with my so little that I can't recall who they are? Such a person would only have seen a few of the many games I've played. It's not that I don't care about them in any way/shape/form, I just don't see how listening to their critique would be constructive.

I don't know which of your guild members I insulted. I don't see why it's your battle. I am not saying Bruce isn't good at carrying the flag as a druid. I just can't respect a druid FC in the way many can't respect a survival hunter or a discipline priest, it's too easy.

I am defending my guild as a whole because I have worked hard to get some really good members to join and gear, and I know that many of the players are not bad. I also specifically said that I didn't post the screenshot for bragging rights, just transparency. Wilferal is the only one bragging through screenshots as far as I can tell.

I have repeatedly said I don't care if you call me bad, by all means go ahead. I don't see it as an attack, it's an opinion. However, randomly talking shit about my guild is an attack. I care about people calling the guild bad based on very little interaction and personal vendettas against certain players in the guild or people who play a certain class. I'm not going to ban survival hunters from my guild just because people think they're unfair, the games always been unbalanced and it's not my place to force anyone to play a certain class or specialization.

You're sitting here telling me my gameplay is laughable, my 10v10 team would get crushed, and that I need to put my money where my mouth is but are unwilling to even attempt to schedule one?

TL;DR I am doing everything I can to get you to understand that your interaction with the guild is with only a few players, not the guild itself, and I don't understand why the attacks have to be against the guild as a whole when obviously it's just a few players you're upset with.
 
I got onto this thread specifically to refute the claims of Aproosz, who to me was an anonymous poster who called the guild bad for seemingly no reason. I did not initiate this conversation, I did not pretend to be some god of WoW, and I certainly will admit sometimes I am wrong. However, I cannot talk to people who cannot hear what I'm saying.

I started off twinking as a 70, and the only reason I came to this bracket was because my bracket was brutally murdered by Blizzard. I like playing good players, but I also enjoy farming. Can you not enjoy both?

I remember most of the players I queue with, I try to remember the good and the bad, it's a habit. I've always enjoyed getting to know the other active players and enjoyed our battlefield rivalries. If I don't remember you, it's probably because you and I haven't played very many games with or against one another, and I trust my memory for most things. If I can't remember someone, why should I care about their opinion? What is the relevance of the opinion of someone who has played with my so little that I can't recall who they are? Such a person would only have seen a few of the many games I've played. It's not that I don't care about them in any way/shape/form, I just don't see how listening to their critique would be constructive.

I don't know which of your guild members I insulted. I don't see why it's your battle. I am not saying Bruce isn't good at carrying the flag as a druid. I just can't respect a druid FC in the way many can't respect a survival hunter or a discipline priest, it's too easy.

I am defending my guild as a whole because I have worked hard to get some really good members to join and gear, and I know that many of the players are not bad. I also specifically said that I didn't post the screenshot for bragging rights, just transparency. Wilferal is the only one bragging through screenshots as far as I can tell.

I have repeatedly said I don't care if you call me bad, by all means go ahead. I don't see it as an attack, it's an opinion. However, randomly talking shit about my guild is an attack. I care about people calling the guild bad based on very little interaction and personal vendettas against certain players in the guild or people who play a certain class. I'm not going to ban survival hunters from my guild just because people think they're unfair, the games always been unbalanced and it's not my place to force anyone to play a certain class or specialization.

You're sitting here telling me my gameplay is laughable, my 10v10 team would get crushed, and that I need to put my money where my mouth is but are unwilling to even attempt to schedule one?

TL;DR I am doing everything I can to get you to understand that your interaction with the guild is with only a few players, not the guild itself, and I don't understand why the attacks have to be against the guild as a whole when obviously it's just a few players you're upset with.
arent ppl with the gtag <ftp bullies> a representation of the guild? Like they're in the guild you make no sense.

Like I just went against some shitter surv from ur guild. Even though it wasn't your entire fotm 5 man I think he was a good representation of you guys
 
arent ppl with the gtag <ftp bullies> a representation of the guild? Like they're in the guild you make no sense.

