Thoughts about the F2P bracket

allahkazam said:
if you think i'm kidding you are mistaken. you whine about 24s and yet a f2p 19 is severely gimped and still ruining a bracket. i guess it's ok for trials to ruin a bracket, but paying players should have to conform to what trials want.
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It's ok for both to ruin both brackets, because Blizzard can't sit down 5 minutes and think about all this
 
allahkazam said:
if you think i'm kidding you are mistaken. you whine about 24s and yet a f2p 19 is severely gimped and still ruining a bracket. i guess it's ok for trials to ruin a bracket, but paying players should have to conform to what trials want.
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Umm, I never whined about anything



Besides, I don't even play in the 20's bracket so I don't really know what this all has to do with me.
 
Dont believe them you can be a useful addition to your team as a F2P lv 19.I easily top damage and KBs and I always go for enemy FCs when they appear on the map.Never got complaints about my performance from other 19s(usually I get something along the lines: Is that a F2P char? Cool :)).



Their problem is that they hate to lose against a F2P player(what a shame haha) because that clearly shows that good gear with the best enchants is not everything.



edit: probably being a FC as F2P is not a good idea(you can reach max 1500-1600 HP unbuffed) but you can be a fine healer or damage dealer just roll a good class



edit2:F2P players in the 19 bracket are good for paid twinks too.Why?You get into games more often,you wont see the same old faces in every game and with your enchants you got a slight advantage.If they bother you or you dont want them in your team play with a premade, problem solved
 
random1 said:
Dont believe them you can be a useful addition to your team as a F2P lv 19.I easily top damage and KBs and I always go for enemy FCs when they appear on the map.Never got complaints about my performance from other 19s(usually I get something along the lines: Is that a F2P char? Cool :)).



Their problem is that they hate to lose against a F2P player(what a shame haha) because that clearly shows that good gear with the best enchants is not everything.



edit: probably being a FC as F2P is not a good idea(you can reach max 1500-1600 HP unbuffed) but you can be a fine healer or damage dealer just roll a good class
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I never got any complains against my f2p 19 druid as well, and I'm far from having BiS, I'm not even enchanted yet.
 
if you easily top damage and kbs it speaks volumes about the state of the 19 bracket. it's full of players not even geared to be queueing xp off. i can guarantee that unless you play a hunter and have a pocket healer healing you all the time you won't be doing either of those things.



and slight advantage? it's like 200 AP on something like a rogue and a ton of SP on a caster. you are useless and dead weight.



but ok impose your non paying self in my bracket and then complain to the high heavens about p2p 24s. it's ok. everyone can see your hypocrisy.
 
Hardc0re said:
I never got any complains against my f2p 19 druid as well, and I'm far from having BiS, I'm not even enchanted yet.
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most people are really too nice to tell you to level up. the only reason i'm saying it is how much whining and complaining that goes on with 24s and yet people think gimped 900 hp f2p 19s are ok. they aren't.
 
allahkazam said:
most people are really too nice to tell you to level up. the only reason i'm saying it is how much whining and complaining that goes on with 24s and yet people think gimped 900 hp f2p 19s are ok. they aren't.
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lol no.

If there's one think I learned from playing 4+ years of wow, it's that most people are NOT nice. If I played bad on top of not having gear, I would get a spam of "**** off noob", "get outta my bracket" and such.

But since I keep CCing melees, harrasing the opposing FC and healing our FC, all while that dying just a little, I guess ppl are happy with my participation.



And 900 hp is only temporary since we can obtain fishing hat, AGM, and all BoAs that aren't the cape and the headgear. It takes loads of time, but I'll get them eventually.

HP/gear will be on point with most twinks, only the enchants will be worse. And I make that up with my skill.



As I already said in another thread, of course there are limitations. Don't spect do be a main FC, you have a reduced ammount of classes/specs to choose, but it's viable. Way more viable than 20s vs 24s.
 
hardcore i could one shot you on my 19 rogue thats why people dont want f2ps in our bracket. you think real 19 twinks want games where the outcome is decided by who has the most p2p players? and yes the exact same problem is happening in the 20-24 bracket except that 24s dont gimp a team they carry it.

roll a 10-14 bracket f2p that would be more balanced due to boas stats scaling better at low levels and the 10-14 bracket would kill for pops.
 
The biggest problem is the lack of minor speed enchant(I really miss that 1) and the bit lower HP pool.If you play a rogue or a hunter you can kill other players within seconds so having a bit lower AP is not noticable at all.



The truth is that if I would pay for the game(not worth a penny since BC unless you are 1 of those PvE freaks) you wouldnt see me twinking.I played like 4 years long but I never made a twink.The only part of the game I missed was WSG and AB and now I can play them without paying and you can think whatever you want but I dont feel like "weak" or "gimped".I am having fun and thats all what matters
 
allahkazam said:
most people are really too nice to tell you to level up. the only reason i'm saying it is how much whining and complaining that goes on with 24s and yet people think gimped 900 hp f2p 19s are ok. they aren't.
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1400-600(depends on which class you roll) unbuffed HP as F2P is easily doable
 
Sàxxon said:
hardcore i could one shot you on my 19 rogue thats why people dont want f2ps in our bracket. you think real 19 twinks want games where the outcome is decided by who has the most p2p players? and yes the exact same problem is happening in the 20-24 bracket except that 24s dont gimp a team they carry it.

roll a 10-14 bracket f2p that would be more balanced due to boas stats scaling better at low levels and the 10-14 bracket would kill for pops.
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Only class that could kill me and lettimg me without chance to react was Hunters. I was not getting 1-shotted by rogues, and I could kite them after the opener and heal myself. Maybe I never faced you, but I'm facing lots of full BoA Rogues... And after I get those BoAs/enchants I'll have about 1500 HP wich is quite good for a non-FC char.

Even you would rather preffer me i the 19s instead of a 2500 HP Paladin that keyboard-turns. And we all know 90% of Twinks are not skilled. And the ones that call themselves skilled say it so because they have a bind to focus kick or wathever.
 
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