TI Veteran / MVP / Addict Usergroups -- Community Input Needed

[EZYTIGR 2.0]

If someone continues giving helpful info, our they write guides that makes it in the proper section not user submitted section, make them a MVP. MVP's seemd fine, the problem was putting donators in the mix. MVP title lost all meaning once they got in.

 

[Aelobin]

Veteran -- 4 years or longer

I'm not too bothered about the titles/usergroups myself, but I am intrigued about how many people currently meet that criteria? 4 years is quite a long time if you think WoW has only been around for 7 years

 

[Painaid]

Yeah, 4 years is a bit steep; not even the original creator of the site, Drayner, is at 4 years yet. And rewards for post counts are always a slippery slope that invites inflationary posting just for epeen purposes. This forum has seen this problem many times over the years. I think the simple fact that post counts are even shown is a reward enough to promote activity and involvement.

Just my .02 - But nice work on the site revamp. Can only imagine how much of a pain it is transferring it back to vBulletin. Though I think this format is much better when it's all said and done.

 

[Drayner]

But nice work on the site revamp. Can only imagine how much of a pain it is transferring it back to vBulletin. Though I think this format is much better when it's all said and done.

I much prefer vBulletin to IPB myself.

Ps. I don't want MVP, Addict, Veteran, or anything. I want to have a custom title that reads... "Painaid #1".

 

[Myrm]

Alright. Here are my final decisions after some careful thought about the input that you all have given here.

1) 'TI Addict' rank will NOT be created. I am in agreement with everyone on this thread that stated that it will just give trolls and the like an opportunity to obtain the rank through abuse.
2) 'TI Veteran' rank will be created and will require 3 years registration AND 250 posts to become a part of it. I am of the opinion that if you have not contributed 250+ posts in 3 years, you have not really been active in the community and helping to drive discussions.
3) 'TI MVP' rank will be based on the nomination system that I am creating. It should take me about a week or so to create the mod. The reason it will take so long is that the skin design is still being worked and my time is split between both projects.

More details about the 'TI MVP' addon will be coming as soon as I get a full grasp on the concept.

Another thing that I am currently trying to figure out how to do is make it so that if the user has multiple different usergroups (I.E. they are a Donor + Veteran + MVP), then the user will be able to select which group they want their username to be displayed under. I am sure an addon has already been created for this. It is just a matter of finding it.

Thanks again for all of your input!

- Shane

 

[Mrcer]

Well, it seems that I cannot make a good decision about these usergroups as I have been told by countless individuals, so I will let you guys decide how you want it done.

I have dropped everyone from the TI Veteran group for the time being until this is all sorted out.

Keep this thread on point. I am asking for your ideas and CONSTRUCTIVE criticisms about why or why not the group would work and how it would work.

I look forward to reading your suggestions.

- Shane

As I recall, MVP in World of Warcraft Armory forums are given to individuals who are constantly making positive and helpful posts to players on countless occasions. While still being just your everyday friendly neighborhood WoW-Player, they continue to contribute to the community on the forums. Twinkinfo also started doing this about 1-2 years ago. About half a year ago(I believe), they added something new to twinkinfo; they needed more guides for each bracket for each class. So anyone individual who takes the time to make a good guide for a class within a bracket(IE: 10s, 19s, F2Ps, 24s, 29s, 39s, etc) are given MVP. This seemed fair at the time(IMO) but than random players who are brand new to twinkinfo started making random guides and were given MVP with not even 100 point count.


In my person opinion, if you want to bring back MVP; then only give it to a person who fits the title: "Most valuable poster". Someone who has been with the community for quite some time, has a high post count, and makes countless acts of contribution to twinkinfo forums. And this person should be given MVP by agreement of everyone who is a Mod/Administrator, not by a single person's decision. As far as TI Veteran, I do not believe it should be there. Keep the ranking system as it is:

Post counts:

5,000+ - Immortal Twink
2,000+ - Master Twink
1,000+ - Uber Twink
500+ - Senior Twink
100+ - Twink
30+ - Semi Twink
Below 30 - PuG

TI Veteran is an unneeded add to the Twinkinfo Forums. If you ask me, remove both TI Veteran and MVP; but reestablish MVP and have all the mods/administrators come to a complete agreement as to who they feel should be given MVP. As the name states, it should be given to people who are a "Most Valuable Poster". If Blizzard started handing out MVPs to anyone who gave a good guide on their Forums, everyone would be walking around with MVPs in their name(which is what they tried to keep from happening, as should twinkinfo).


Just my two cents.