Like I just went against some shitter surv from ur guild. Even though it wasn't your entire fotm 5 man I think he was a good representation of you guys

Yeah, they're a representation of the guild, but they are not the overall guild themselves. I wouldn't say I hate America just because I dislike the person who works at the DMV.
 
got onto this thread specifically to refute the claims of Aproosz, who to me was an anonymous poster who called the guild bad for seemingly no reason. I did not initiate this conversation, I did not pretend to be some god of WoW, and I certainly will admit sometimes I am wrong. However, I cannot talk to people who cannot hear what I'm saying.

As you can see I'm not the only one who thinks that about your guild, but well nvm I understand your arguments about defend your guild but I think this isn't the way to do it, do it in the bgs, do it with less SV in your premades, do it helping your team Although they are losing, How many more people have to insult you to understand?
I had a similar situation Ike yours but in different context, many ppl said things like "Quel'Thalas bad" "Fuckings Jaja's" "Many ppl of QT here, we lose" but we didn't insult to anyone for that, me and my guild tried to always do our best to change the thinking about our realm, we saw a change of that or at least we like to think that.
That is my advice for you, take it or leave it in the end your reputation is the only one damaged here
 
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I've outlined my perspective as concisely and eloquently as I believe myself capable of doing. If you want to war-game, I'll be available in-game or through the inbox here. Otherwise, see you on the battlefield :)
 
As you can see I'm not the only one who thinks that about your guild, but well nvm I understand your arguments about defend your guild but I think this isn't the way to do it, do it in the bgs, do it with less SV in your premades, do it helping your team Although they are losing, How many more people have to insult you to understand?
I had a situation similar like yours but in different context, many ppl said things like "Quel'Thalas bad" "Fuckings Jaja's" "Many ppl of QT here, we lose" but we didn't insult to anyone for that, me and my guild tried to always do our best to change the thinking about our realm, we saw a change of that or at least we like to think that.
That is my advice for you, take it or leave it in the end your reputation is the only one damaged here

While I respect your opinion, I don't think we've ever played a game together on alliance. While these players indicate that I am massively hated and people say we suck, I never see that sort of thing in alliance battlegrounds except by players I have an existing problem with. I regularly do well in battlegrounds, it's not an ego thing, you yourself called me a "[good]". I help my team when it is losing, and try my best to rally my teammates when they're eager for blood and don't want to play the objective.

I hate to see the same toxic mentality in twinking brackets. Instead of players developing respect for good players they face, it often regresses into hatred born of the competitive drive of PvP. Instead of saying "hey, I like killing ftp bullies" you said something more like "those kids suck" and then a bunch of horde who never play with us agreed as well as a few random alliance players who probably don't like me to begin with. Sampling the xpoff forums for players with accurate, reliable knowledge is probably the worst idea I can think of (screenshots usually work tho). Why not make an alliance character and play a few matches with us? I think your perspective would shift.

In reference to your comment about my reputation, the only people whose respect I would care for anyway will read these threads and think, "Wow, he really tried to have a civil conversation with a constructive focus while staying mature." Alas, I was not perfect in my endeavors to explain myself and I obviously got angry a few times, and to those readers, I apologize.
 
You realize a scoreboard with you running four survival hunters is not something to flaunt, right?

Edit: Doesn't get much more cockier than this:


You guys are so butthurt about druid fcers to the point of dismissing a legitmately good druid fcer by saying the following:

Get real, because huntard is hard hur dur.

As for <f2p bullies>.

Real talk.

Bro, no one takes your guild even remotely seriously. Your guild is the new joke guild of the bracket.

Everyone talks about you guys but it's about how bad you are and how you only roll fotm garbage.

When I saw Visual was in your guild, I felt embarrassed for him.

You complained about druids then posted a screenshot with you (a disc priest) and four survival hunters. You said you don't queue specifically with them but at the same-time you obviously thought that screenshot was noteworthy, why, I haven't a clue.

I'm glad you guys think you're good because no one else does.

Haters gonna hate though, amirite, fam?
Dude you just got roasted by Rhae. How's it feel to hit rock bottom? Lmfao
 
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