 

[Eliot]

When and if MVP is reintroduced it will only be given to people who CONSISTENTLY go above and beyond to help the community, not for making a single guide. I like the TI veteran group as it is a nice reward for those who have been loyal for a long time. Also the regular ranks are still in place.

 

[Falkor]

I've been immortal so long meow, make a new high title plix

 

[Myrm]

I've been immortal so long meow, make a new high title plix

There is one at 7500 -- Twink Info Legend.

 

[Kipale]

TI addict hmm

ohwait im not anymore

 

[Falkor]

There is one at 7500 -- Twink Info Legend.

Legit

 

[Inkobah]

That is the thing. The MVP rank was handed out by one individual -- Daman. The rank was not administered by anyone else. So, it was based on his judgement alone as to who deserved what. I think that that way of doing things is broken.

Also, trying to get all of the staff to agree on whether or not the person should be promoted because of a guide or set of guides would require the staff to speak about each guide submitter and then look through the post for its qualitative integrity.

This is incorrect...Daman had no part in it. The MVP rank was created by me to assign to people who consistently added great content to the site and were generally helpful to the community. It was always a whole staff effort to nominate quality posters (though some participated more than others). It may have appeared as broken to some but that's only because who deserved it and who didn't was a very subjective thing. From my standpoint as the former Admin, it worked quite well...but can see how other people with differing opinions would think otherwise.

To me the MVP rank was a rank that helped me and many others know whether the person spouting off information was a generally trustworthy source of information or not, and that they were proven as someone that wanted to help others in the community. Sure we couldn't control MVP posts and certainly we had some minor issues from time to time, but again from my standpoint the system worked rather well.

-Ink

P.S. Also if you're going to give out ranks solely on post count you should make sure they're accurate. I'm at least 700 posts short of my actual post count. It doesn't matter to me but will certainly matter to some others around here.

 

[Eliot]

This is incorrect...Daman had no part in it. The MVP rank was created by me to assign to people who consistently added great content to the site and were generally helpful to the community. It was always a whole staff effort to nominate quality posters (though some participated more than others). It may have appeared as broken to some but that's only because who deserved it and who didn't was a very subjective thing. From my standpoint as the former Admin, it worked quite well...but can see how other people with differing opinions would think otherwise.

To me the MVP rank was a rank that helped me and many others know whether the person spouting off information was a generally trustworthy source of information or not, and that they were proven as someone that wanted to help others in the community. Sure we couldn't control MVP posts and certainly we had some minor issues from time to time, but again from my standpoint the system worked rather well.

-Ink

P.S. Also if you're going to give out ranks solely on post count you should make sure they're accurate. I'm at least 700 posts short of my actual post count. It doesn't matter to me but will certainly matter to some others around here.

I'm sorry but that's just not entirely true. A very high amount of the MVP's were not anywhere close to being "MVP's" They didn't contribute positively and that rank as it appears to most of the current staff didn't reward the people who were true MVP's and instead rewarded individuals who did as little as write one guide. The new system will only reward those who consistently post in a productive and helpful manner.

 

[Inkobah]

I'm sorry but that's just not entirely true. A very high amount of the MVP's were not anywhere close to being "MVP's" They didn't contribute positively and that rank as it appears to most of the current staff didn't reward the people who were true MVP's and instead rewarded individuals who did as little as write one guide. The new system will only reward those who consistently post in a productive and helpful manner.

If you want to get technical the user group was originally donors (but we had only like 3 or 4) that I re-did into the MVP user group (and GF'ed those very few donors into MVPs). So yes you're right that I left that part out, but everything else is accurate. You make it sound like I'm lying when you weren't even part of the process. I realize you're a new mod here now Eliot but you don't have to be a douche to the former Admin.

Also if you want to be technical, it was Kore who recommended nearly all of the people who "did as little as write one guide". And if I remember right, Kore is the Admin here now (meaning he's on the current staff).

People that have written quality guides (or 1 guide for that matter) should get some recognition because yes, they're a good source of information as I stated before. Under the new system there's a ton of people that have done a lot for this site and community that have 0 distinction (of course I'm just 1 of many - but it's not about me...I'm rarely around anymore). I'm just advocating a way to designate certain people that are generally good sources of information and are helpful. But I gave up the reigns months ago so yeah...take it for what it's worth.

-Ink

 

[threesets]

Ye I remember the days of being one of the four "green" members

 

[Dorigon]

In all honesty, what's even the point of putting so much work in to titles? Is it in the hopes that they will attract and sustain increased traffic? Now, donors getting a fancy color definitely makes sense, but other designations are largely frivolous.